US Immigration flow chart
Mar 30th 2010, 7:05 am
#16
Septic Sprout
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Location: Shanghai
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
I'm sure we all agree that it's essentially a political cartoon and a caricature of the real system. It skips the lottery, refugees, asylees which account for about 100,000 immigrants each year.
It grossly inflates the time frame and qualifications needed for a work visa.
It's just more politcally motivated tripe.
It grossly inflates the time frame and qualifications needed for a work visa.
It's just more politcally motivated tripe.
Mar 30th 2010, 7:17 am
#17
Septicity
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 23,762
Re: US Immigration flow chart
It certainly is politically motivated. It has presumably been written in a simplified form as a counterbalance to the, "What don't you understand about the word illegal?" "They're criminals!" "Why don't they just get legal like everyone else had to?" and "The Democrats want their votes!" Tea Party-types to try to show them that many of their arguments are simply wrong. I agree its tripe as as you'd be better off throwing them peanuts or writing a C&W song to get your point across. But at least they made an effort to explain.
Mar 30th 2010, 7:29 am
#18
Instigator of the Post
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
Priceless!!!
Mar 30th 2010, 7:31 am
#19
American Expat
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
Re: US Immigration flow chart
It certainly is politically motivated. It has presumably been written in a simplified form as a counterbalance to the, "What don't you understand about the word illegal?" "They're criminals!" "Why don't they just get legal like everyone else had to?" and "The Democrats want their votes!" Tea Party-types to try to show them that many of their arguments are simply wrong. I agree its tripe as as you'd be better off throwing them peanuts or writing a C&W song to get your point across. But at least they made an effort to explain.
They can't have it both ways.
Mar 30th 2010, 7:33 am
#20
Septicity
Joined: May 2004
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
Out of one side of their mouth they claim there are really no legal avenues for people. Out of the other side of their mouth, when someone is caught out of status in the US and about to be removed, they claim "they're not illegal, they just have to sort out a little problem with their visa".
They can't have it both ways.
They can't have it both ways.
Mar 30th 2010, 9:16 am
#21
American Expat
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
I don't oppose normalizing some of the people that are here if they can fix the system so we don't have the same provlem again in 5 to 10 years. I don't know if it should be a "path to citizenship" for all. They should have to waive the opportunity to petition for people for a period of years or there will be an unstoppable torrent of chain migration.
Could you imagine if 5 years from now 12 million new citizens petition for all of their aging parents? The health care system could not handle the strain.
Could you imagine if 5 years from now 12 million new citizens petition for all of their aging parents? The health care system could not handle the strain.
Mar 30th 2010, 9:27 am
#22
Septicity
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 23,762
Re: US Immigration flow chart
I don't oppose normalizing some of the people that are here if they can fix the system so we don't have the same provlem again in 5 to 10 years. I don't know if it should be a "path to citizenship" for all. They should have to waive the opportunity to petition for people for a period of years or there will be an unstoppable torrent of chain migration.
Could you imagine if 5 years from now 12 million new citizens petition for all of their aging parents? The health care system could not handle the strain.
Could you imagine if 5 years from now 12 million new citizens petition for all of their aging parents? The health care system could not handle the strain.
Yep -- some of the family sponsorship categories need removing. Hopefully the new bill will do it -- or maybe we'll end up with a half-cooked bill like the health care one because nobody can get anything done with angry tea party persons making the loudest noise.
Mar 30th 2010, 5:19 pm
#23
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
This is ace
Mar 30th 2010, 5:43 pm
#24
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Joined: Mar 2004
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Re: US Immigration flow chart
Under the last proposed "blue card", it would have been 1.5 to 2 decades to citizenship by my calculations.
Yep -- some of the family sponsorship categories need removing. Hopefully the new bill will do it -- or maybe we'll end up with a half-cooked bill like the health care one because nobody can get anything done with angry tea party persons making the loudest noise.
Yep -- some of the family sponsorship categories need removing. Hopefully the new bill will do it -- or maybe we'll end up with a half-cooked bill like the health care one because nobody can get anything done with angry tea party persons making the loudest noise.
