** URGENT REPLIES PLZ ** NEED children Brit passports...
#16
Re: ** URGENT REPLIES PLZ ** NEED children Brit passports...
The reason is, more-or-less, in summary, (and with apologies to those who have personal angles on the history), that a sizeable chunk of the NI population wanted to be part of Ireland, but in practice distinguishing "nationalist" from "loyalist" is impractical, so the Irish government will generally issue a passport to any Northern Irish British citizen who applies for one.
#17
Re: ** URGENT REPLIES PLZ ** NEED children Brit passports...
We would like to know if anybody out there has any knowledge of whether or not it is possible to group several UK passport applications together as a group submission, instead of having to send each individually?
My wife only has one copy of her long-form UK birth cert - but we recognize that you normally have to submit one copy PER application submitted.
Our hope is that since the children are all related - and ours - that we can use her single long-form birth cert for all three applications simultaneously, so we can then have all three resulting Brit passports back at same time.
We have an urgency about our return to Northern Ireland, and so want to obtain the children's Brit passports ASAP - we don't have the time to submit each one and wait out weeks for each one to be delivered before submitting the next application.
Can anyone provide us with a quick answer on this?
My wife only has one copy of her long-form UK birth cert - but we recognize that you normally have to submit one copy PER application submitted.
Our hope is that since the children are all related - and ours - that we can use her single long-form birth cert for all three applications simultaneously, so we can then have all three resulting Brit passports back at same time.
We have an urgency about our return to Northern Ireland, and so want to obtain the children's Brit passports ASAP - we don't have the time to submit each one and wait out weeks for each one to be delivered before submitting the next application.
Can anyone provide us with a quick answer on this?
Irish citizenship law refers to the island of Ireland, not the country, so a birth in Belfast is treated the same as a birth in Dublin for the purposes of acquiring an Irish passport. The practical upshot of this is that most people born in Northern Ireland are both British and Irish citizens.
#18
Re: ** URGENT REPLIES PLZ ** NEED children Brit passports...
Anyone born in NI can apply for an Irish passport. I am not certain what the rules are for claiming an Irish passport based on parental or grand-parental birth in NI, but I suspect it is also possible.
The reason is, more-or-less, in summary, (and with apologies to those who have personal angles on the history), that a sizeable chunk of the NI population wanted to be part of Ireland, but in practice distinguishing "nationalist" from "loyalist" is impractical, so the Irish government will generally issue a passport to any Northern Irish British citizen who applies for one.
The reason is, more-or-less, in summary, (and with apologies to those who have personal angles on the history), that a sizeable chunk of the NI population wanted to be part of Ireland, but in practice distinguishing "nationalist" from "loyalist" is impractical, so the Irish government will generally issue a passport to any Northern Irish British citizen who applies for one.
Irish nationality law goes further, and confers automatic citizenship at birth on any children of a person born a citizen of Ireland on the island of Ireland. Anyone else who has a parent who is an Irish citizen at the time of their birth can register as an Irish citizen but is only a citizen from the time that they register.
So in my wife's case, her grandmother was born in what is now Northern Ireland before partition and so was an Irish citizen under the Irish constitution and law from birth. My wife's father, born in the US, was under Irish law an Irish citizen from birth (much to his distaste, when my wife discovered this, as he was very much of the opinion that he was American first, last and only). My wife was therefore able to register as an Irish citizen when she was about twenty and was able to move to the UK to live with, and eventually marry me.
Now we're in the US, and in the unlikely event that we ever have any children, they would be US and UK citizens at birth, and entitled to be registered as Irish citizens. Under current Irish law Irish citizenship can be passed on by descent in this way indefinitely, although each generation needs to make sure they have registered before having children themselves in order to pass on that right.
And Irish law used to be even more liberal - up until the 80s I think it was, anyone married to an Irish citizen for more than a couple of years could themselves register as an Irish citizen, even if they weren't living in, or even had never set foot upon, Ireland. Now if I wanted to claim Irish citizenship through my wife we would have to actually move there to live for a few years. Maybe worth considering if the UK ever leaves the EU.
Last edited by rpjs; Jan 6th 2014 at 9:01 pm.