vwp or visa, again!
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vwp or visa, again!
I had great help on the canadian part of this forum so i thought i'd try the US side!
I was convicted for criminal damage in 1988 and was fined £150, i travelled to the usa in 2000 and as i had been arrested i applied for and got a 10 year tourist visa.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
So the question is should i apply for an esta or bite the bullet and apply for another visa?
Thanks,any help is gratefully accepted!
I was convicted for criminal damage in 1988 and was fined £150, i travelled to the usa in 2000 and as i had been arrested i applied for and got a 10 year tourist visa.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
So the question is should i apply for an esta or bite the bullet and apply for another visa?
Thanks,any help is gratefully accepted!
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
I had great help on the canadian part of this forum so i thought i'd try the US side!
I was convicted for criminal damage in 1988 and was fined £150, i travelled to the usa in 2000 and as i had been arrested i applied for and got a 10 year tourist visa.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
So the question is should i apply for an esta or bite the bullet and apply for another visa?
Thanks,any help is gratefully accepted!
I was convicted for criminal damage in 1988 and was fined £150, i travelled to the usa in 2000 and as i had been arrested i applied for and got a 10 year tourist visa.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
So the question is should i apply for an esta or bite the bullet and apply for another visa?
Thanks,any help is gratefully accepted!
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
I I was convicted for criminal damage in 1988 and was fined £150, i travelled to the usa in 2000 and as i had been arrested i applied for and got a 10 year tourist visa.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
I intend to travel to the usa again soon but have read on this site that criminal damage is not a crime involving moral turptitude.
So the question is should i apply for an esta or bite the bullet and apply for another visa?
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
When i applied for the tourist visa in 2000 i thought you had to have a visa if you had ever been arrested,its only after glancing at this site that i discovered the whole moral turptitude situation.
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
So when you applied for the tourist visa back in 2000, did you at that time think the crime was a CIMT? And that's why you applied for the visa?
If the crime truly is not a CIMT, then you don't need a visa. Just make sure (from a legal standpoint) whether the crime is or is not a CIMT (don't take a laymen's word for it on this forum).
Rene
If the crime truly is not a CIMT, then you don't need a visa. Just make sure (from a legal standpoint) whether the crime is or is not a CIMT (don't take a laymen's word for it on this forum).
Rene
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86942.pdf
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
Reading through the attatched us embassy notes i think criminal damage of property is not a cimt,think i'll give an esta a try and see how i get on,thanks for the advice.
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
I have recently been issued a 10 yr ME visa with a non CMT conviction.
At the interview I asked whether I would need another visa when this one runs out and was told I would
At the interview I asked whether I would need another visa when this one runs out and was told I would
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
- every case is different
- the information that you were given may or may not be correct and, in any case, only pertains to your specific situation
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Re: vwp or visa, again!
1. This is a discussion forum
2. Recent experience of a similar situation may be of help.
Guess I'll crawl back under my stone
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Trouble is, in this kind of situation, every case does have the potential to vary by a huge amount. Useful to have another statistic though, even if it's hard to compare.
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I did not intend to suggest that you should not post about your own experience.
The problem, however, is that you really have no idea how similar or different your experience is to that of the OP and I was concerned that the OP who, like you, is very new to this forum might assume that what you were told would necessarily also apply to them.
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Seems to me the notion of 'once a visa, always a visa' might be a sensible option. Immigration are very likely to have records that previous travel was under a visa and I would imagine a VWP entry could be viewed with suspicion.
Hope OP comes back to us with ESTA result
Hope OP comes back to us with ESTA result