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Old May 12th 2007, 3:53 pm
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I visited a Centennial mobile 'phone shop and was told that, as a foreigner, I could only have a pre-paid (pay as you go) mobile 'phone. The shop manager claimed that it was government regulation that prevented him from selling a contract to a foreigner.

Essentially, the stumbling block was lack of social security number.

Is this right? It seems bizarre. Imagine the situation reversed at a Vodafone shop in UK... "Sorry, you're an American, so you can't be trusted to have a contact 'phone because you don't have a National Insurance number."

If even one of you have a contract mobile 'phone then it can't be correct. Who is friendlier than Centennial?

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Default Re: can't have a contract mobile 'phone ? ! ?

I got a contract phone from verizon when I first moved here 5 years ago. No SSN, no credit record: had to pay a $400 deposit which I got back after a year - with interest!!!!!!!!!!!
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I always take my legal advice off shop managers. They're an excellent source of info.

However, you will find it difficult to get a contract phone without a SSN....but not impossible. Find out where our undocumented friends get theirs from and you've got it sussed. The market's too big to ignore them.
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Originally Posted by daisy
I got a contract phone from verizon when I first moved here 5 years ago. No SSN, no credit record: had to pay a $400 deposit which I got back after a year - with interest!!!!!!!!!!!
We tried to get my husband a phone when we were over visiting (so we could start building a credit history for him)

They told us that he couldn't get one without a Social Security number because they would have to do a credit check on him. They did say that he could put a large deposit ( I think it was 500 ) We decided to wait though.

I also couldn't add him to my american bank account even though we were married he did not have a SS number and they told me not until he gets one.

but, when i moved to the UK, I got a bank acct, mobile phone, car insurance all in one day - No Problems!

Go figure!
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Originally Posted by hemichrysler
Is this right? It seems bizarre. Imagine the situation reversed at a Vodafone shop in UK... "Sorry, you're an American, so you can't be trusted to have a contact 'phone because you don't have a National Insurance number."
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Uhh...that is the case, basically. You can't get a UK contract mobile until you have UK bank account, and getting one of those basically requires you as a foreigner to jump through a slew of hoops, including getting a NIN.
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Originally Posted by SeeYouLaterAligator
We tried to get my husband a phone when we were over visiting (so we could start building a credit history for him)

They told us that he couldn't get one without a Social Security number because they would have to do a credit check on him. They did say that he could put a large deposit ( I think it was 500 ) We decided to wait though.

I also couldn't add him to my american bank account even though we were married he did not have a SS number and they told me not until he gets one.

but, when i moved to the UK, I got a bank acct, mobile phone, car insurance all in one day - No Problems!

Go figure!
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You can open a US bank account without a SSN no problem
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Default Re: can't have a contract mobile 'phone ? ! ?

Five years ago I visited most of the big names who told us we would have to pay a hefty deposit. In the end I went to Radioshack and had no problem getting a cell phone with Sprint - no deposit or SS number required. It wasn't the best service but after our contract ran out and I had my SS number I changed to T-Mobile. This was before pay as you go was available in our area of NJ.
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Originally Posted by Big D
You can open a US bank account without a SSN no problem

Could use tell me what bank you used then? My bank that I have dealt with since I was a child (but its a community bank, local) wouldn't allow me to add my husband when we got married because of the whole No SS number.

Looks like it time to change banks. Thanks

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Bank of America - might be different adding rather than opening - but most of the big ones are the same - we opened before we had SSN - but think of all those ex pats in Florida who have accounts etc too
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when we got here they wanted $1000 per line deposit for mobiles as no credit record, with 5 phones needed we got pay as you go, stupid stupid situation IMHO.
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A big deposit if you have no credit history is pretty common - expect it from the gas, water and leccy people too. I think Verizon wanted a $400 deposit from me. I ended up with pay as you go from T-mobile. Decent reception and I don't use the phone much anyway. I reckon I save when compared to the crazy prices charged for a monthly contract.
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Default Re: can't have a contract mobile 'phone ? ! ?

Originally Posted by gsnichol
A big deposit if you have no credit history is pretty common - expect it from the gas, water and leccy people too. I think Verizon wanted a $400 deposit from me. I ended up with pay as you go from T-mobile. Decent reception and I don't use the phone much anyway. I reckon I save when compared to the crazy prices charged for a monthly contract.
I went with PAYG Virgin. I decided that, if US cellphone providers do not want my business for lack of a SSN, I'd rather go with a British company. Since I rarely use my cellphone - and mostly when roaming - I stuck with Virgin after I finally obtained that stupid number.
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Originally Posted by hemichrysler
I visited a Centennial mobile 'phone shop and was told that, as a foreigner, I could only have a pre-paid (pay as you go) mobile 'phone. The shop manager claimed that it was government regulation that prevented him from selling a contract to a foreigner.

Essentially, the stumbling block was lack of social security number.

Is this right? It seems bizarre. Imagine the situation reversed at a Vodafone shop in UK... "Sorry, you're an American, so you can't be trusted to have a contact 'phone because you don't have a National Insurance number."

If even one of you have a contract mobile 'phone then it can't be correct. Who is friendlier than Centennial?

RS
If you can add him to your credit card - often they will automatically charge the phone to the credit card rather than having the large deposit.
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Originally Posted by gsnichol
A big deposit if you have no credit history is pretty common - expect it from the gas, water and leccy people too. I think Verizon wanted a $400 deposit from me. I ended up with pay as you go from T-mobile. Decent reception and I don't use the phone much anyway. I reckon I save when compared to the crazy prices charged for a monthly contract.
Indeed - common the world over too not just here in the US
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Default Re: can't have a contract mobile 'phone ? ! ?

There was a very good thread recently about the need for an SSN and a bank account. If you are an American, then basically, yes, you need an SSN as part of the Patriot Act's anti-money laundering provisions. If you are a foreigner, there are a bunch of different procedures, but in essence, you don't necessarily need a SSN, you just have to show some sort of identification that proves who you are (what qualifies is often done on a bank-by-bank basis).

Do a google search and you can find out more information on this and print out a copy because chances are most bank tellers don't know the subtle nuances that allow for different procedures for non-Americans.
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