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Old Jul 3rd 2005, 4:30 pm
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Budweiser is nasty stuff at the best of times - a friend of mine has liver disease and has been told to avoid mass produced American beers (Budweiser, Coors, Miller, etc) because of the chemicals they use to accelerate the fermentation process. But now Budweiser has come out with this ... "beer" made with caffeine, and flavored with fruit syrups! Bleugh!
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Bud Light is the single worst alcholic drink i've ever tasted, with regular Budweiser being not too far behind. But then again as Eric Idle said, "American beer is like making love in a canoe, as they're both f***ing close to water"

I never get tired of that joke
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Budweiser is nasty stuff at the best of times - a friend of mine has liver disease and has been told to avoid mass produced American beers (Budweiser, Coors, Miller, etc) because of the chemicals they use to accelerate the fermentation process. But now Budweiser has come out with this ... "beer" made with caffeine, and flavored with fruit syrups! Bleugh!
I think people should stay away from mass produced American beers because they are shit, never mind the chemicals!. Bud has to be the worst beer in the history of beer. It also gives you that morning after feeling of a Colt 45 or some other cheap ass wino piss.
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The sad thing is if you, by some miracle,manage to get pissed you'll have so much caffine in your system that you won't be able to sleep it off. Imagine being awake all night with the room spinning waiting or your bed to come around.
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fruit flavoured beer is nothing new - there have been many different belgian fruit flavoured beers available in UK supermarkets for decades ..
 
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Is it urban myth or are American beers stronger in the UK than in the US? It all tastes like S**t to me...................
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Is it urban myth or are American beers stronger in the UK than in the US? It all tastes like S**t to me...................
Mostly myth - but it is apparently illegal to disclose the alcohol content of beer (which is why it never appears on the label - even of imported beers e.g. Heinekin), AND many states have a maximum strength that (draught) beers can be - which can be as little as 3%. I think that Florida is one of those states with a low permitted alcohol level for draught beers, which would then probably be where the (semi-)myth of American beers in Britain being stronger than in the US came from.

I'm not sure, but I think that some states also have a maximum permitted strength for canned/ bottle beers too, .... but then simultaneously permit the sale of "malt liquor", which is effectively beer that makes Tennants Super look like gnats piss!

Originally Posted by Brit'n'TX
fruit flavoured beer is nothing new - there have been many different belgian fruit flavoured beers available in UK supermarkets for decades ..
Even Belgian fruit beers are not exactly to my taste, but I'd concede that the Belgians know a thing or two about brewing beer, .... unlike the owners of Anheuser-Bush.

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Mostly myth - but it is apparently illegal to disclose the alcohol content of beer (which is why it never appears on the label - even of imported beers e.g. Heinekin), AND many states have a maximum strength that (draught) beers can be - which can be as little as 3%. I think that Florida is one of those states with a low permitted alcohol level for draught beers, which would then probably be where the (semi-)myth of American beers in Britain being stronger than in the US came from.

I'm not sure, but I think that some states also have a maximum permitted strength for canned/ bottle beers too, .... but then simultaneously permit the sale of "malt liquor", which is effectively beer that makes Tennants Super look like gnats piss!



Even Belgian fruit beers are not exactly to my taste, but I'd concede that the Belgians know a thing or two about brewing beer, .... unlike the owners of Anheuser-Bush.
yeah noticed that , it takes all the fun out of 'lets buy the strongest beer'....Odd considering their outlook on alchohol......
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but then simultaneously permit the sale of "malt liquor", which is effectively beer that makes Tennants Super look like gnats piss!
Ah canned porridge
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Default Re: Budweiser was nasty before, but this ....

Originally Posted by Pulaski
Mostly myth - but it is apparently illegal to disclose the alcohol content of beer (which is why it never appears on the label - even of imported beers e.g. Heinekin), AND many states have a maximum strength that (draught) beers can be - which can be as little as 3%. I think that Florida is one of those states with a low permitted alcohol level for draught beers, which would then probably be where the (semi-)myth of American beers in Britain being stronger than in the US came from.

I'm not sure, but I think that some states also have a maximum permitted strength for canned/ bottle beers too, .... but then simultaneously permit the sale of "malt liquor", which is effectively beer that makes Tennants Super look like gnats piss!


Even Belgian fruit beers are not exactly to my taste, but I'd concede that the Belgians know a thing or two about brewing beer, .... unlike the owners of Anheuser-Bush.
I always wondered why that was! Seems a bit irresponsible not to let us know what % of alcohol is in it, and what we have actually consumed in units if you ask me. I'm drinking Miller these days, in the pub I go to I get a pint and a coke for between $2 and $3.75 depending on who is on the bar - weird how the barman cuts you a deal over here??? You ever experienced that?

Anyway as to what I buy in American beers, it all tastes like horses urine to me so for my unexpected guests who just decide to bloody well drop in, I buy a lovely brew especially for them called Old Millwaukee about $3.50 for 6-pack - it's the cheapest thing in HEB (except for Bud) but it's a better beer than bud and well it's a full sized can versus a Bud bottle for about the same price. OM also tastes better. HEB do some mini-kegs of German lagers not bad at about $18 and some British beers as imports but they tend to be just under $3 per bottle (perhaps this price is not too bad actually since Ales like Belhaven or 'Wee Heavy' would certainly cost you that back in the UK!) As yet though the only Cider I've saw was Woodpecker, which would be all very well but I hate Woodpecker and much prefer Dry Blackthorn.

Still on a Brighter note I found a bunch of guys in Arlington, TX who are very into Home Brewing when I was at a festival last year. I used to do this myself so was very interested in what they were doing. They made all the traditional British and German beers. My Dad used to make the very same beers - using the real ingredients (hops etc) not just from some kit. My old Dad also makes a pretty good Brown Ale actually, you'd swear blind you were drinking Newcastle's best export. Let's just say I spent a long time at their tent sampling all they had on offer. Gives me hope that does, later when I have a bigger place and more room to brew - I'm going to brew beer again and maybe some wines using local produce.

Talking of which in the Texas Hill country last year I visited a few vineyards, inspired me to start making wine again. My family have been making wine for at least 4 generations most likely a lot longer (helps if one of your grandparents is of the Italian persuasion I suppose) ;-) My old Dad made very professional wines (in our last house which was larger - they have since down-sized to a smaller place) in just a little shed. A guy once asked him what the difference was between shop bought wine kits and using real fruits to make the must. He said you've answered your own question. Of course my Dad and other people who take wine making seriously would shake their heads, but I find the dedicated yeasts that are available today for particular wines are very good. If it says Sauterne on the packet guess what you are getting. Very clever product actually. I think it's ICI that makes those yeasts, maybe there are others also. Imagine that engineered yeasts! I don't have the dosh to do it but if I did I'd have a vineyard going. Texas like many other states is superb for cultivating the grape and other fruits suitable for wine making.

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..... so for my unexpected guests who just decide to bloody well drop in, I buy a lovely brew especially for them called Old Millwaukee ....
Can't you get Samuel Adams beers? .... They're brewed in Boston and is widely available (groceries and restaurants alike, including those that sell pretty much only Bud, Coors amd Miller), and at least as far south and west as Georgia and Tennessee that I know of; but the best bit is that actually taste like half-decent beer.

Sam Adams beers currently include an ale, a (darkish) larger, a cream stout, a light beer (apparently every brewer must brew one of those ), a hefeweizen, and a black lager (which is currently a favorite of mine), and numerous other seasonal and "brew master" beers - Pale Ale, Scotch Ale, October Fest, Double Bock, Summer Ale, etc.

Aside from Sam Adams beers, I am always on the look out for micro-brewery beers, which are surprisingly widely available. For example one brewery (And restaurant) here in NC is the Weeping Radish. The restaurant is well worth a visit if you are in the area (German style food, to complement the beers), but they distribute their beers fairly widely on the east coast - from NC up to New Jersey. I have also tried many other micro-brewery beers, and most are pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Mostly myth - but it is apparently illegal to disclose the alcohol content of beer (which is why it never appears on the label - even of imported beers e.g. Heinekin), AND many states have a maximum strength that (draught) beers can be - which can be as little as 3%. I think that Florida is one of those states with a low permitted alcohol level for draught beers, which would then probably be where the (semi-)myth of American beers in Britain being stronger than in the US came from.
The only state I'm aware of that has 3% beer is Utah, and even there it's only for the beer sold in supermarkets, the stuff in pubs is full strength. Florida has no such rule.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Can't you get Samuel Adams beers? .... They're brewed in Boston and is widely available (groceries and restaurants alike, including those that sell pretty much only Bud, Coors amd Miller), and at least as far south and west as Georgia and Tennessee that I know of; but the best bit is that actually taste like half-decent beer.

Sam Adams beers currently include an ale, a (darkish) larger, a cream stout, a light beer (apparently every brewer must brew one of those ), a hefeweizen, and a black lager (which is currently a favorite of mine), and numerous other seasonal and "brew master" beers - Pale Ale, Scotch Ale, October Fest, Double Bock, Summer Ale, etc.

Aside from Sam Adams beers, I am always on the look out for micro-brewery beers, which are surprisingly widely available. For example one brewery (And restaurant) here in NC is the Weeping Radish. The restaurant is well worth a visit if you are in the area (German style food, to complement the beers), but they distribute their beers fairly widely on the east coast - from NC up to New Jersey. I have also tried many other micro-brewery beers, and most are pretty good.
There is a huge variety of good American beer available, just avoid the macrobrews like plagues and you'll find some good ones:
Some of the best that are nationally available:
http://www.victorybeer.com/
http://www.bellsbeer.com/
http://www.stonebrew.com/
http://www.brooklynbrewery.com/Splas...=/Default.asp&
http://www.threefloyds.com/
http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/
http://www.dogfish.com/
http://www.rogue.com/

All of those are relatively easy to find in quality liquor stores.
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Can't you get Samuel Adams beers? .... They're brewed in Boston and is widely available (groceries and restaurants alike, including those that sell pretty much only Bud, Coors amd Miller), and at least as far south and west as Georgia and Tennessee that I know of; but the best bit is that actually taste like half-decent beer
You can get it in Florida
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There is a huge variety of good American beer available, just avoid the macrobrews like plagues and you'll find some good ones:
Some of the best that are nationally available:
http://www.victorybeer.com/
http://www.bellsbeer.com/
http://www.stonebrew.com/
http://www.brooklynbrewery.com/Splas...=/Default.asp&
http://www.threefloyds.com/
http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/
http://www.dogfish.com/
http://www.rogue.com/

All of those are relatively easy to find in quality liquor stores.

You missed off America Oldest Brewery:

www.yuengling.com

The Black and Tan is great. It's like real ales in England.
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