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Old Oct 1st 2011, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by penguinsix
Starting a (hopefully) factual thread here about your average health care premiums. There are other threads available to debate the politics of health care if you so wish.

A new report out states that the average annual premium for family health insurance is now $15,073 of which employees (i.e. you) pay on average $10,944.

The projected average premium in 2021 will be $32,175!

Full report here:

http://ehbs.kff.org/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g.html?hpid=z1


So, with all that, I was just curious if we could get a thread going of monthly premiums. If you have a deductible you can list that too, or any other tidbits that might have skewered the cost. If we get enough data we'll add it to the Health Care Wiki since it seems we get asked so often "how much is insurance".

To start off, my last US health insurance premium for a family of four was $1,530 a month. No deductible, no max limit, $25 copay. This was in 2009.

What are you paying?
My information is out of date, but from 2001-2006, the following applied to me:

No monthly premium for single employees, something like $250 pcm for married/family.

$20 co-pay per doctor visit
10% co-pay for treatment
20% co-pay for mental health treatment
$10 co-pay for generic drugs, 1-month supply
$20 co-pay for approved brand drugs
$50 or more co-pay foor brand drugs not on the approved list

Then it was something like $5,000 per annum maximum contribution from each patient (I think - so if you needed $500,000 of treatment in a year, you'd stop paying co-pays and deductibles after the first $5,000).

There was also a maximum lifetime payment, I think (i.e., after $5m or whatever it was, the insurnace comppany woouldn't pay any more). I think there was also a maximum per condition.

This was public sector (state employee) - from former colleagues, I've heard that the terms are a lot less favourable these days.
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I pay 100% for all my employees (medical and dental) and they are able to add their dependents at their own cost should they choose. Doc visits are $35 copay with 80/20 for hospital stuff. Preventative is covered at 100%.

I pay approximately $1500 a month for 3 employees. The rest are covered on their spouses plans so did not take up the benefit. The plans have gone up on average by 20% each year. Diabolical! We are with BCBS for medical and have just switched to United Healthcare for dental. It's about $300 a month for the dental coverage. I never want my employees to have to worry about being able to "afford to be ill". I am a nice boss
How very un-American of you!
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I pay $120 a month for just myself. I have a $500 deductible and then it's 80/20 plan. I just got the figures for next year and I will have a 2% increase, but that is because I am a non-smoker. The company I work for is going to charge tobacco users a lot more next year. I honestly don't know how they will do this - how will they know who smokes and who doesn't (unless they have random testing). It must be legal though (to charge smokers more) otherwise they wouldn't be able to do it. I work for a very large company, that is why my premiums are fairly low - I know some people who pay a lot more than I do.
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My hubby's company takes it upon themselves to reimburse us up to $500 per year for any prescription drug charges we have paid, after the insurance has paid.

His company also reimburses us for any doctor office co-pays that we have paid, up to $500 per year.

Nice of them!
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An interesting thread - I've been horrified to read what some of you are having to pay...

My employer provides a variety of options. The coverage is the same - what you pay each pay day simply determines the amount of deductible we pay over the year.

In a nut shell we have coverage similar to what we'd have back home with the NHS, for which I pay just under $21 every pay day for - that covers the 2 of us... and a max liability of $2300 for the year.

Here's how it breaks down...
  • My employer covers me fully, and I pay $20.91 every pay day (2 weeks) for she who must be obeyed.
  • I then pay a further $10 for dental cover and $5.50 for vision.
  • We each have a deductible of $1150 for the current year. The employer pays 90% of all 'in network' costs and 70% of everything else. Once we've paid out our deductible, the employer pays everything else - so maximum we pay in the year for the 2 of us is $2300.
  • We have $0 co-pay (yes, read that again - $0) as we have a clinic on-site, paid for by the employer - getting an appointment usually means getting the chance to see somebody the same day!
  • We also have a $400 per year each, 'wellness' budget - so that covers regular checks for cholesterol for example, for various imaging, heart & major organ checks, flu shots and so on.
  • Prescriptions are $8 for generic, $27 for branded, for 90 days.
I also have a medical savings account through payroll, so I have $2000 per year available through that, which I pay in to tax-free. I use that for covering the charges that my employer doesn't.

Our situation is typical - and the same broad costs apply for a family with a bunch of kids etc - it's very good. Prices have gone up by about 4% since last year. The deductible has gone up 15%.

I'll expand a little more on the culture/benefits, as I wonder if other readers here may detect a 'false economy' with those employers that expect the bulk of medical expenses to be paid by the employee...

During the recent downturn our employee satisfaction/engagement has actually increased, and during a time of rapid expansion - you normally see a significant drop in employee satisfaction when the economy hits the buffers and/or the company grows rapidly (which plays havoc with culture if not done carefully).

So although my employer doesn't pay high wages, the benefits like medical do make up for it... along with 401(k) matching, a good bonus scheme which pays out every quarter (except 1 time in the downturn when it didn't) and shares - everybody is given shares when they join and these get topped up regularly...

... as a result we have had a significant reduction in absenteeism for medical reasons, sustained for over 10 years now, and a staff turnover rate of approx 2%. Coming out of the downturn, in our first year we exceeded our previous record year for revenue by over 30% and profits by a similar amount. I believe a happy and healthy workforce is a profitable one.

We have a US friend who works elsewhere, recently had to go to A&E and was in hospital for nearly a week. When he came out, he couldn't afford the prescription meds he needed and so 2 weeks later was back in. Luckily he rents otherwise he'd have even bigger worries. We count ourselves very fortunate to have the kind of medical cover we do, and for not a lot in the grand scheme of things...
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We are a family of four, all relatively healthy so far. Two thirty something adults, two kids under 10.

We have BCBS of MS, we pay about $763 pcm, so about $9156 per annum. This is not a group plan and we have low deductibles.

*That does NOT include maternity cover, we are not planning any more children! Maternity coverage would raise that amount significantly.
*No Dental cover
*No eye cover

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For myself I pay $50 a month, employer pays $350 a month, no deductible, no co-insurance, $20 per doctor visit and $250 per hospitalization. $10 for generic drugs.

When I get to 55 I can retire and keep the same plan.

As I live in MA there are no pre-existing conditions and if I left work I'd be able to buy a state approved plan for $400 a month, $2k deductible, $5k out of pocket annual max, no-coinsurance.
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Hi,

I've been reading this thread with interest and there are a few words with which I'm not at all familiar:-

1) Co-pay
2) In-network
3) Deductible (is this like an excess in the UK?)

I've never been to the States and confess my ignorance with regards their slang and terminology!

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by NATIONAL-VELVET
Hi,

I've been reading this thread with interest and there are a few words with which I'm not at all familiar:-

1) Co-pay
2) In-network
3) Deductible (is this like an excess in the UK?)

I've never been to the States and confess my ignorance with regards their slang and terminology!

Cheers,

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They like to use plenty of different words for "you pay."
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Originally Posted by NATIONAL-VELVET
Hi,

I've been reading this thread with interest and there are a few words with which I'm not at all familiar:-

1) Co-pay
2) In-network
3) Deductible (is this like an excess in the UK?)

I've never been to the States and confess my ignorance with regards their slang and terminology!

Cheers,

NV
Suggest you have a read through the wiki, it's all explained in there....along with numerous other threads if you search it out.

Welcome to BE though
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They like to use plenty of different words for "you pay."
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AND... they can really press your guilt buttons if you need to buy a casket or anything else relating to burials of loved ones...
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Originally Posted by NATIONAL-VELVET
Hi,

I've been reading this thread with interest and there are a few words with which I'm not at all familiar:-

1) Co-pay
2) In-network
3) Deductible (is this like an excess in the UK?)
Co-pay is the amount you pay for each service or prescription. It's designed to prevent you from popping into the GP for every little scratch or bruise (generally it's like $20-$50).

In-network means that your GP has worked out an arrangement for billing and payment with an insurance company (they've done a deal). Going to them costs you less overall than going to just any random GP.

Deductible is the amount you have to pay first before insurance starts paying. Say you have a $1,000 deductible each year. You have a doctor visit that runs $300 (you pay), you then buy $600 of medicine (you pay), and then you get hit by a truck and have a $10,000 medical bill (you pay $100, thus reaching your $1,000 deductible, and the insurance pays the remaining $9,900 along with any other health care costs you have that year), more or less.
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Originally Posted by penguinsix
Co-pay is the amount you pay for each service or prescription. It's designed to prevent you from popping into the GP for every little scratch or bruise (generally it's like $20-$50).

In-network means that your GP has worked out an arrangement for billing and payment with an insurance company (they've done a deal). Going to them costs you less overall than going to just any random GP.

Deductible is the amount you have to pay first before insurance starts paying. Say you have a $1,000 deductible each year. You have a doctor visit that runs $300 (you pay), you then buy $600 of medicine (you pay), and then you get hit by a truck and have a $10,000 medical bill (you pay $100, thus reaching your $1,000 deductible, and the insurance pays the remaining $9,900 along with any other health care costs you have that year), more or less.
Righto, it's beginning to make sense. I'll head over to the Wikis now. Thanks.
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