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Stiffers11 Apr 30th 2011 4:50 pm

Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 
I'm soon going to be moving to the USA with my family and want to carry on with higher education over there!

At the moment I have 9 GCSE's in the UK would this be enough to gain a high school diploma or would I need to do anything else!?

Any info would be much appreciated :)

Bob Apr 30th 2011 5:23 pm

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 
You graduate highschool at 18, so if you aren't 18 you'd still have to go to school.

Bring your transcripts with you though as it'll help integrating into the school system...make bugger all difference for uni requirements though as there's usually more to just having a highschool diploma, but there are plenty of threads covering AP, SAT's and all that guff.

Welcome to BE though :)

Englishman43 May 1st 2011 12:32 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by Stiffers11 (Post 9334909)
I'm soon going to be moving to the USA with my family and want to carry on with higher education over there!

At the moment I have 9 GCSE's in the UK would this be enough to gain a high school diploma or would I need to do anything else!?

Any info would be much appreciated :)

You could also take the GED ( for people that dropped out of high school but then later decided they wanted to return to higher education ) then take classes at a Community College that will allow you to transfer to a Uni when you have enough credits.

Might be wrong but I'd imagine with 9 GCSE's you wouldn't fine it too hard. I quit school early in the UK ( in the '80's ) so took my GED out here a few years ago so I could take some classes at C/C.

Not sure how it works under 18 mind you.

avanutria May 1st 2011 2:26 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 
I don't think it's likely that GCSE's (O Levels) would translate to a high school degree. A Levels, possibly. How old are you?

Have a look at practice GED exam questions online and see how comfortable you are with them. If you are over 18 and they look fine, take the GED and you're done with high school. If you are either under 18 or are uncomfortable with the level of knowledge required on the GED exam, then you should plan on enrolling in your local high school and I would recommend contacting the schools in your new area.

Assuming that there are no visa issues to sort out, of course. We get a lot of people here who think they are moving to the US but then discover there is no visa available for them to do so.

AmerLisa May 1st 2011 2:39 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 9334928)
You graduate highschool at 18, so if you aren't 18 you'd still have to go to school.

Bring your transcripts with you though as it'll help integrating into the school system...make bugger all difference for uni requirements though as there's usually more to just having a highschool diploma, but there are plenty of threads covering AP, SAT's and all that guff.

Welcome to BE though :)

That isn't true, Bob. My youngest daughter will actually be 17 when she graduates. It really depends on meeting the graduation requirements and age has nothing to do with it.

AmerLisa May 1st 2011 2:42 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by Englishman43 (Post 9335327)
You could also take the GED ( for people that dropped out of high school but then later decided they wanted to return to higher education ) then take classes at a Community College that will allow you to transfer to a Uni when you have enough credits.

Might be wrong but I'd imagine with 9 GCSE's you wouldn't fine it too hard. I quit school early in the UK ( in the '80's ) so took my GED out here a few years ago so I could take some classes at C/C.

Not sure how it works under 18 mind you.

I wouldn't take a GED and community college if I had passed 9 GCSEs. Please check with your school district when you arrive. I think you'll find that if you've covered most of the subjects needed to graduate that a semester or two may all that may be required to gain a high school diploma.

JAJ May 1st 2011 2:46 am

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Originally Posted by Stiffers11 (Post 9334909)
I'm soon going to be moving to the USA with my family and want to carry on with higher education over there!

On what visa? ... if you're not a US citizen or permanent resident your options will be limited.

Englishman43 May 1st 2011 3:00 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by AmerLisa (Post 9335442)
I wouldn't take a GED and community college if I had passed 9 GCSEs. Please check with your school district when you arrive. I think you'll find that if you've covered most of the subjects needed to graduate that a semester or two may all that may be required to gain a high school diploma.

That would be ideal then straight to Uni ! I've had several friends that did A levels in the UK then came to the US to go to Uni and found it almost step backward the first year or so.

avanutria May 1st 2011 3:29 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by AmerLisa (Post 9335442)
I wouldn't take a GED and community college if I had passed 9 GCSEs. Please check with your school district when you arrive. I think you'll find that if you've covered most of the subjects needed to graduate that a semester or two may all that may be required to gain a high school diploma.

But GCSEs are O levels, right? They're nowhere near high enough to be equivalent to a high school diploma, let alone community college. (Or have I got GCSE and GCE backward again?)

A Levels are equivalent to US AP exams which are often taken in high school. O levels aren't even on the radar.

AmerLisa May 1st 2011 3:37 am

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Originally Posted by avanutria (Post 9335477)
But GCSEs are O levels, right? They're nowhere near high enough to be equivalent to a high school diploma, let alone community college. (Or have I got GCSE and GCE backward again?)

A Levels are equivalent to US AP exams which are often taken in high school. O levels aren't even on the radar.

I've always thought A Levels were equivalent to community college here, of course I may be wrong. The GCSEs in Math and English (for example) should (well I would think) give enough qualifications to fulfill a high school graduation requirement, in those respective subjects. However, I'm not a district administrator and this should be checked with the relevant school district.

avanutria May 1st 2011 5:06 am

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 
I used to work in admissions for a UK university, and I know we treated American AP exams as equivalent to British A-Levels. (AP exams are often given US college credit as well, depending on the score.) Since AP exams are (an optional) part of US high school I would consider A levels to be a minimum requirement for someone trying to have US high school equivalency. O Levels wouldn't be sufficient. If the OP has A Levels then depending on the college/university they might be able to go straight in, but I would definitely not expect that with O Levels. The O levels may well teach the same material but as far as I know they do not have the official recognition in the US to be considered equivalent to completing high school.

Unfortunately I no longer have access to the NARIC database of qualification equivalencies so I can't check on that. I second your recommendation to consult with the new local high school district for advice.

meauxna May 1st 2011 6:10 pm

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 
But regardless, let me know if I have this right, there is no document from the UK that one can present in the US as the equivalent of a US HS diploma, right? Isn't that the problem the Scottish guy was having? Doesn't really matter what his Scottish papers are, he has to take the GED for pedantical reasons?

Sue May 1st 2011 6:21 pm

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 9336482)
But regardless, let me know if I have this right, there is no document from the UK that one can present in the US as the equivalent of a US HS diploma, right? Isn't that the problem the Scottish guy was having? Doesn't really matter what his Scottish papers are, he has to take the GED for pedantical reasons?

We do get issued with a document that states the exams we have taken and the grade for each exam.

I used this to prove that I had graduated "high school" for the community college I attend and they accepted that, and the results of the placement test I took, to place me in college level classes.

I would suggest to OP that she try a Community College first, as funding your education here is going to be a huge cost. To obtain "in-state tuition you need to have lived in the state for at least a year prior to enrolling, and in some cases you have to also have a Green Card as well. (In my case I wanted to attend Community College whilst I was on a H4 and despite having lived in the state for over a year I did not quality for in-state tuition because I was not a permanent resident/citizen. Of course that was according the CC I wanted to attend, your mileage may vary)

Michael May 1st 2011 6:24 pm

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 9336482)
But regardless, let me know if I have this right, there is no document from the UK that one can present in the US as the equivalent of a US HS diploma, right? Isn't that the problem the Scottish guy was having? Doesn't really matter what his Scottish papers are, he has to take the GED for pedantical reasons?

When it comes to employment, some employers may require a US high school diploma or equivalency but US colleges may not if the person was educated outside the US. Otherwise foreign students would not be able to enroll in US colleges without first getting a GED and there is about a 1 million foreign students in US colleges.

Sally Redux May 1st 2011 7:01 pm

Re: Can anyone explain the equivalent of a high school diploma in the uk!?
 

Originally Posted by AmerLisa (Post 9335488)
I've always thought A Levels were equivalent to community college here, of course I may be wrong. The GCSEs in Math and English (for example) should (well I would think) give enough qualifications to fulfill a high school graduation requirement, in those respective subjects. However, I'm not a district administrator and this should be checked with the relevant school district.

Yes, my understanding is that high school graduation is a low level, much lower than A levels. You can leave school younger than 18 if you have fulfilled those requirements.


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