Sophie T

"Lucy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.
    > I don't believe your US green card will gain you any advantages. If Indian
    > citizens need a visa to enter a country, then you do too.
    > Lucy

Your US permanent resident status and your passport will get you into
Switzerland without a passport according to the Swiss Embassy website:

http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_e...lar/visas.html


U.S. Green Card Holders:

No visa is required for foreigners who have a valid U.S. green card
(Permanent Resident Card, form I-551) and a valid national passport for
tourism, visits, business or medical treatment for a stay up to 90 days.
Both documents (passport and green card) must be valid at least three months
after leaving Swiss territory.
Please note that the passport stamp "processed for I-551" is not considered
a green card and that general visa requirements would apply in that case.

Sorry I don't know about other countries, but a check on their websites
will probably tell you.

Sophie

Sophie T

Sorry that first statement should read:

"without a US passport"


"Sophie T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Lucy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.
    >> I don't believe your US green card will gain you any advantages. If
    >> Indian
    >> citizens need a visa to enter a country, then you do too.
    >> Lucy
    > Your US permanent resident status and your passport will get you into
    > Switzerland without a passport according to the Swiss Embassy website:
    > http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_e...lar/visas.html
    > U.S. Green Card Holders:
    > No visa is required for foreigners who have a valid U.S. green card
    > (Permanent Resident Card, form I-551) and a valid national passport for
    > tourism, visits, business or medical treatment for a stay up to 90 days.
    > Both documents (passport and green card) must be valid at least three
    > months after leaving Swiss territory.
    > Please note that the passport stamp "processed for I-551" is not
    > considered a green card and that general visa requirements would apply in
    > that case.
    > Sorry I don't know about other countries, but a check on their websites
    > will probably tell you.
    > Sophie
    >

Sophie T

"scotta" <member30122@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    >> With the exception of Canada and Mexico you can't "travel" on a
    >> greencard. You travel to foreign countries with your passport. You
    >> re-enter the US with your green card. No advantages to being a green
    >> card holder in my opinion.
    > Can anyone confirm this? As a South African passport holder I need a
    > visa to travel to Canada. Can I present my Green Card instead and not
    > have to get a VISA?
    > I know people used to travel across the border on their Washington State
    > drivers license. (I live in Seattle)
    > Thanks
    > Scott
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

From the Citizenship and Immigration Canada website:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.html

Visitor Visa Exemptions:
Many people do not require a visa to visit Canada. These include:
persons lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence who
are in possession of their alien registration card (Green card) or can
provide other evidence of permanent residence.

Sophie

Ramesh Pun

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone knew of a website or had some information about
the differences between a Greencard holder and a US passport holder when
traveling overseas?

In the US, both the greencard holder and the us citizen are pretty much on
similar footing. Even when traveling to Canada that holds true. But what
about travel to European countries? Or Far East? Or elsewhere?
Do those countries treat greencard holders as equivalent to US passport
holders or do those countries look at the greencard holders origin country
and apply the policies applicable to that country?

I realize it would be different for different countries. So a pointer to a
website would be helpful.
Thanks,
Ram.

Lucy

"Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    > I was wondering if anyone knew of a website or had some information about
    > the differences between a Greencard holder and a US passport holder when
    > traveling overseas?

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Requirements such as visas for
entering other countries seem to be based on your passport. For example,
when I was getting a visa to go to India, it took several days to be issued,
whereas the US citizens I was travelling with got theirs the same day we
applied. But once I had the visa and went to India, I was treated the same
as my US citizen counterparts.

If I go to the EU, I'm treated as an EU citizen and my US permanent
residence doesn't seem to mean much at all.

In my case, I can't think of any country I could travel to where having US
permanent residence would be considered an advantage over my British
citizenship, so maybe I'm in a different position to you.

What is your citizenship and where are you thinking of going? What
differences are you thinking you might come across?

Lucy

Ramesh Pun

"Lucy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Hi,
    >> I was wondering if anyone knew of a website or had some information about
    >> the differences between a Greencard holder and a US passport holder when
    >> traveling overseas?
    > Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Requirements such as visas for
    > entering other countries seem to be based on your passport.

Thats what I was getting at.

    > If I go to the EU, I'm treated as an EU citizen and my US permanent
    > residence doesn't seem to mean much at all.
    > In my case, I can't think of any country I could travel to where having US
    > permanent residence would be considered an advantage over my British
    > citizenship, so maybe I'm in a different position to you.

    > What is your citizenship and where are you thinking of going? What
    > differences are you thinking you might come across?


I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.

    > Lucy
    >

Lucy

"Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.

I don't believe your US green card will gain you any advantages. If Indian
citizens need a visa to enter a country, then you do too.

Lucy

franc111s

<quote> In the US, both the greencard holder and the us citizen are pretty much on
similar footing.</quote>

The green card is NOTrecognized by any other country other than the USA (why should it be). So travelling to England or Spain you would have to use whatever passport/visa etc., you would use as if you flew in from your country of citizenship.

FYI, the green card in the USA does not have the same rights as a USC.

1. If you commit a crime, the green card can be revoked and you can be kicked out (after your sentence).
2. You cannot vote.
3. You are restricted to living in the USA and cannot leave for durations of more than 6 months without first filing an "extension of stay" or something.
4. If you don't follow 3, then you can lose you Green Card (Permanent Resident) status.
5. You cannot serve on a jury.
6. I think you can't become a senator or congressman (or something) either.

Nice day everyone.

Rete

With the exception of Canada and Mexico you can't "travel" on a greencard. You travel to foreign countries with your passport. You re-enter the US with your green card. No advantages to being a green card holder in my opinion.

vin736

Yup true. Unless you have a US passport, you will need to check for
Visa application rules as an Indian citizen.

There are some places where Indian citizens can get Visa's on arrival -
e.g. Thailand, but I think for countries in Europe you will need to
apply and get a visa before reaching there.

Vinay
Lucy wrote:
    > "Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.
    > >
    > I don't believe your US green card will gain you any advantages. If
Indian
    > citizens need a visa to enter a country, then you do too.
    >
    > Lucy

scotta

Can anyone confirm this? As a South African passport holder I need a visa to travel to Canada. Can I present my Green Card instead and not have to get a VISA?

I know people used to travel across the border on their Washington State drivers license. (I live in Seattle)

Thanks
Scott

Bob

That's a plus in my book though

Bob

I think you'd need the visa, the drivers license to get to canada, only good if your in the US...

Jusferkicks.

"franc111s" <member34607@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
    >> "Lucy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > "Ramesh Pun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]...
    >> >> Hi,
    >> >> I was wondering if anyone knew of a website or had some information
    >> >> about
    >> >> the differences between a Greencard holder and a US passport holder
    >> >> when
    >> >> traveling overseas?
    >> > Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Requirements such as visas
    >> > for
    >> > entering other countries seem to be based on your passport.
    >> Thats what I was getting at.
    >> > If I go to the EU, I'm treated as an EU citizen and my US permanent
    >> > residence doesn't seem to mean much at all.
    >> > In my case, I can't think of any country I could travel to where
    >> > having US
    >> > permanent residence would be considered an advantage over my British
    >> > citizenship, so maybe I'm in a different position to you.
    >> > What is your citizenship and where are you thinking of going? What
    >> > differences are you thinking you might come across?
    >> I hold an Indian passport, so that is a big difference.
    >> > Lucy
    >> >
    > <quote> In the US, both the greencard holder and the us citizen are
    > pretty much on
    > similar footing.</quote>
    > The green card is NOTrecognized by any other country other than the USA
    > (why should it be). So travelling to England or Spain you would have to

WRONG!!! do not show off here if you don't know what are you talking
about:) just two examples for you

1) Switzerland
2) Canada


    > use whatever passport/visa etc., you would use as if you flew in from
    > your country of citizenship.
    > FYI, the green card in the USA does not have the same rights as a USC.
    > 1. If you commit a crime, the green card can be revoked and you can be
    > kicked out (after your sentence).
    > 2. You cannot vote.
    > 3. You are restricted to living in the USA and cannot leave for
    > durations of more than 6 months without first filing an "extension of
    > stay" or something.
    > 4. If you don't follow 3, then you can lose you Green Card (Permanent
    > Resident) status.
    > 5. You cannot serve on a jury.
    > 6. I think you can't become a senator or congressman (or
    > something) either.
    > ;) Nice day everyone.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Bitwise

my personal experience and research for visa requirements to other
countries could be summarized as follow: No country is required to
recognize a US GC as special case. though, some countries do give entry
priveleges to GC holders. so, what ever applies to anybody holding a
passport from your same country will apply to you when trying to enter
a country.
some of the exceptions i know of who give GC privileges:

1. US territories (Puerto Rico ..) no visa required (local trip)
2. Canada and Mexico
3. Switzerland (not sure if all countries are ok)

some countries that have reversed situation:

1. Cuba. i never tried it since US has an embargo on trvelling there.
some passports could be able to get to it but US passprt can not
2. Brazil. all US passprt holders need a visa. my country does not
(because US requires visa on brazilians and brazil replies with the
same)

if you want to make sure, visit www.embassyworld.com and browse
countries you are interested in. you will get to the requirements. lots
of them exempt GC from certain countries from vidsa requirement.

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