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Giantaxe Nov 20th 2014 4:43 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by theOAP (Post 11478880)
His presence in Parliament as a US citizen was not an issue in the past. If Wiki is to be believed:

"Joining the Conservatives, he was elected MP for Henley in 2001. During his period in the House of Commons, Johnson became one of the most conspicuous politicians in the country, authoring books and making regular television appearances. Under Conservative leaders Michael Howard and David Cameron, Johnson served on the opposition front bench, first as Shadow Minister for Culture, Communications and Creative Industries and then for Higher Education."

When did it become generally known that he was a US citizen?

theOAP Nov 20th 2014 4:45 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11478892)
When did it become generally known that he was a US citizen?

The first questionnaire he completed that asked for place of birth?

Giantaxe Nov 20th 2014 4:47 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by theOAP (Post 11478898)
The first questionnaire he completed that asked for place of birth?

I am going to hazard a guess that most Brits wouldn't know that being born in the US automatically confers US citizenship. So, no.

sir_eccles Nov 20th 2014 4:56 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11478892)
When did it become generally known that he was a US citizen?

The most vocal previous incident was around 2006 I think

Furious Boris renounces his US citizenship | UK | News | Daily Express

Then apparently renewed his US passport in 2012,

theOAP Nov 20th 2014 5:02 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11478903)
I am going to hazard a guess that most Brits wouldn't know that being born in the US automatically confers US citizenship. So, no.

I'd hazard a guess (and I could be well, well wrong on this) that the solicitors and financial advisors for the City of London may have known of the reporting obligations of US citizenship, especially if Boris has signature authority over any accounts as Mayor (which he may not).

Bob Nov 20th 2014 5:06 am

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I just find it amusing.

It's also a separate issue to the US government not paying the £7M congestion charge bill.

Hotscot Nov 20th 2014 5:09 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 
And what about FATCA and FBAR I wonder?

And if he's submitting a knowingly incomplete return is that fraudulent?

cranston Nov 20th 2014 5:13 am

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Yeah, this is very bad behaviour and it should disqualify him from future political offices.

Giantaxe Nov 20th 2014 5:16 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by cranston (Post 11478942)
Yeah, this is very bad behaviour and it should disqualify him from future political offices.

Guilty until proven innocent?

theOAP Nov 20th 2014 5:17 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Hotscot (Post 11478938)
And what about FATCA and FBAR I wonder?

And if he's submitting a knowingly incomplete return is that fraudulent?

There's a reasonable possibility we'll never know what has, or hasn't been filed in the past. One thing is for sure, it's no longer an unknown situation. There are already close to 1700 readers comments under the article in the Guardian.

hungryhorace Nov 20th 2014 6:40 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by nun (Post 11478838)
Boris must be filing 1040s, how else would he have an outstanding capital gains tax bill with the IRS. He dealt with this terribly and made some stupid comments. His lack of political skills is probably more of an issue for his future career than some tax problems.

There is a bigger problem of a US citizen working for a foreign government and swearing allegiance to a foreign head of state. He needs to renounce if he wants to progress in UK politics.

No. He doesn't. There is no compulsion for a Cabinet Minister or PM to renounce a second citizenship.

cranston Nov 20th 2014 6:47 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11478949)
Guilty until proven innocent?

According to my friend (a Judge) a US citizen has a Constitutional obligation to pay taxes. Mr Johnson clearly says he made a profit and he is not going to pay the US Govt its share of the taxes. As others have said, if you don't like the taxes give up the citizenship.

The issue is very clearly laid out in the article. This is a simple issue, so your generalization adds nothing of value.

hungryhorace Nov 20th 2014 6:56 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by Hotscot (Post 11478938)
And what about FATCA and FBAR I wonder?

And if he's submitting a knowingly incomplete return is that fraudulent?

Clearly his well paid accountants will handle this all for him. The fact he owes money is quite a strong hint there was nothing 'fraudulent' about it.

Giantaxe Nov 20th 2014 7:10 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by cranston (Post 11479072)
According to my friend (a Judge) a US citizen has a Constitutional obligation to pay taxes. Mr Johnson clearly says he made a profit and he is not going to pay the US Govt its share of the taxes. As others have said, if you don't like the taxes give up the citizenship.

The issue is very clearly laid out in the article. This is a simple issue, so your generalization adds nothing of value.

You don't think people are "innocent until proven guilty" - my "generalization" as you put it?

And please show me something to support the contention that failure to "pay US taxes" disqualifies him from public office in the UK.

sir_eccles Nov 20th 2014 7:19 am

Re: Boris in trouble......?
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11479066)
No. He doesn't. There is no compulsion for a Cabinet Minister or PM to renounce a second citizenship.

According to wikipedia, only Australia and Egypt bar dual citizens from parliament.


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