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Old Apr 16th 2013, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by luke433
When I was charged I actually got GBH without intent .. But it only says GBH on my police record ..?? Also when I go back for the interview will they ask me the same as they did before ? My first interview was just basically them asking what happened to get my record .. They never asked me about anything else at all .. They didn't even want to look at my job contract or anything that I had brought with me to show them . Is this normal ?
Yes, all of that is perfectly normal.

It seems to me, as I've already pointed out, that your offence is viewed very seriously indeed (rightly or wrongly) and therefore the question of your rehabilitation is being scrutinised rather heavily. Hence why the interviewing officer mainly concentrated on exploring your offending and possibly why your visa application was denied. You can expect the same angle of questioning at any subsequent interview.

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Old Apr 16th 2013, 9:33 am
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ok i see , well thanks for your help, but what i couldnt understand is why they were asking me why it happened and how it happened .. surely they can just find out the activities of the offence through the police ? and find out what happened?
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Old Apr 16th 2013, 9:41 am
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You are the visa applicant. They want to see what you have to say for yourself with regard to the incident. Would you really want them to depend on how someone else describes the incident and not give you an opportunity to explain your actions?

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what i couldnt understand is why they were asking me why it happened and how it happened .. surely they can just find out the activities of the offence through the police ? and find out what happened?
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Old Apr 16th 2013, 9:44 am
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i see , i just thought they would of got hold of the statements from the police ?
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Old Apr 16th 2013, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by luke433
i see , i just thought they would of got hold of the statements from the police ?
The US authorities are trying to get a picture of what sort of person you are. Part of the reason for that is to gauge whether you can be trusted to behave yourself if they allow you into their country. They want to be satisfied that you are truly rehabilitated and aren't likely to commit further offences on their soil and against their people.

So they'll ask you to explain how and why you got caught up in the offending and how you felt about it. They might ask you questions about where you live and who you hang around with. They'll want to know if you've changed things about yourself and your life in the period since the offending.

It's all part of building up an idea of your personality.
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Originally Posted by hungryhorace
You mean a single offence INVOLVING a CIMT is treated differently; under the petty offence exception.
Yeap! I think that is the case, but others more knowledgeable than me can discuss it for the benefit of the op.
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Old Apr 17th 2013, 6:27 am
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Well thank you all for your help and advice .. I'm going to re apply again next January so that will be 2 years since my first refusal .. Ill let you all know how it goes ..

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Originally Posted by luke433
Well thank you all for ou help and advice .. I'm going to re apply again next January so that will be 2 years since my first refusal .. Ill let you all know how it goes ..

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Good luck to you.
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Old Apr 17th 2013, 8:41 am
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By the way -- "intent" can be a legal term of art in criminal law. Quite often, whether or not a particular crime is a CIMT will be determined by the language of intent in the particular statute. For example, in assault, "general intent" does not a CIMT make. However, words like "willfully" or "maliciously" probably do.

Although not involving a CIMT, John Lennon famously beat back the bar imposed by a UK conviction for possession of hashish -- at the time, UK law was strict liability.
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Originally Posted by materialcontroller
Maximum sentence for this offence under UK law seems to be 5 years imprisonment: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/s...11_edition%29/

No idea how that would translate to an equivalent US indictment.
BTW, this discussion seems to indicate that the offense COULD be a CIMT under the "modified categorical approach" of Silva-Trevino.
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