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Old May 6th 2011, 5:04 pm
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I was refer to this site by immigrate2us. I just have a few question to ask. I wanted to visit UK, I'm living in the US right now (green card holder), i was living in the US before illegally and was detained for 3 weeks, i left through voluntary departure and was able to come back legally after filing a waiver. Now i wanted to visit some friends in London,My question is in the visa application it was asking if was i deported or removed from any country, is voluntary departure counted as deportation or removal? should i answered the question yes or no? and they wanted my fingerprint scanned, will it show that i was detained before for immigration in the US?

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Originally Posted by sunshine1234
Hi everyone!
I was refer to this site by immigrate2us. I just have a few question to ask. I wanted to visit UK, I'm living in the US right now (green card holder), i was living in the US before illegally and was detained for 3 weeks, i left through voluntary departure and was able to come back legally after filing a waiver. Now i wanted to visit some friends in London,My question is in the visa application it was asking if was i deported or removed from any country, is voluntary departure counted as deportation or removal? should i answered the question yes or no? and they wanted my fingerprint scanned, will it show that i was detained before for immigration in the US?

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Welcome to the Forum I will move this to a more appropriate forum section " US Immigration and Visas" where we have some very knowledgable members.

meauxna , Noorah101 , Bob , MsElui are the Moderators over there and Kaffy Mintcake is the Concierge should you get any issues give one of them a shout.

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A little confused, can you clarify some things:

- what is your citizenship and current status in the US?

- what visa are you applying for, to enter which country?
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A little confused, can you clarify some things:

- what is your citizenship and current status in the US?

- what visa are you applying for, to enter which country?
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If you are a green card holder, you shouldn't be applying for a US visa since the green card is your document to enter the US.
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It reads to me as if the person thinks they need a visa to visit the UK.

THAT application is asking if he's ever been removed/deported from ANY country, and he had a VD from the US. He wants to know if that counts as deportation.

Whether it does or does not I don't know, but the fact that it was overcome with a waiver and that he's now a US PR should have a positive difference on the outcome.
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Default Re: Is is voluntary departure counted as deportation or removal?

VD is not a UK immigration option so the answer is no.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
VD is not a UK immigration option so the answer is no.
It shouldn't matter if it is a UK term or not, the question is, Is VD = Removal or Deportation?

I think the answer is no but I'm no expert. OP may want to read this memo: http://www.justice.gov/eoir/press/04...romRemoval.htm to understand some terms.
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Originally Posted by meauxna
It shouldn't matter if it is a UK term or not, the question is, Is VD = Removal or Deportation.
It's not. Sometimes during a removal hearing the judge will give the option of Voluntary Departure instead of removal. (I don't believe the term Deportation is used anymore, but i'm not an attorney so I could be wrong)

Anyway, the point of granting voluntary departure is that the alien agrees to depart voluntarily, at his/her own expense by a date set by the judge - and avoid the added penalties that comes with a formal removal.

I'm sure there is more to it, but that's basically my layman's Cliff's Notes on the subject.
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She (I think) was not deported or removed. So the answer would be no.

The form does not mention illegal status which would be a yes.
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Thank you Boiler : )
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