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Dec 14th 2016, 5:54 pm

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Thanks, Ian. All my years working in courthouses DO come in useful sometimes.

Saves me explaining to the great unwashed!

Dec 14th 2016, 5:59 pm

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Saves me explaining to the great unwashed!

Dec 14th 2016, 6:20 pm

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm

With respect, it seems that it's you who doesn't know the meaning of the word "illegal". Quite simply, it means "against the law". While the term is usually applied to criminal law

This is a rather basic assessment of the word. Having just checked with a barrister I went to University with, the word 'unlawful' is used to apply to tort law. 'Illegal' is used to refer to criminal law.

So, you could say that streaming videos that infringe copyright is potentially unlawful (enforced by the copyright holder) you can absolutely _not_ state that such an action is 'illegal', unless there is a statute in criminal law that prohibits this.

Dec 14th 2016, 6:28 pm

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If you watch British TV shows without a licence it is a criminal offense.

Official TV Licensing website - Detection and penalties

There was an attempt by the government to change this last year but failed.

Failing to pay TV licence to remain criminal offence | Daily Mail Online

Dec 14th 2016, 6:34 pm

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Hopefully they'll get Only Fools and Horses!

Dec 14th 2016, 6:36 pm

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Hopefully they'll get Only Fools and Horses!

Or last of the summer wine for the Yorkshire in people

Dec 14th 2016, 7:18 pm

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This is a rather basic assessment of the word.

You had only a basic understanding of the language. I didn't want to overwhelm you.

Ian

Dec 14th 2016, 8:08 pm

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You had only a basic understanding of the language. I didn't want to overwhelm you.

...yet still, despite that, you were incorrect in your statement.

Dec 14th 2016, 8:08 pm

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Hopefully they'll get Only Fools and Horses!

Why? Americans will never understand it, nor find it funny. If you want to watch OFAH, just download it or buy the DVDs.

Dec 14th 2016, 9:06 pm

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This only applies to live TV. You can watch BBC programs without a TV licence on streaming services as long as it is not a live stream.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...-myths-busted#

Dec 14th 2016, 9:09 pm

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This only applies to live TV. You can watch BBC programs without a TV licence on streaming services as long as it is not a live stream.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...-myths-busted#

iplayer requires you to have a license, regardless of whether you have a tv or not.

Dec 14th 2016, 9:53 pm

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...yet still, despite that, you were incorrect in your statement.

... and yet, I'm not - because the terms aren't used exclusively. Your barrister friend should know that.

Ian

Dec 14th 2016, 10:55 pm

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I think its Dowling v. United States which states that it is not theft, at least.

Dec 15th 2016, 12:34 am

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iplayer requires you to have a license, regardless of whether you have a tv or not.

I agree. I have been prompted several times as to whether or not I have a UK TV licence when watching recorded programs on iPlayer. (It doesn't ask every time).

From the TV licensing link I provided above, a TV licence is required to

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download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.

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Dec 15th 2016, 12:45 am

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That prompt has caused me to delay watching master chef by several seconds at least!

Joking aside, were they to provide a mechanism that allowed payment, I would.

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