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Old Feb 26th 2007, 3:07 am
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Economy of scale is a powerful thing.

While you are at it, you might want to look at this site:

kbb.com

Kelly Blue Book, which gives the used car values of cars in different parts of the USA. Good for buying (or planning depreciation).
KBB isn't worth a toss.
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KBB isn't worth a toss.
the only book worth anything is a wholesale book...and they aren't right as often as they should be. We use the Canadian Black Book..and often we disagree with that.
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Is it common for the same model to be more than double the US price with less features, never having actually bought a car in the UK?
Actually used SUV's in the UK may be cheaper than used SUV's in the USA... on account of gas (petrol) prices being soo high in the UK, that SUV owners are dumping them like crazy ;-)

That's a cue someone in the UK to tell us what the current price of petrol is ;-)
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Actually used SUV's in the UK may be cheaper than used SUV's in the USA... on account of gas (petrol) prices being soo high in the UK, that SUV owners are dumping them like crazy ;-)

That's a cue someone in the UK to tell us what the current price of petrol is ;-)
84.6p per litre... 95 .. 86.2 p.l super......... 88.9p for diesel on average.and no doubt some will have seen that in the south east an additive(silicone) has caused problems with fuel censors and is costing people £1000 to rectify.Who'se going to pay, has not been decided yet?
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84.6p per litre... 95 .. 86.2 p.l super......... 88.9p for diesel on average.
OK, so £0.85 per litre, about 4 litres to the gallon, exchange rate of about $2 to the £... er, um... so you're paying the equilivant of about US$6.50 per US gallon?

In Sacramento at the moment, we are paying about US$2.80 per US gallon. And here is one of the more expensive parts of the country.

And, without getting into a pet rant, I just want to point out that (for the average person) how much you pay must pay for petrol directly affects what you think of as fuel-efficient.... which is why a lot of Americans would consider 25 mpg as "good".

and no doubt some will have seen that in the south east an additive(silicone) has caused problems with fuel censors and is costing people £1000 to rectify.Who'se going to pay, has not been decided yet?
ah! that's what that's about.... I read somethign about an motor insurance company letting people claim the costs (of fixing it) back.
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OK, so £0.85 per litre, about 4 litres to the gallon, exchange rate of about $2 to the £... er, um... so you're paying the equilivant of about US$6.50 per US gallon?

In Sacramento at the moment, we are paying about US$2.80 per US gallon. And here is one of the more expensive parts of the country.

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US gallon is smaller than a UK gallon...and don't forget, car insurance is more expensive over here, and taxes all add up to about the same...it ain't cheaper running a car in the US, it's about the same.
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I swore I would never do it, but I now have a......mmm, trying to say it...minivan
Kia were having a special on the Sedona, and we paid around $16,000 for it. When I looked on the Kia UK site, the same vehicle was 24,000 quid with a smaller engine, less features etc.
Is it common for the same model to be more than double the US price with less features, never having actually bought a car in the UK?

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Seemed high to me knowing what we just paid for Mum's new Honda so I checked. Don't know where you're getting your numbers from but the price of the Sedona on the Kia UK site, and you're stupid if you pay that, ranges from 15k to 21k

*shrug*

Having done a lot of price comparison over recent months/years I have come to expect most ordinary cars to be the same or slighty more in dollars than they are in pounds.
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Having done a lot of price comparison over recent months/years I have come to expect most ordinary cars to be the same or slighty more in dollars than they are in pounds.
Such as ??????????
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This is a tiny bit off subject, but I was thinking that the older used car prices in the UK are WAY cheaper than for comparable cars in the US. This is not taking into account the exchange rate, but rather an individual's own purchasing power. When I was there, I saw lots of used cars for sale. From what I saw, you can buy a small hatchback kind of car (I don't know what brand, or if it even matters) for 500 pounds or even less. This car would have low mileage, no body damage, and be better overall shape than a comparable US car because it is required to have a road-worthiness inspection. In the US, for 500 dollars, you would not get a car that ran down the road. For 1000 dollars, you might get a car with 150,000 miles, minor body damage and/or rust (michigan winters), a window that doesn't roll down, perhaps a burned out taillight, and almost certainly a host of engine problems just waiting to make themselves known. I've paid cash for all my cars, so I know this to be true. lol

So why is this? Does anyone know?
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http://www.chrysler.com/08town_count...P=AFC-Autoshow

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This is a tiny bit off subject, but I was thinking that the older used car prices in the UK are WAY cheaper than for comparable cars in the US. This is not taking into account the exchange rate, but rather an individual's own purchasing power. When I was there, I saw lots of used cars for sale. From what I saw, you can buy a small hatchback kind of car (I don't know what brand, or if it even matters) for 500 pounds or even less. This car would have low mileage, no body damage, and be better overall shape than a comparable US car because it is required to have a road-worthiness inspection. In the US, for 500 dollars, you would not get a car that ran down the road. For 1000 dollars, you might get a car with 150,000 miles, minor body damage and/or rust (michigan winters), a window that doesn't roll down, perhaps a burned out taillight, and almost certainly a host of engine problems just waiting to make themselves known. I've paid cash for all my cars, so I know this to be true. lol

So why is this? Does anyone know?
Depends on where you live and the market...up in Maine, Saabs are a dime a dozen and you could easily pick up a 3-4 year old Saab 95 with 65K on the clock fully loaded for around $12K for a manual, a couple more for auto...try finding that around here and you'll be laughed at.
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This is a tiny bit off subject, but I was thinking that the older used car prices in the UK are WAY cheaper than for comparable cars in the US. This is not taking into account the exchange rate, but rather an individual's own purchasing power. When I was there, I saw lots of used cars for sale. From what I saw, you can buy a small hatchback kind of car (I don't know what brand, or if it even matters) for 500 pounds or even less. This car would have low mileage, no body damage, and be better overall shape than a comparable US car because it is required to have a road-worthiness inspection. In the US, for 500 dollars, you would not get a car that ran down the road. For 1000 dollars, you might get a car with 150,000 miles, minor body damage and/or rust (michigan winters), a window that doesn't roll down, perhaps a burned out taillight, and almost certainly a host of engine problems just waiting to make themselves known. I've paid cash for all my cars, so I know this to be true. lol

So why is this? Does anyone know?

Depends where you are - texas for example where there is no salt the cars tend to fare better body wise etc. For $1000 you can probably pick up the same deal as for 500 quid back in blighty - you just need to look around, cos trust me if you only spend 500 its not going to be trouble free motoring! There is a lot of luck involved!

I dont agree with the view that motoring costs are about the same in both countries - yes insurance is slightly higher but once you get the history this is marginal - most cars are half the price etc. This is considering the FX difference though - granted if you compare to cost of living indexes and god knows what then it probably is the same....and everyone's circumstances are different.
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Such as ??????????
Honda CR-V starts at £18,800 and $21,000

Golf GTI £20,000 and $22,000

BMW 3 series £20,700 and $32,400

Often around 4-5,000 more in dollars than pounds, these are just an example of the range on common vehicles.

Don't know what sales taxes may be added in different parts of the US. Prices are inclusive of VAT.

Upshot being, for most people that equates to a similar cost.
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Honda CR-V starts at £18,800 and $21,000

Golf GTI £20,000 and $22,000

BMW 3 series £20,700 and $32,400

Often around 4-5,000 more in dollars than pounds, these are just an example of the range on common vehicles.

Don't know what sales taxes may be added in different parts of the US. Prices are inclusive of VAT.

Upshot being, for most people that equates to a similar cost.


Why do you think there is such a difference in price? Have you read anything on this subject?
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Why do you think there is such a difference in price? Have you read anything on this subject?


I looked at prices. Cars do not cost more than twice as much, even considering a 2:1 largely irrelevant exchange rate.
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