jimmyk

I need to find out if i have a 2 year restriction on my old j-1 visa which expired oct 2001.
I don't have the pink piece of paper with the info on it (I-66 i think??)
In my passport it looks like this.

Vsa Type / class
R J1

(and under Annotation is blank, then)

P 4 4208

Anybody know if i can tell if i have a restriction from this, i'm having a nightmare getting intouch with camp america to find out.

HELP. James

Max

> Vsa Type / class
> R J1

You dont have 2 year HRR. I already had same
visa type/class and was not subject to this
HRR. I know guys who were and it was clearly
written on their visa.
Anyway, 2 year HRR depends on type of funding
(public/private) during your stay there.

> (and under Annotation is blank, then)
> P 4 4208
This is the program sponsor ID.
best
Max

jimmyk

Thanks Max,
i hope what you told me is true, Camp America WILL NOT answer my e-mails at the moment, i hope someone else can confirm what you told me, thanks again.
James

Mark Carroll

In article ,
Max wrote:
    >> Vsa Type / class
    >> R J1
    >You dont have 2 year HRR. I already had same
    >visa type/class and was not subject to this
    >HRR. I know guys who were and it was clearly
    >written on their visa.
(snip)

IMLE different consulates would note it differently - I'd be reluctant
to deduce much from the absence of a notation given that I've had J-1s
with and without any mention of 212(e) even though there was no
difference in my HRR obligations between them. Or are you saying that
the guys with the HRR obligation had a visa type other than R?

-- Mark

Max

I got no idea what is the real meaning of
R. I had same notation R J1 on my visa
and was not subject to 2 year HRR.
I know lot of guys who applied for visa
at different consulates and when
they were subject to HRR, this
was clearly written on their visa.
Usually, it depends on the supporting
funds during the stay in US. Guys
who have governmental funds (from home
country) have always the 2year HRR.
Max

Sylvia Ottemoeller

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    > I need to find out if i have a 2 year restriction on my old j-1 visa
    > which expired oct 2001.
    > I don't have the pink piece of paper with the info on it (I-66 i
    > think??)
    > In my passport it looks like this.
    >=20
    > Vsa Type / class
    > R J1

R means "regular" as opposed to "diplomatic," or other designation that =
a person might have. R does not refer to the type of U.S. status. =20

    > (and under Annotation is blank, then)
    >=20
    > P 4 4208

That is the program number for your J-1 sponsor.=20

    > Anybody know if i can tell if i have a restriction from this, i'm =
having
    > a nightmare getting intouch with camp america to find out.
    >=20
    > HELP. James

James, there are three ways of becoming subject to the J-1 2 year home =
residence requirement, also known as 212(e). Most J-1 camp counselors =
do not become subject. =20

The three bases for being subject are: (1) government funding; (2) =
skills list; (3) graduate medical education. See =
http://travel.state.gov/waiv-
er_instructions.html. =20

On (1): Most of the programs sponsored by camp counselor agencies do =
not involve funding by either the U.S. government or the home =
government. You are simply paid by the camp. =20

On (2): Most of the programs sponsored by camp counselor agencies are =
for exchanges from developed countries, Canada, U.K., Germany, etc., =
etc. I'm not sure why; that's the way it is. Most developed countries =
don't have a skills list. =20

On (3): J-1 camp counselor status may not be used for graduate medical =
education. =20

Taken together with the fact that your visa stamp does not indicate that =
you are subject, you may be fairly sure that you are not subject. =20

However, you do not have the *evidence* that you will eventually need, =
to show the INS that you are not subject to 212(e). I think you can get =
your I-130/I-485 filed, by showing the visa stamp which does *not* have =
the endorsement that you *are* subject. You can remain in the U.S. as =
an I-485 applicant, indefinitely until the case is adjudicated, with =
employment authorization that you have to renew once a year. =20

When the time comes for the INS examiner to adjudicate your I-485, that =
person has to be absolutely sure that you are not subject. The best way =
for you to prove this is to get an advisory opinion from the Department =
of State Exchange Visitor Program; see =
http://travel.state.gov/j_faq.html,
"Advisory Opinions." However, to do =
that you must provide the EV program copies of your Forms IAP-66. =20

If you cannot get a copy of your IAP-66 from Camp America, and you are =
sure that you do not have your own pink copy of the IAP-66 in your =
records anywhere, then the only copy left is INS's copy, and who knows =
where that is stored. INS may be able to retrieve it eventually. =20





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This depends on your funds whether self-funded or by an organization in =
US or in your home country. You have no two years restriction if you are =
self-funded and is able to change your status.=20
"Sylvia Ottemoeller" wrote in message =
news:[email protected]
u...

"jimmyk" wrote in message =
news:439016.1034226868@britishexpa-
ts.com...

> I need to find out if i have a 2 year restriction on my old j-1 visa
> which expired oct 2001.
> I don't have the pink piece of paper with the info on it (I-66 i
> think??)
> In my passport it looks like this.
>=20
> Vsa Type / class
> R J1

R means "regular" as opposed to "diplomatic," or other designation =
that a person might have. R does not refer to the type of U.S. status. =


> (and under Annotation is blank, then)
>=20
> P 4 4208

That is the program number for your J-1 sponsor.=20

> Anybody know if i can tell if i have a restriction from this, i'm =
having
> a nightmare getting intouch with camp america to find out.
>=20
> HELP. James

James, there are three ways of becoming subject to the J-1 2 year home =
residence requirement, also known as 212(e). Most J-1 camp counselors =
do not become subject. =20

The three bases for being subject are: (1) government funding; (2) =
skills list; (3) graduate medical education. See =
http://travel.state.gov/wa-
iver_instructions.html. =20

On (1): Most of the programs sponsored by camp counselor agencies do =
not involve funding by either the U.S. government or the home =
government. You are simply paid by the camp. =20

On (2): Most of the programs sponsored by camp counselor agencies are =
for exchanges from developed countries, Canada, U.K., Germany, etc., =
etc. I'm not sure why; that's the way it is. Most developed countries =
don't have a skills list. =20

On (3): J-1 camp counselor status may not be used for graduate =
medical education. =20

Taken together with the fact that your visa stamp does not indicate =
that you are subject, you may be fairly sure that you are not subject. =20

However, you do not have the *evidence* that you will eventually need, =
to show the INS that you are not subject to 212(e). I think you can get =
your I-130/I-485 filed, by showing the visa stamp which does *not* have =
the endorsement that you *are* subject. You can remain in the U.S. as =
an I-485 applicant, indefinitely until the case is adjudicated, with =
employment authorization that you have to renew once a year. =20

When the time comes for the INS examiner to adjudicate your I-485, =
that person has to be absolutely sure that you are not subject. The =
best way for you to prove this is to get an advisory opinion from the =
Department of State Exchange Visitor Program; see =
http://travel.state.gov/j_faq.html,
"Advisory Opinions." However, to do =
that you must provide the EV program copies of your Forms IAP-66. =20

If you cannot get a copy of your IAP-66 from Camp America, and you are =
sure that you do not have your own pink copy of the IAP-66 in your =
records anywhere, then the only copy left is INS's copy, and who knows =
where that is stored. INS may be able to retrieve it eventually. =20





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This depends on your funds whether self-funded or by =
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"Sylvia Ottemoeller" <[email protected]>=
wrote=20
in message news:[email protected]=
oc.ucla.edu...
"jimmyk" <[email protected]>=
wrote=20
in message news:439016.1034226868@-
britishexpats.com...> I =
need to=20
find out if i have a 2 year restriction on my old j-1 visa> =
which=20
expired oct 2001.> I don't have the pink piece of paper with =
the info=20
on it (I-66 i> think??)> In my passport it looks like=20
this.> > Vsa Type / class>=20
RÂ Â Â Â Â Â J1
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R means "regular" as opposed to =
"diplomatic," or=20
other designation that a person might have. R does not refer to =
the type=20
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> (and under Annotation is blank, then)> > P =
4=20
4208
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That is the program number for your J-1 sponsor. > =
Anybody=20
know if i can tell if i have a restriction from this, i'm =
having> a=20
nightmare getting intouch with camp america to find out.> =
    >=20
HELP. JamesJames, there are three ways of becoming subject to =
the=20
J-1Â 2 year home residence requirement, also known as =
212(e). Most=20
J-1 camp counselors do not become subject. The three bases for being subject
are:Â (1) =
government=20
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http://travel.s=
tate.gov/waiver_instructions.html. =20
On (1):Â Most of the =
programs=20
sponsored by camp counselor agencies do not involve funding =
by=20
either the U.S. government or the home government. You are =
simply paid=20
by the camp.Â
On (2):Â Most of the programs sponsored by camp=20
counselor agencies are for exchanges from developed countries, =
Canada,=20
U.K., Germany, etc., etc. I'm not sure why; that's the way it =
UL. =20
Most developed countries don't have a skills list. On =
(3):Â =20
J-1 camp counselor status may not be used for graduate =
medical=20
education.Â
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Taken together with the fact that your visa stamp does not =
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you are subject, you may be fairly sure that you are not =
subject.Â
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However, you do not have the *evidence* that you will eventually =
need, to=20
show the INS that you are not subject to 212(e). I think you can =
get=20
your I-130/I-485 filed, by showing the visa stamp which does *not* =
have the=20
endorsement that you *are* subject. You can remain in the U.S. =
as an=20
I-485 applicant, indefinitely until the case is adjudicated, with =
employment=20
authorization that you have to renew once a year.Â
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When the time comes for the INS examiner to adjudicate your =
I-485, that=20
person has to be absolutely sure that you are not subject. The =
best way=20
for you to prove this is to get an advisory opinion from the =
Department=20
of State Exchange Visitor Program; see
http://travel.state.gov/j_faq=
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program=20
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you are=20
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