Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
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Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
Mrs Giant is going for an interview for a new job. It looks like the employer is not going to provided much in the way of benefits. Being that her current job has a pretty good rance of medical, dental and optical benefits, how much does she need to get in additional salary to be as well off.
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
Mrs Giant is going for an interview for a new job. It looks like the employer is not going to provided much in the way of benefits. Being that her current job has a pretty good rance of medical, dental and optical benefits, how much does she need to get in additional salary to be as well off.
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
Medical benefits in the US are not taxed whilst you have to buy individual cover out of post tax dollars.
I think the average cost in the US was $13,000 per year but that includes a big range.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
Mrs Giant is going for an interview for a new job. It looks like the employer is not going to provided much in the way of benefits. Being that her current job has a pretty good rance of medical, dental and optical benefits, how much does she need to get in additional salary to be as well off.
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
But if you wanted to pay similar cover on the open market, it would cost considerably more.
Can't your wife go on your insurance though?
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
The situation may be changing - from what President Bush said in his State of the Union address.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-plan-qa_x.htm
But it may never happen. That makes it difficult when you have to plan a job change and figure out the health insurance benefits.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
Mrs Giant is going for an interview for a new job. It looks like the employer is not going to provided much in the way of benefits. Being that her current job has a pretty good rance of medical, dental and optical benefits, how much does she need to get in additional salary to be as well off.
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
I came up with a figure of 12 x $850 a month (around 10k per annum) for family of three. That sounds a lot. Is that roughly what people on this list are paying?
And as some have said, what is paid through a group policy is not necessarily the same as individual. And dental and optical would generally be extra. IMO perhaps not necessary, unless you think someone is likely to incur significant expenses there.
An insurance broker should be able to give you some quotes from different companies. It varies so much depending upon your ages and health.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
About $630 (employer+employee) for two people for me. Plus ~$40 for dental. Given that the premiums have a habit of going up by double digit %s some years, and your salary won't, I'd argue for signficantly more.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
If you are with a group, they have to cover any medical conditions you might have. If you get individual insurance, they can probably drop you. And then the real problem begins.
If you go to a new job with health cover, and IF you have had continuous cover with a group, pre-existing conditions must be covered immediately.
Individual insurance has no such requirements.
If you go with a new group then, and haven't been with a group for some time period (90 days?) I am not sure that they will have to cover pre-existing conditions. EDIT - won't have to comver them IMMEDIATELY
I might not be totally correct, check up on that information, but I think so.
Last edited by Tracym; Mar 23rd 2007 at 2:21 am.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
Usually employer-paid insurance covers you for most pre-existings regardless of history, but you are right about individual cover - you can get crapped on pretty badly.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
I'll have to take a look for it - it talks about 'creditable coverage' - which by the way, the NHS is included. So for someone coming over and working, it wouldn't be a problem.
I'll take a look and try to find what I'm talking about.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I'll have to read it again when I am more awake and less mellow, but I might be wrong, they might include individual insurace and 'creditable'. But I do know individual can get $$$ or impossible with medical problems.
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Well here it is (I think). I hope you are fluent in reading Swahili.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I'll have to read it again when I am more awake and less mellow, but I might be wrong, they might include individual insurace and 'creditable'. But I do know individual can get $$$ or impossible with medical problems.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I'll have to read it again when I am more awake and less mellow, but I might be wrong, they might include individual insurace and 'creditable'. But I do know individual can get $$$ or impossible with medical problems.
All I know is that my employer has you fully covered including pre-existings from the day you walk in the job. Other employers give you no coverage at all for an initial period. Don't know the practical effect of the pre-existing exclusions allowed under law.
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Re: Changing jobs - how much are insurance benefits worth?
What a mess. At first glance it looks like a convenient way to force people to pay for overpriced COBRA coverage between jobs, but I didn't bother reading the details.
All I know is that my employer has you fully covered including pre-existings from the day you walk in the job. Other employers give you no coverage at all for an initial period. Don't know the practical effect of the pre-existing exclusions allowed under law.
All I know is that my employer has you fully covered including pre-existings from the day you walk in the job. Other employers give you no coverage at all for an initial period. Don't know the practical effect of the pre-existing exclusions allowed under law.
What they are doing (I think) is basically rewarding people for being 'responsible' and keeping continuous coverage, by forcing insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions. I have known people in the past who simply could not change jobs, because of a pre-existing condition.
It also limits the time for pre-existing conditions - if you weren't treated, etc. for it within 6 months, it doesn't exist. So they can't exclude old things.
On thing I am very curious about... the NHS counts as creditable coverage. Now, I believe (tell me if I'm wrong) you are entitled to use the NHS simply by being a British citizen. Being in the US doesn't cancel that - you could return to the UK on the next plane and the NHS will treat you. So... if even if a UK citizen didn't have any other cover, would this force the insurance company to cover everything from day one?
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On thing I am very curious about... the NHS counts as creditable coverage. Now, I believe (tell me if I'm wrong) you are entitled to use the NHS simply by being a British citizen. Being in the US doesn't cancel that - you could return to the UK on the next plane and the NHS will treat you. So... if even if a UK citizen didn't have any other cover, would this force the insurance company to cover everything from day one?