1040 - UK account interest?
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1040 - UK account interest?
Filing my 1040 will be a bit more complicated this year now that I have a foreign account (a sterling account in the Isle of Man.) I'm aware that I need to fill out Schedule B, with the interest amount, answer question 7, and enter the interest total on the 1040. Also, I'm aware of the requirement to file the US Treasury Form TD F 90-22.1 by June 30, 2008.
Here's my question - I've looked everywhere, but can't find any hint of an answer.. with foreign bank interest, how do you convert the amount to US dollars? Do you use a rate on the day you fill out the return, or do you have to find the actual rate on the day each month when the interest was credited, or what? I'm assuming that the bank in the Isle of Man isn't going to provide me with a 1099..?
Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!!
Robin
Here's my question - I've looked everywhere, but can't find any hint of an answer.. with foreign bank interest, how do you convert the amount to US dollars? Do you use a rate on the day you fill out the return, or do you have to find the actual rate on the day each month when the interest was credited, or what? I'm assuming that the bank in the Isle of Man isn't going to provide me with a 1099..?
Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!!
Robin
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
When we have completed our returns, my wife also had to do so while living in the UK, we used the bank exchange rate on the day we completed the return.
Never had it questioned and my wife lived in the UK for 10 years.
Never had it questioned and my wife lived in the UK for 10 years.
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My OAP is paid into my US bank having been converted into dollars. I log the exchange rate for each payment (13) and average out for the year end. This worked out at $1.996 per Pound Sterling. That is the exchange rate I use for the interest accrued on my other accounts and pension paid into my UK Bank for the IRS. As per the previous reply no questions have been asked.
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
Filing my 1040 will be a bit more complicated this year now that I have a foreign account (a sterling account in the Isle of Man.) I'm aware that I need to fill out Schedule B, with the interest amount, answer question 7, and enter the interest total on the 1040. Also, I'm aware of the requirement to file the US Treasury Form TD F 90-22.1 by June 30, 2008.
Here's my question - I've looked everywhere, but can't find any hint of an answer.. with foreign bank interest, how do you convert the amount to US dollars? Do you use a rate on the day you fill out the return, or do you have to find the actual rate on the day each month when the interest was credited, or what? I'm assuming that the bank in the Isle of Man isn't going to provide me with a 1099..?
Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!!
Robin
Here's my question - I've looked everywhere, but can't find any hint of an answer.. with foreign bank interest, how do you convert the amount to US dollars? Do you use a rate on the day you fill out the return, or do you have to find the actual rate on the day each month when the interest was credited, or what? I'm assuming that the bank in the Isle of Man isn't going to provide me with a 1099..?
Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!!
Robin
Reg.
http://london.usembassy.gov/irs/irsfaq.htm This shows 1996 -2006, guess 07 rate will appear manana.
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
Thanks, all, for very useful thoughts & information.
Living in the US, I'd never have thought of the US Embassy in the UK as a source of good tax info ... but that FAQ on the Embassy site is extremely useful for any taxpayer with foreign income.
Robin
Living in the US, I'd never have thought of the US Embassy in the UK as a source of good tax info ... but that FAQ on the Embassy site is extremely useful for any taxpayer with foreign income.
Robin
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
I can't find the IRS guidance on this at the moment, but I remember reading of two alternatives. One was to associate each transaction with the exchange rate prevailing on the day, and the other was to use an overall exchange rate for the year. If you want to do the latter, they suggested the "US Treasury Reporting Rates of Exchange" at http://www.fms.treas.gov/intn.html.
Once the 31 December 2007 rates are up, they would be the ones for the 2007 tax form.
Once the 31 December 2007 rates are up, they would be the ones for the 2007 tax form.
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
Hello - again, thanks for useful answers to my question posed a few weeks ago. I have a follow-up question, specifically about interest paid by a foreign bank.
As I said in my first post, I'm aware that I need to fill out Schedule B, with the interest amount, answer question 7, and enter the interest total on the 1040. Also, I'm aware of the requirement to file the US Treasury Form TD F 90-22.1 by June 30, 2008.
Is it necessary to submit any documentation confirming the interest paid by a foreign bank? All I have is the amount credited on the monthly statements from the bank, so I can add it up, convert to dollars, and enter it on the schedule B & carry it forward to the 1040. If it was an American bank I'd have a 1099 to submit, but with the bank in the Isle of Man, there is no equivalent.
Thanks!
Robin
As I said in my first post, I'm aware that I need to fill out Schedule B, with the interest amount, answer question 7, and enter the interest total on the 1040. Also, I'm aware of the requirement to file the US Treasury Form TD F 90-22.1 by June 30, 2008.
Is it necessary to submit any documentation confirming the interest paid by a foreign bank? All I have is the amount credited on the monthly statements from the bank, so I can add it up, convert to dollars, and enter it on the schedule B & carry it forward to the 1040. If it was an American bank I'd have a 1099 to submit, but with the bank in the Isle of Man, there is no equivalent.
Thanks!
Robin
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
I have never worried about not having an equivalent to the 1099, and haven't run into any problems. Personally, I go through my statements, add up the interest for the tax year, print out a piece of paper with my calculations and keep it with the statements and my hard copy of the tax form. [I file electronically so the IRS aren't getting a hard copy of anything anyway though...]
P.S. I wouldn't worry too much about these things - so long as you aren't doing a Wesley Snipes and imagining that you don't have to pay tax, the consequences of getting something wrong won't be catastrophic!
P.S. I wouldn't worry too much about these things - so long as you aren't doing a Wesley Snipes and imagining that you don't have to pay tax, the consequences of getting something wrong won't be catastrophic!
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Re: 1040 - UK account interest?
I have never worried about not having an equivalent to the 1099, and haven't run into any problems. Personally, I go through my statements, add up the interest for the tax year, print out a piece of paper with my calculations and keep it with the statements and my hard copy of the tax form. [I file electronically so the IRS aren't getting a hard copy of anything anyway though...]
P.S. I wouldn't worry too much about these things - so long as you aren't doing a Wesley Snipes and imagining that you don't have to pay tax, the consequences of getting something wrong won't be catastrophic!
P.S. I wouldn't worry too much about these things - so long as you aren't doing a Wesley Snipes and imagining that you don't have to pay tax, the consequences of getting something wrong won't be catastrophic!
Robin
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Historical sterling exchange rates here:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/EXUSUK.txt
- they are monthly averages rather than daily/weekly, but I don't think the IRS kicks up too much of a stink about what methiod you use, as long as you declare it and you aren't using an obviously exaggerated exchange rate.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/EXUSUK.txt
- they are monthly averages rather than daily/weekly, but I don't think the IRS kicks up too much of a stink about what methiod you use, as long as you declare it and you aren't using an obviously exaggerated exchange rate.