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What to do if Green card misplaced outside US

Old May 26th 2001, 6:43 am
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Anurita gupta
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Hi, What steps should one take if he/she lost the PR card while outside US. What will
allow the individual to get beck quickly.

Anurita [email protected]
 
Old May 26th 2001, 6:54 am
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Go to the nearest US Embassy/ Consulate. Bring your passport. You can file for a new
card at the embassy or you can ask for a "boarding letter" and file for a replacement
when you return home. The second is probably the fastest. There will be a charge for
the verification telegram ( I don't know how much) and a fee for the application if
you file there. The application fee will also apply if you file after returning home.

Good Luck

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Old May 26th 2001, 3:42 pm
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Hello Anurita,

This happened to my wife - although she had, without considering that her GC was in
it, deliberately left her purse at home in the US for safety reasons when we visited
our homeland a couple years ago. The American Embassy was not at all helpful when
they heard this. In fact, after reading her the riot act for being so "stupid", the
official took a telephone call for twenty minutes, and then told us there was nothing
he could do. Trying to push the issue only got us told to leave.

We confirmed independently over the phone to the embassy that they do not have the
ability to check the immigration records (our flight was the same day), but if we
could get to the States, the immigration officials would be able to help us. We used
this information to convince the airline to let her on. It helped that our passports
had been renewed from our home country embassy in the US.

When we arrived in the US, the Justice Department officials at the port of entry were
extremely helpful. Yes, there was a large fee to pay - Over $100, I can not remember
exactly how much, and it has probably increased since then. The official checked with
his superior, who afterwards, and in a very nice way, told us to be more careful in
the future.

I believe the embassy would have been much more friendly/helpful had the GC been
stolen, but then, of course, we would have, no doubt, been required to produce a copy
of the police report.

Good luck! Stephen

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Old May 27th 2001, 9:10 am
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That's a sad situation because the Embassy could have and should have helped you.
They do have the capability to check with INS and verify your status if you are
properly identified. It's fairly routine and can be done by telex in 3 hours or by
phone to any INS port of entry in a few minutes. They are authorized to charge you
for the communication. They then should have issued you a boarding letter to present
to the carrier to allow you to board without the carrier being fined for boarding
without a visa. I am surprised you were able to convince the carrier to board you. If
INS charged you at the port of entry, that should have been the fee for a visa
waiver. If your wife had lost the card, they could have charged the fee for an
application for a replacement card or deferred the inspection to your local INS
office to file for a replacement. They should never charge for both. In other words,
if she lost her card they would charge a fee for the replacement, but not charge for
the visa waiver. In all probability, if they completed a visa waiver and fee, they
would have also fined the carrier for boarding her without a visa. The fine for the
carrier is $3000.00 per person, per incident. So INS made over $3100.00 on your
transaction. hence the reason for the smiles and good treatment. There is a law that
all resident aliens over the age of 18 carry their resident card with them at all
times. The penalty for failure to do so is a fine not to exceed $100, 30 days in jail
or both. I have 32 years with INS and have never seen that enforced, but it is on the
books. It is always a good idea to make a black and white copy of ID page of the
passports and the resident card. keep one copy with important papers at home, one
with your lawyer if you have one and one in the inside flap of your suitcase. If you
forget to pack a copy, one will automatically be in your luggage.

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[usenetquote2]> >Hi, What steps should one take if he/she lost the PR card while outside US. What[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> >Anurita [email protected][/usenetquote2]
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Old May 27th 2001, 12:16 pm
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Stephen
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Hello Tankman,

Thank you for your response, especially in the light of your credentials. Impressive
web site!

Unfortunately, the experience I related was not the first where the consular
representative came across as a little god. My pleas, and polite request to speak
with his superior were met with "No, you'll have to leave now". I had visions of
being escorted off the premises forcibly, and so we left. My US-born son-in-law was
extremely upset when he heard about this, and it was he who subsequently called and
obtained the further information.

I know they are only doing their jobs, but these people have way too much power - and
there is no way around them. About six years ago we arranged to pay for our then
25-year-old son to visit. We had not seen him for three years, and did not want to
complicate our GC process by leaving the US. Well, we received a frantic fax in the
early hours one morning. Our son and his wife had been denied a visitor's visa on the
basis of the official's "feeling that something was not right". Fortunately, this had
a happy ending, as, after our fax to the consul, they were called in for another
interview by the same official, and the visa was granted. He has visited us since we
received our GCs, and, although he was required to be interviewed, was not denied on
this occasion, although the official was very aggressive about the possibility that
his wife still had a valid visa (she did not come). Nonetheless, he was still made to
feel the criminal.

Thanks, again, Stephen

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[usenetquote2]>> Hello Anurita,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> This happened to my wife - although she had, without considering that[/usenetquote2]
her GC
[usenetquote2]>> was in it, deliberately left her purse at home in the US for safety[/usenetquote2]
reasons
[usenetquote2]>> when we visited our homeland a couple years ago. The American Embassy[/usenetquote2]
was not
[usenetquote2]>> at all helpful when they heard this. In fact, after reading her the riot[/usenetquote2]
act
[usenetquote2]>> for being so "stupid", the official took a telephone call for twenty[/usenetquote2]
minutes,
[usenetquote2]>> and then told us there was nothing he could do. Trying to push the issue[/usenetquote2]
only
[usenetquote2]>> got us told to leave.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> We confirmed independently over the phone to the embassy that they do[/usenetquote2]
not have
[usenetquote2]>> the ability to check the immigration records (our flight was the same[/usenetquote2]
day), but
[usenetquote2]>> if we could get to the States, the immigration officials would be able[/usenetquote2]
to help
[usenetquote2]>> us. We used this information to convince the airline to let her on. It[/usenetquote2]
helped
[usenetquote2]>> that our passports had been renewed from our home country embassy in the[/usenetquote2]
US.
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> When we arrived in the US, the Justice Department officials at the port[/usenetquote2]
of
[usenetquote2]>> entry were extremely helpful. Yes, there was a large fee to pay - Over[/usenetquote2]
$100, I
[usenetquote2]>> can not remember exactly how much, and it has probably increased since[/usenetquote2]
then.
[usenetquote2]>> The official checked with his superior, who afterwards, and in a very[/usenetquote2]
nice way,
[usenetquote2]>> told us to be more careful in the future.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> I believe the embassy would have been much more friendly/helpful had the[/usenetquote2]
GC
[usenetquote2]>> been stolen, but then, of course, we would have, no doubt, been required[/usenetquote2]
to
[usenetquote2]>> produce a copy of the police report.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> Good luck! Stephen[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>>[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]>> >Hi, What steps should one take if he/she lost the PR card while outside US. What[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> >will allow the individual to get beck quickly.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]>> >Anurita [email protected][/usenetquote2]
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