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dale dalton Sep 4th 2018 5:44 pm

Buying property in the US
 
I am interesting in buying a property in the USA, in Ohio. But I am a little confused about what the process entails once I have found a property. I know I need a title company. I am also need to pay Title fees, recording fees, Real Property Transfer Tax and Insurance. But I am not to clear in which the order these steps occur and also how to prove that I have ownership of the property. I have tried searching online, but I am going round in circles, as a lot of guides tend to be rather bare and skip over things.

Anyone got any guidance or advice they can share. Thanks!

ddsrph Sep 4th 2018 6:42 pm

Re: Buying property in the US
 
You might consider getting with a Real estate agent who will help find the property and handle the issues you describe. The fee for their service will be covered by splitting the sale fee with the listing agent. They will be very helpful in finding a property and advising on fair price.

mikelincs Sep 4th 2018 9:23 pm

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Originally Posted by dale dalton (Post 12558575)
I am interesting in buying a property in the USA, in Ohio. But I am a little confused about what the process entails once I have found a property. I know I need a title company. I am also need to pay Title fees, recording fees, Real Property Transfer Tax and Insurance. But I am not to clear in which the order these steps occur and also how to prove that I have ownership of the property. I have tried searching online, but I am going round in circles, as a lot of guides tend to be rather bare and skip over things.

Anyone got any guidance or advice they can share. Thanks!


Welcome to BE.

Are you a US citizen?, do you have a visa for the US? Houses are reasonably cheap in the US BUT property taxes etc may make owning one an expensive decision unless you can make use of it.

dale dalton Sep 5th 2018 7:51 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12558648)
Welcome to BE.

Are you a US citizen?, do you have a visa for the US? Houses are reasonably cheap in the US BUT property taxes etc may make owning one an expensive decision unless you can make use of it.

I am a UK Citizen with no visas for the US. I plan to rent out the property and have taken account the taxes.


Originally Posted by ddsrph (Post 12558597)
You might consider getting with a Real estate agent who will help find the property and handle the issues you describe. The fee for their service will be covered by splitting the sale fee with the listing agent. They will be very helpful in finding a property and advising on fair price.

I've already found a property and (provisionally) negotiated a price with the seller. So I was under the impression an agent wouldn't be of help, as they only want to sell their own properties.

tom169 Sep 5th 2018 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by dale dalton (Post 12558798)
I am a UK Citizen with no visas for the US. I plan to rent out the property and have taken account the taxes.



I've already found a property and (provisionally) negotiated a price with the seller. So I was under the impression an agent wouldn't be of help, as they only want to sell their own properties.

This is referred to as for sale by owner. In a typical real estate transaction the buyer has a realtor and the seller has a realtor. Each take a commission from the sale price.

In FSBO it will be likely that they don't want to pay a buyer's agent (realtor). In that case you may find it beneficial to. Someone is going to need to order appraisals, general inspections, termite inspections, radon inspections. Etc etc.

ddsrph Sep 5th 2018 11:22 am

Re: Buying property in the US
 

Originally Posted by dale dalton (Post 12558798)
I am a UK Citizen with no visas for the US. I plan to rent out the property and have taken account the taxes.



I've already found a property and (provisionally) negotiated a price with the seller. So I was under the impression an agent wouldn't be of help, as they only want to sell their own properties.

As a general rule agents don’t own properties. I recently sold a house in Tenn and everyone who came to look was with their agent. We had six people all with different agents look, three offers in 48 hrs and sold within 72 hours of listing. The listing agent represents my interest the other agents all from different realtor companies represented their prospective buyer at no cost to them.

dale dalton Sep 5th 2018 11:24 am

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@ddsrph thanks!


Originally Posted by tom169 (Post 12558884)
This is referred to as for sale by owner. In a typical real estate transaction the buyer has a realtor and the seller has a realtor. Each take a commission from the sale price.

In FSBO it will be likely that they don't want to pay a buyer's agent (realtor). In that case you may find it beneficial to. Someone is going to need to order appraisals, general inspections, termite inspections, radon inspections. Etc etc.

Is there a list of things I need to check, so if I hire a realtor, I can make sure they are doing everything. Thanks!

MidAtlantic Sep 5th 2018 11:31 am

Re: Buying property in the US
 

Originally Posted by dale dalton (Post 12558887)
@ddsrph thanks!



Is there a list of things I need to check, so if I hire a realtor, I can make sure they are doing everything. Thanks!

From the questions you asked in your original post, and this latest response, you undoubtedly need someone acting on your behalf. Are you sure you know what you are taking on? Having a rental property that far away from you is not something I would ever do.

ddsrph Sep 5th 2018 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by MidAtlantic (Post 12558889)
From the questions you asked in your original post, and this latest response, you undoubtedly need someone acting on your behalf. Are you sure you know what you are taking on? Having a rental property that far away from you is not something I would ever do.

My thoughts exactly. Unless he has plans to move here the risk far out weighs any potential benefit. Many renters are deadbeats and would like nothing more than to have a landlord 3000 miles away.

To OP
The main things to make sure happens:
Does the seller own the property without liens. This requires a title search and title insurance.
Condition of the property. A personal inspection and possibly a professional inspection to include termites and Radon.
The rest is basic paperwork that any lawyer or real estate agent can handle.
Before you spend any money for the above the first step is a signed acceptance of offer with stipulations to make it invalid if they are not met. A realtor has forms for this that they use everyday.

Rete Sep 5th 2018 12:34 pm

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When we bought our home in Mississippi, our real estate attorney handled all of that. They contracted for the title search, transfer, hired with our approval the house inspector, and all the fees were paid for at the closing. Since you are not taking a mortgage, sounds like you have a great need of a real estate attorney.

Frankly, the last thing I would do with my money is invest it in property in a country I have no rights to live in. Nor would I rent from an owner who lives outside of the US unless they have a very good leasing agent who will oversee the property in their stead.

Nutmegger Sep 5th 2018 1:26 pm

Re: Buying property in the US
 

Originally Posted by dale dalton (Post 12558798)
I am a UK Citizen with no visas for the US. I plan to rent out the property and have taken account the taxes.

I've already found a property and (provisionally) negotiated a price with the seller. So I was under the impression an agent wouldn't be of help, as they only want to sell their own properties.

You need a real estate attorney -- they handle closings on property purchases in the US and will be able to advise you on all the steps. How are you going to manage your property? Don't forget to factor in the cost of a management agent, yard maintenance, any local assessments (water? sewer? snow removal?) in addition to the property taxes. This is not going to be easy at long distance, in a jurisdiction with which you have no familiarity -- do you really think it is worth it?

Rete Sep 5th 2018 1:29 pm

Re: Buying property in the US
 
I feel the same way but for all we know, the OP could be planning on buying an apartment complex and will have an onsite manager and handyman to oversee the property. Wonder if it is in Florida's Orlando.

Nutmegger Sep 5th 2018 1:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Rete (Post 12558947)
I feel the same way but for all we know, the OP could be planning on buying an apartment complex and will have an onsite manager and handyman to oversee the property. Wonder if it is in Florida's Orlando.

He said Ohio, which seems a little weird to start with! There must be more to the story . . .

md95065 Sep 5th 2018 1:59 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12558648)
Houses are reasonably cheap in the US

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Houses are "reasonably cheap" in some parts of the US.

scrubbedexpat099 Sep 5th 2018 2:47 pm

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Real Estate Attorney, I used one when I bought without using a Realtor.


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