SanDiegogirl

I have been receiving my UK State Pension for past year. I have just received a tax demand from HRMC for tax to be paid on these payments.

I have been non resident for tax purposes in the UK for past 20 years ! I have declared these pension payments, and paid tax, on my US tax returns as per the tax treaty between UK and US.

We contacted the Inland Revenue in UK (phoned, as do not have UK Personal Account), and, eventually, contacted a specialist who said they would send a form to me, which I must complete, get notarised, and return to update my information.

Anyone else had this happen? Is completing this form a new procedure?

The form is US-Individual 2002

scrubbedexpat099

I assumed income in the UK means you pay UK taxes which can be offset against US taxes. Well that is how I have always thought of it.

celticgrid

Nothing new involved from recent years, but I have no idea about changes 20 years back.

Form 2002 is a statement / proof to the Inland revenue that you are tax resident in the US and paying taxes on the income there. You complete 2002 and send it off to the IRS with their form 8802. They will process the 8802 which generates a certificate thing telling the Inland Revenue you are tax resident in the US. They then send that, with your stamped 2002, to the Inland Revenue.

I've been through this twice recently.

End result should be your UK tax code goes to "NT". Job done.

When you file the 2002 you also (forget which section) can claim back taxes already paid to the Inland Revenue - if they have taken any yet.

It costs about $85 (check to IRS) for them to process the form and, in my experience, will take between 2-4 months end to end.

You can google all this, download the forms and get on with it - no need to wait for a form to be sent from the UK.

Good luck - they are lovely, friendly forms

celticgrid

Not in this case. Tax treaty takes care of it. Similar applies to other countries that have a similar treaty with the US.

I currently have 2 non-US pensions paying. One in the UK, so I used form 2002 etc. as per above. Second pension is in a country that does not have a tax treaty with the US and I get tax deducted overseas but then allow for that at tax return time.

MidAtlantic

As others have said, there is nothing new about this. Rather than waiting for snail mail you can get the form here: https://assets.publishing.service.go...idual_2002.pdf

SanDiegogirl

Thank you for this.

Does this process (sending in the forms, getting certification, paying the 85 USD) have to be repeated every year if you have a UK State Pension? Hopefully not......

lansbury

No, once you do it it carries forward. Did mine a few years back.

SanDiegogirl

Many thanks.......

SanDiegogirl

Many thanks for the link.....

durham_lad

SanDiegogirl

Just off to the Post Office to post the relevant forms and the cheque for $85 USD to the IRS.

Process takes about 2 to 3 months I hear.

Thanks to all......

durham_lad

sid nv

For UK State Pension, I did not file Form 2002 as this only appears to be necessary when, for example, receiving a Company Pension. I receive State Pension only, so I filed Self Assessment with Form SA109, ticked box 16 to claim personal allowance, filled out box 22 to claim pension relief under the Tax Treaty, and included Helpsheet 304 with section 3(a) (Full Relief for state pension) showing the same amount under DTA Article 17. HMRC have received the return and the HMRC website says I do not owe any tax.
Mind you, it would not surprise me if I had to do this again every year, so filing Form 2002 is probably the way to go.

mikelincs

UK state pension is less than the personal allowance for any individual, mine is tax free, and I only pay tax on my NHS pension which takes me over the allowance.

SanDiegogirl

Thanks for this.

My State pension is over the personal allowance ..... worked for over 35 years in the UK .....