Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
- Get all the information and paperwork you need
- Make a visa application
- Answer all their questions fully and honestly (both on the application and at the interview)
- DO NOT elaborate or tell them details of anything that they haven't specifically asked you about
- Hope for the best
- If approved, great. If not, try again in a few years time
#32
Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
- Get all the information and paperwork you need
- Make a visa application
- Answer all their questions fully and honestly (both on the application and at the interview)
- DO NOT elaborate or tell them details of anything that they haven't specifically asked you about
- Hope for the best
- If approved, great. If not, try again in a few years time
#33
Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Understandable. So they want to know about all family, even if you don't really know them that well and any other blood relations that I'm aware of? I'm going to struggle with that, as I have distant family but don't know them. We lived far away from them growing up and lived nearer my mother's family, who have all passed away now.
My point is, we very rarely see or even hear off each other and my friends family (I hate to say it) are more of a family than the remaining relations of my family.
My point is, we very rarely see or even hear off each other and my friends family (I hate to say it) are more of a family than the remaining relations of my family.
US immigration doesn't care about distant cousins you've never seen or who you haven't seen in years. They are interested in your immediate relatives.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
It makes no difference whether you see them or not. The fact is, they are your family. I have a brother I haven't seen since December 2008 and likely will never see again. Is he still my brother for immigration purposes? Yes. Yes he is,
US immigration doesn't care about distant cousins you've never seen or who you haven't seen in years. They are interested in your immediate relatives.
US immigration doesn't care about distant cousins you've never seen or who you haven't seen in years. They are interested in your immediate relatives.
Thanks for your comment.
No harm in just trying I guess.
Somebody on another forum just sent me this....
Ihttps://www.express.co.uk/travel/art...e-on-esta-form
It's dated three years ago and it's probably not even correct.
But it mentions that if the time of five years or more have elapsed then it isn't considered to be Moral Turpitude?
#35
Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Yeah that isn't correct. Even if it was 50 years ago, a CIMT is a CIMT and needs to be declared.
You're just far far more likely to be recommended for a waiver if you've kept your nose clean for 5 years then if it happened 2 weeks ago.
If this 'other forum' is Visa Journey, please ignore them. That site is full of misinformation passed off as fact.
You're just far far more likely to be recommended for a waiver if you've kept your nose clean for 5 years then if it happened 2 weeks ago.
If this 'other forum' is Visa Journey, please ignore them. That site is full of misinformation passed off as fact.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Yeah that isn't correct. Even if it was 50 years ago, a CIMT is a CIMT and needs to be declared.
You're just far far more likely to be recommended for a waiver if you've kept your nose clean for 5 years then if it happened 2 weeks ago.
If this 'other forum' is Visa Journey, please ignore them. That site is full of misinformation passed off as fact.
You're just far far more likely to be recommended for a waiver if you've kept your nose clean for 5 years then if it happened 2 weeks ago.
If this 'other forum' is Visa Journey, please ignore them. That site is full of misinformation passed off as fact.
Infact it was another forum, but the person who private messaged me said that they found the link from Visa Journey 😂
Once again Thankyou for clearing that up.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Civilservant, Here you go the article you call rubbish is highlighted below. I suggest you read the article very carefully and slowly before making comments that are unfounded...…………….A waiver is available only if
- the alien is the spouse, parent, son, or daughter of a US citizen or lawful permanent resident and denial of an immigrant visa and admission to the US would result in extreme hardship to the US citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent, son, or daughter of the alien; or
- the activities for which the alien is inadmissible occurred more than 15 years before the date of the application for a visa, admission to the US or adjustment of status, and the alien’s admission would not be contrary to the national welfare, safety, or security of the US, and the alien has been rehabilitated.
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- Criminal and Related Grounds:
- Waivers are available to aliens otherwise ineligible by reason of criminal and related grounds, as follows:
- Aliens convicted of, or who admit the essential elements of, crimes of moral turpitude (except for murder or criminal acts involving torture and attempts or conspiracy to commit either);
- Aliens ineligible due to the commission of more than one crime;
- Aliens ineligible for prostitution; and
- Aliens convicted of a single offence of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana.
#38
Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Just apply for the visa. You won’t know until you do and the quicker you apply, the quicker you will know whether you can go to the US for Christmas. Do it now!!
#39
Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Civilservant, Here you go the article you call rubbish is highlighted below. I suggest you read the article very carefully and slowly before making comments that are unfounded...
You shouldn't be mentioning articles anyway, the only relevant law is in the INA. I can assure you, there is no trash about '15 years' in it in relation to a waiver of the criminal record/good moral character requirement.
You appear to be talking about the 'extreme hardship' waiver. Which is entirely separate from that being discussed here, and is not recommended by an officer at any point. It's a speculative application which almost never succeeds.
Last edited by civilservant; Aug 13th 2019 at 11:22 am.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Care to actually link the 'article' that you talk about?
You shouldn't be mentioning articles anyway, the only relevant law is in the INA. I can assure you, there is no trash about '15 years' in it in relation to a waiver of the criminal record/good moral character requirement.
You appear to be talking about the 'extreme hardship' waiver. Which is entirely separate from that being discussed here, and is not recommended by an officer at any point. It's a speculative application which almost never succeeds.
You shouldn't be mentioning articles anyway, the only relevant law is in the INA. I can assure you, there is no trash about '15 years' in it in relation to a waiver of the criminal record/good moral character requirement.
You appear to be talking about the 'extreme hardship' waiver. Which is entirely separate from that being discussed here, and is not recommended by an officer at any point. It's a speculative application which almost never succeeds.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Dear Materialcontroller,
Thank you. You are absolutely correct in your assumption, thank you for clearing that up. I was referring to an immigrant visa as Fireant has also referred to possibility of a K1 Visa. If he were to apply for the K1 visa, at this juncture, it will be declined, on the assumption that he does not qualify for a 'petty offence' exception. I have highlighted the grounds under which one can qualify for a waiver for an immigrant visa. One is Hardship and the other is passage of time, which is 15 years from the date of last conviction before applying for an immigrant visa (DS260), which once declined requires 1-601 to be completed and approved.
Thank you. You are absolutely correct in your assumption, thank you for clearing that up. I was referring to an immigrant visa as Fireant has also referred to possibility of a K1 Visa. If he were to apply for the K1 visa, at this juncture, it will be declined, on the assumption that he does not qualify for a 'petty offence' exception. I have highlighted the grounds under which one can qualify for a waiver for an immigrant visa. One is Hardship and the other is passage of time, which is 15 years from the date of last conviction before applying for an immigrant visa (DS260), which once declined requires 1-601 to be completed and approved.
- Immigrant Visas:
- Waivers for immigrant visas are limited to certain grounds of ineligibility and are often available only if the ineligible alien has a qualifying US citizen or lawful permanent resident relative. A waiver may be granted by DHS, without the requirement of a recommendation by a consular officer or the Secretary of State, for the following grounds:
- Health-Related Grounds:
- A waiver of inadmissibility may be granted to an alien determined ineligible for a visa and inadmissible to the U.S. if found to have a communicable disease of public health significance, if the alien is the spouse, unmarried son or daughter or the minor unmarried lawfully adopted child of a US citizen, lawful permanent resident, or a person issued an immigrant visa. A waiver for an immigrant visa is available in certain limited circumstances for aliens found ineligible for having, or for having had, a physical or mental disorder and associated harmful behaviour. A waiver for an immigrant visa is not available for drug users and addicts.
- Criminal and Related Grounds:
- Waivers are available to aliens otherwise ineligible by reason of criminal and related grounds, as follows:
- Aliens convicted of, or who admit the essential elements of, crimes of moral turpitude (except for murder or criminal acts involving torture and attempts or conspiracy to commit either);
- Aliens ineligible due to the commission of more than one crime;
- Aliens ineligible for prostitution; and
- Aliens convicted of a single offence of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana.
- the alien is the spouse, parent, son, or daughter of a US citizen or lawful permanent resident and denial of an immigrant visa and admission to the US would result in extreme hardship to the US citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent, son, or daughter of the alien; or
- the activities for which the alien is inadmissible occurred more than 15 years before the date of the application for a visa, admission to the US or adjustment of status, and the alien’s admission would not be contrary to the national welfare, safety, or security of the US, and the alien has been rehabilitated.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
Fireant, you need to be aware that if and when you do get your non immigrant visa/waiver, and on the assumption that you get married, you will need to wait at least 15 years from the date of your last conviction i.e. theft charge as it is CIMT, before you will qualify for a Wavier for an Immigrant Visa. This will then enable you to move to the US. I am making this comment as I am currently going through this process. This is on the assumption that you do not qualify for the petty offence exemption.
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Re: Visiting my girlfriend in the US with a UK criminal record.
There is no 15 year wait.
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The way I read nelson2's earlier post, it was outlining the hypothetical steps that would be required in the event of the OP getting married and seeking an immigrant visa waiver (which would require proving extreme hardship to the USC spouse); not the NIV waiver process that is forming the main part of the discussion.
And he still hasn't posted this article that he's getting this information from.