Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
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Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
We've been living in the US for a month and the completion of our house sale in the UK took place about two weeks ago. We're getting ready to transfer the money over. A couple of questions:
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
Presumably you have lived in the house for 2 years in the last 5 - have you taken into account that at least some of the gain (if not all of it) may be exempt?
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Exclusion from capital gains for sale of primary residence ($500,000 filing married filing jointly or $250,000 for married filing separately or single).
Publication 523 (2013), Selling Your Home
Publication 523 (2013), Selling Your Home
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
We've been living in the US for a month and the completion of our house sale in the UK took place about two weeks ago. We're getting ready to transfer the money over. A couple of questions:
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
As others have said if you are a US tax resident you get significant tax free capital gains allowances on the sale of your principal residence. Also if you will be filing as a non-resident alien for 2014 there won't be any US tax on the sale of your overseas home.
Last edited by nun; Dec 1st 2014 at 4:31 am.
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
We've been living in the US for a month and the completion of our house sale in the UK took place about two weeks ago. We're getting ready to transfer the money over. A couple of questions:
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
--Does all of the equity we had in our house (including whatever increase in value we realized between when we purchased and when we sold it) need to go back into another property in order to avoid paying CG tax?
--Anyone have any idea how long we have to reinvest that money in a property (as we look around at houses) before becoming subject to CG tax?
Thanks!
You may want to consult with a CPA or Tax Attorney -- your question is not posed precisely right. As a general rule, the amount of "equity" converted to cash is NOT the way to figure out taxable gain. One needs to determine the "basis" of the acquisition price [usually the purchase price] and compute the profit. These rules can sometimes be fiendishly complicated.
BTW, as posed, the question implies that you think the sales proceeds are not taxable if they are not repatriated to the US. I think that would be a fallacy.
Last edited by S Folinsky; Dec 2nd 2014 at 3:45 pm. Reason: Oops, "CG" is capital gains
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
yes Mr F is right - they will make any calcs based on the cost of the house (CONVERTED TO DOLLARS at time of purchase) vs the sale price (CONVERTED TO DOLLARS at the time of the sale). The exchange rate can work for or against you. For us- it went the WRONG way and we left the sale too late and have a hefty tax bill to pay.
Sounds like you haven't left it to late BUT get help in calculating what you may own if anything to be sure/safe.
Sounds like you haven't left it to late BUT get help in calculating what you may own if anything to be sure/safe.
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I'm not in the habit of giving much in the way of advice here other than "it is a good idea to get professional advice." That said, I would recommend making sure that the funds from the sale are not spent until the capital gain tax [if any] is computed. [Also, some STATES also have capital gains taxes]. One of the worst possible scenarios is owing tax and not having the money to pay it.
If one has the money to pay the tax, then it is quite annoying, but the tax authorities are not on your back.
If one has the money to pay the tax, then it is quite annoying, but the tax authorities are not on your back.
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The OP is using UK terminology and ideas for the way a real estate gain might be taxed. The US tax status for the OP on their 2014 1040 is key here. Will they be an NRA and file a 1040NR or resident and filling a 1040? So we need to know their visa/residency status.
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I'd like to insert another note of caution - it's not relevant in the OP's case but just in case you're coming from a country other than the UK (like France).
Check on the CGT rules for the country in which you are selling your "primary residence". France changed the rules this year so that you have to sell within 1 year of leaving if you wish to claim it as your primary residence and you can only do this once.
Check on the CGT rules for the country in which you are selling your "primary residence". France changed the rules this year so that you have to sell within 1 year of leaving if you wish to claim it as your primary residence and you can only do this once.
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
Sorry for the confusion. To clarify, I am a USC and husband resident alien. We'll be filing jointly for 2014. So just to recap, this was our primary residence and its sale was completed within a month of us leaving the UK and establishing US residence. The profit we made on the sale does not exceed $500,000. From what I've understood then, we are not liable for any capital gains tax.
I think I've confused this with another property tax issue...I remember hearing about someone who sold a rental property in the US and did not reinvest the money in another property. They were hit with a big tax. So this won't happen to us if the proceeds from the sale of our UK property are sitting in a bank account for a little while while we look for a house here?
Sorry for the cluelessness...hence the questions !
I think I've confused this with another property tax issue...I remember hearing about someone who sold a rental property in the US and did not reinvest the money in another property. They were hit with a big tax. So this won't happen to us if the proceeds from the sale of our UK property are sitting in a bank account for a little while while we look for a house here?
Sorry for the cluelessness...hence the questions !
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
Sorry for the confusion. To clarify, I am a USC and husband resident alien. We'll be filing jointly for 2014. So just to recap, this was our primary residence and its sale was completed within a month of us leaving the UK and establishing US residence. The profit we made on the sale does not exceed $500,000. From what I've understood then, we are not liable for any capital gains tax.
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There should be no tax to pay - but you do still have to declare the sale to the IRS and do the sums to show that there is no tax to pay. I can't remember the form number, but there is one....
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
Publication 523 (2013), Selling Your Home
Do not report the 2013 sale of your main home on your tax return unless:
You have a gain and do not qualify to exclude all of it,
You have a gain and choose not to exclude it, or
You received Form 1099-S.
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
I think I've confused this with another property tax issue...I remember hearing about someone who sold a rental property in the US and did not reinvest the money in another property. They were hit with a big tax. So this won't happen to us if the proceeds from the sale of our UK property are sitting in a bank account for a little while while we look for a house here?
To qualify as a Section 1031 exchange, a deferred exchange must be distinguished from the case of a taxpayer simply selling one property and using the proceeds to purchase another property (which is a taxable transaction). Rather, in a deferred exchange, the disposition of the relinquished property and acquisition of the replacement property must be mutually dependent parts of an integrated transaction constituting an exchange of property. Taxpayers engaging in deferred exchanges generally use exchange facilitators under exchange agreements pursuant to rules provided in the Income Tax Regulations.
Like-Kind Exchanges Under IRC Code Section 1031
Also someone can't exchange a rental property for a primary residence that he/she plans to live in.
In your case, you don't have any tax issues due to the exclusion for capital gains on the sale of a primary residence.
Last edited by Michael; Dec 4th 2014 at 5:13 am.
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Re: Capital gains tax and sale of UK property
I'm not advocating this, but I know of plenty of people that sold their UK property shortly after moving to the US and never declared it anywhere.......