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Bush signs Schiavo legislation
#1
Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Okay I see from another thread that you're all familiar with this case, well lets step back a minute and instead of looking at Terri's unfortunate situation lets look at the bigger picture...how do you feel about the Senate..nay the President of the United States coming into your home and interfering...passing a law to do what he thinks is right, regardless of your own or your loved ones wishes?
a feud between families is one thing but U.S Government intervention is another...how do you feel about this?
a feud between families is one thing but U.S Government intervention is another...how do you feel about this?
#2
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
I don't believe its that simple....yes or no you're for it or not. I know that others will disagree, but I truly feel something had to be done for this case. Should it be done on a regular basis, well no. Does it have to be black and white in this circumstance....I don't know.....
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Sadly it is a quality of life issue & how much quality of life does the poor woman have ?
#4
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My problem with this and based on what I have read is that I cannot understand why the husband has not allowed any therapy therefore I cannot accept that their would be no improvement in the quality of life.
Secondly if he is such a caring person who has made another life with someone else (I am not passing judgement on that as it is his life) then if it was me I would make sure all the medical and other bills were paid up from the settlement and then let, as requested by them, her parents care for her for the rest of her life.
I am just not satisfied that all has been done that could have been done and if it has taken the Federal Government to get involved then so be it.
Secondly if he is such a caring person who has made another life with someone else (I am not passing judgement on that as it is his life) then if it was me I would make sure all the medical and other bills were paid up from the settlement and then let, as requested by them, her parents care for her for the rest of her life.
I am just not satisfied that all has been done that could have been done and if it has taken the Federal Government to get involved then so be it.
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
If the parents can look after her on their dime, then good for them. If however this is costing the taxpayers money to keep a women alive who will never recover from her terrible brain injuries, then it's time to pull the plug so to speak.
#6
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by Pimpbot
If the parents can look after her on their dime, then good for them. If however this is costing the taxpayers money to keep a women alive who will never recover from her terrible brain injuries, then it's time to pull the plug so to speak.
#7
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by UJ_99
I wonder how much the special congressional session cost us all? I'm sure all kinds of clerks, secretaries etc had to be called in for Congress to vote on this....
#8
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by tony126
My problem with this and based on what I have read is that I cannot understand why the husband has not allowed any therapy therefore I cannot accept that their would be no improvement in the quality of life.
Secondly if he is such a caring person who has made another life with someone else (I am not passing judgement on that as it is his life) then if it was me I would make sure all the medical and other bills were paid up from the settlement and then let, as requested by them, her parents care for her for the rest of her life.
I am just not satisfied that all has been done that could have been done and if it has taken the Federal Government to get involved then so be it.
Secondly if he is such a caring person who has made another life with someone else (I am not passing judgement on that as it is his life) then if it was me I would make sure all the medical and other bills were paid up from the settlement and then let, as requested by them, her parents care for her for the rest of her life.
I am just not satisfied that all has been done that could have been done and if it has taken the Federal Government to get involved then so be it.
ABC news uncovered a memo from GOP HQ telling Repubs to use this for political leverage for midterm elections.
Finally, if this is what Congress is prepared to do, what about this case?
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/3084934
The laws being used in this case were passed by Bush during his tenure as Gov, permitting hospitals to yank feeding tubes from patients with no hope of improvement, or of paying their bills.
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Sadly it is hard to look at this from a cold & rational stance, yes I think she should be allowed to die, but would I remove the feeding tube from the Memsahib, that is one descision I would never want to have to make.
#10
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Not to be completely cold and heartless here...but isn't it a major waste of tax money for bush to get involved when there is so much else that will affect far more people that could do with the time and money, like healthcare reform and the iraq situation?
#11
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
When there is no where else to go what would you do? No matter where you are you take to the highest level you can for a decision whether it is the Supreme Court or the Hague or whatever applies. As I said I am not confident in my own mind that evrything possible has been done for her. Why refuse her therapy in any form? The following is another point of view on this subject.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comme...00503160848.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/comme...00503160848.asp
#12
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by tony126
When there is no where else to go what would you do? No matter where you are you take to the highest level you can for a decision whether it is the Supreme Court
Plus, why this case, and not the one I linked to? As Barney Frank said, is Congress now going to have to consider ALL similar cases? That is what we have a judiciary for.
BTW - could you repost that link, as it doesn't work.
#13
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by UJ_99
That is the point - the Supreme Court has already weighed in on this. Congress has no right to be involving itself in this. As a taxpayer I'm pissed - they can convene hearings over Janet Jacksons boob, Steroids in Baseball and now this, but can't balance the budget or even attempt to tackle the deficit!! Congress should have enough to do.
Plus, why this case, and not the one I linked to? As Barney Frank said, is Congress now going to have to consider ALL similar cases? That is what we have a judiciary for.
BTW - could you repost that link, as it doesn't work.
Plus, why this case, and not the one I linked to? As Barney Frank said, is Congress now going to have to consider ALL similar cases? That is what we have a judiciary for.
BTW - could you repost that link, as it doesn't work.
http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0503160848.asp
#14
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by tony126
Why refuse her therapy in any form?
The guidelines influencing this decision, I have no idea.
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by Iginla
Correct me if I'm wrong but in many cases after extensive therapy (OT, physio, etc.) if the patient shows no sign of responding to the therapy then the therapists make a decision that the individual is unrehabable (sp?) and are discontinued from further therapy in order to free up time for others.
The guidelines influencing this decision, I have no idea.
The guidelines influencing this decision, I have no idea.