Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Dec 30th 2005, 6:01 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Isn't it strange how things are here. If someone in England would have told me that I'm getting a can of mace for my birthday, I'd think they were mad. Here it's considered almost normal. A friend (he's a cop & doesn't like the fact that I refuse to carry/have a gun) is buying me a little mace spray thing that goes on your keyring. Here's the link -
http://www.defensexpress.com/macebatons.htm
http://www.defensexpress.com/macebatons.htm
Dec 30th 2005, 6:01 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Use in self defence or to prevent a crime being commited or in the apprehension of a suspect of a crime that has been comitted where the use of such force is justified.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:04 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Partystar
Isn't it strange how things are here. If someone in England would have told me that I'm getting a can of mace for my birthday, I'd think they were mad. Here it's considered almost normal. A friend (he's a cop & doesn't like the fact that I refuse to carry/have a gun) is buying me a little mace spray thing that goes on your keyring. Here's the link -
http://www.defensexpress.com/macebatons.htm
http://www.defensexpress.com/macebatons.htm
Dec 30th 2005, 6:05 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
I have never felt to be in sufficient danger to warrant using a gun or mace or cs spray on anyone........
come on folks, you're more likely to die in a car accident.
yet you all drive.
come on folks, you're more likely to die in a car accident.
yet you all drive.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:06 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Partystar
Well said. I'm guessing that everyone would change their tune if it was them that was the victim & the criminal was caught & convicted based on CCTV footage.
Who here thinks a database of convicted sexual predators is wrong and that when they are placed into society the residents are informed? Its an erosion of the civil liberties of the convicted criminal. But it serves to protect the innocents.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:07 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Ray
It does vary with forces though ...and departments within
Dec 30th 2005, 6:08 pm
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Dec 30th 2005, 6:08 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Who here thinks a database of convicted sexual predators is wrong and that when they are placed into society the residents are informed? Its an erosion of the civil liberties of the convicted criminal. But it serves to protect the innocents.
You can have a guy on the list who ass raped a 4 year old girl fair enough.
But on the same list is a guy who when 18 shagged his 16 year old girlfriend........
It is too arbitrary
Dec 30th 2005, 6:09 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Who here thinks a database of convicted sexual predators is wrong and that when they are placed into society the residents are informed? Its an erosion of the civil liberties of the convicted criminal. But it serves to protect the innocents.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:10 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Manc
I think it's very arbitrary.
You can have a guy on the list who ass raped a 4 year old girl fair enough.
But on the same list is a guy who when 18 shagged his 16 year old girlfriend........
It is too arbitrary
You can have a guy on the list who ass raped a 4 year old girl fair enough.
But on the same list is a guy who when 18 shagged his 16 year old girlfriend........
It is too arbitrary
Yes but thats the application of the law thats too arbitrary. Maybe grades of sexual offence. But the actual register itself is a good thing no?
Dec 30th 2005, 6:10 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Manc
I think it's very arbitrary.
You can have a guy on the list who ass raped a 4 year old girl fair enough.
But on the same list is a guy who when 18 shagged his 16 year old girlfriend........
It is too arbitrary
You can have a guy on the list who ass raped a 4 year old girl fair enough.
But on the same list is a guy who when 18 shagged his 16 year old girlfriend........
It is too arbitrary
Dec 30th 2005, 6:10 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Manc
I have never felt to be in sufficient danger to warrant using a gun or mace or cs spray on anyone........
come on folks, you're more likely to die in a car accident.
yet you all drive.
come on folks, you're more likely to die in a car accident.
yet you all drive.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:11 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
...and wear seatbelts and have airbags.
Dec 30th 2005, 6:12 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
But the actual register itself is a good thing no?
Dec 30th 2005, 6:13 pm
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Re: Big Brother - cameras ? Etc ?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Yes but thats the application of the law thats too arbitrary. Maybe grades of sexual offence. But the actual register itself is a good thing no?
The public needs to be informed of dangers to society, not informed of a horny teenager who couldn't wait for his girlfriends birthday.