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Originally Posted by queeniequick
What is the J-1?
https://j1visa.state.gov/basics/

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I see. I’m not sure this is an option for me. But thank you so much.
Any links/advice for the EB2?
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Originally Posted by queeniequick
Having looked on H1B Visa : British Expat Wiki it also mentions the EB2 for Masters level work... any thoughts on this? I am PhD qualified in 2 years.
If you find an employer that wants to keep you, this is the route through which they would sponsor your green card. It is neither a short nor cheap process, but very common for ongoing faculty positions (it's what I got ). Most of the time, the applicant is already in-country on a non-immigrant work visa (e.g., uncapped H-1B). The employer files a petition to keep you (I-140); after this is approved, you apply for an Adjustment of Status (AOS) to permanent resident. The rest of your family will be able to adjust status to permanent residents along with you; the catch is that they are stuck on dependent visas beforehand and H-4 holders can't work.

It is unusual, but possible, for an EB-2 petition to proceed while you are still abroad, in which case your employer would be sponsoring you for an immigrant visa (permanent resident upon arrival). This option tips in favour of the recipient, in that you (and the family) would be admitted as permanent residents from day 1, but it is very slow and poses a great risk to the employer (you could leave right away!). I would rate your chances of finding an employer willing to go this route slim-to-none.

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What is the J-1?
The J-1 is a visiting scholar visa. Its main use in academia is for temporary positions (postdocs) or visitors (sabbatical). A J-1 essentially never leads to an employment-based green card, as they are for a temporary jobs, while a GC requires ongoing employment.

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As for my son, yes, his health needs are a consideration.
I’m concerned about the status of my children on any of these visa options when they reach 21. Any thoughts on that too please?
Honestly, I would set aside all visa questions until you can be satisfied that your son's needs would be met in your location of choice. This whole thing may be a non-starter.
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Originally Posted by queeniequick
I see. I’m not sure this is an option for me. But thank you so much.
Any links/advice for the EB2?
https://www.uscis.gov/working-united...reference-eb-2

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Honestly, I would set aside all visa questions until you can be satisfied that your son's needs would be met in your location of choice. This whole thing may be a non-starter.
And the OP shouldn't forget that, on the H-1B, the child who is training to be a hairdresser would also be unable to work.
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If you find an employer that wants to keep you, this is the route through which they would sponsor your green card. It is neither a short nor cheap process, but very common for ongoing faculty positions (it's what I got ). Most of the time, the applicant is already in-country on a non-immigrant work visa (e.g., uncapped H-1B). The employer files a petition to keep you (I-140); after this is approved, you apply for an Adjustment of Status (AOS) to permanent resident. The rest of your family will be able to adjust status to permanent residents along with you; the catch is that they are stuck on dependent visas beforehand and H-4 holders can't work.

It is unusual, but possible, for an EB-2 petition to proceed while you are still abroad, in which case your employer would be sponsoring you for an immigrant visa (permanent resident upon arrival). This option tips in favour of the recipient, in that you (and the family) would be admitted as permanent residents from day 1, but it is very slow and poses a great risk to the employer (you could leave right away!). I would rate your chances of finding an employer willing to go this route slim-to-none.



The J-1 is a visiting scholar visa. Its main use in academia is for temporary positions (postdocs) or visitors (sabbatical). A J-1 essentially never leads to an employment-based green card, as they are for a temporary jobs, while a GC requires ongoing employment.



Honestly, I would set aside all visa questions until you can be satisfied that your son's needs would be met in your location of choice. This whole thing may be a non-starter.
This is super helpful, Retzie, THANK YOU 🙏🏼
The HB1 uncapped sounds like a plan, with view for employer to engage a green card for me prior to my children reaching age 21. This would allow me to then sponsor them to stay.
The EB2 sounds nice but unlikely. The J1 doesn’t fit.

On the HB1, it’s not a problem to have spouse and kids not working provided I can earn enough for us all to live.
Eldest son with health needs may not join us anyway, but if he did, his only health need is receiving regular prescription medication. I shouldn’t imagine that would be an issue?

Now to get a JOB!
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The HB1 uncapped sounds like a plan, with view for employer to engage a green card for me prior to my children reaching age 21. This would allow me to then sponsor them to stay.
YOU don't sponsor them to stay. They would be included in the family's green card applications.

Eldest son with health needs may not join us anyway, but if he did, his only health need is receiving regular prescription medication. I shouldn’t imagine that would be an issue?
Not an issue in receiving, just perhaps in cost. Depends on the employer's health insurance plan. There would be doctor visits involved in obtaining the prescription(s). And of course the cost of the medication. Above and beyond the insurance premiums.

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but if he did, his only health need is receiving regular prescription medication. I shouldn’t imagine that would be an issue?
Depends on the cost, drugs are much more expensive here. No 'one size fits all' prescription fee.
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
YOU don't sponsor them to stay. They would be included in the family's green card applications.


Not an issue in receiving, just perhaps in cost. Depends on the employer's health insurance plan. There would be doctor visits involved in obtaining the prescription(s). And of course the cost of the medication. Above and beyond the insurance premiums.

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Corrected on both points, yes. Thank you for the clarification.
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Now to get a JOB!
Ha, well that's the really tricky bit...

If you are two years away from PhD, now is a good time to start planning. The academic job market varies a LOT by field, so you should start by talking to your supervisor and people in your group about opportunities over here. Unfortunately, your field may not offer permanent opportunities straight out of grad school; instead, you may be expected to complete 1, 2, 3 (more...) postdocs before you would be considered for a tenure-track position. In this case, you would have absolutely no choice about visa - it would be J-1 all the way. (On the plus side, your spouse would be eligible to work on a J-2.)

The other HUGE factor to consider is that the academic job market is usually so competitive that you will often have little choice in where you live. So, potentially 3 postdocs, none of which are in places you like in the slightest... And when/if you do get a permanent job, there's a good chance that won't be anywhere you like either...

Ermmm, yeah. Visas are really not so bad in comparison

You should also look into whether you could move into industry. Visas are not so much harder you should rule it out, especially with substantial qualifications. The easiest avenue would be to start working for a company with a US presence, then aim to transfer down the line.

As for your son's needs: If he really just needs medication, that may not be a show-stopper. But does he need regular attention from a specialist? (Note: treatment protocol may be very different here to the UK!) Have a search for some of user GeoffM's experiences with his child's needs. I'm not saying it will apply to your case, but you should definitely look into it.
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Originally Posted by retzie
Ha, well that's the really tricky bit...

If you are two years away from PhD, now is a good time to start planning. The academic job market varies a LOT by field, so you should start by talking to your supervisor and people in your group about opportunities over here. Unfortunately, your field may not offer permanent opportunities straight out of grad school; instead, you may be expected to complete 1, 2, 3 (more...) postdocs before you would be considered for a tenure-track position. In this case, you would have absolutely no choice about visa - it would be J-1 all the way. (On the plus side, your spouse would be eligible to work on a J-2.)

The other HUGE factor to consider is that the academic job market is usually so competitive that you will often have little choice in where you live. So, potentially 3 postdocs, none of which are in places you like in the slightest... And when/if you do get a permanent job, there's a good chance that won't be anywhere you like either...

Ermmm, yeah. Visas are really not so bad in comparison

You should also look into whether you could move into industry. Visas are not so much harder you should rule it out, especially with substantial qualifications. The easiest avenue would be to start working for a company with a US presence, then aim to transfer down the line.

As for your son's needs: If he really just needs medication, that may not be a show-stopper. But does he need regular attention from a specialist? (Note: treatment protocol may be very different here to the UK!) Have a search for some of user GeoffM's experiences with his child's needs. I'm not saying it will apply to your case, but you should definitely look into it.
Thanks so much again. If the market is anything like here I’ll be waiting a long time for tenure!!! I thought about high school teaching. I have a UK teaching qualification. Although I hear salaries are low. I thought this might give me more employment options in the location I’m aiming for. Nevada is notoriously understaffed with teachers.
As an ‘educational institute’ is assume the uncapped HB1 would apply?
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A high school is not going to spend (or be allowed to spend by it's board) $5k on hiring a foreign teacher. Can that idea!

Best you could hope for is a private school, and even then...
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A high school is not going to spend (or be allowed to spend by it's board) $5k on hiring a foreign teacher. Can that idea!

Best you could hope for is a private school, and even then...
The salaries are woeful. Seriously insulting, even. I looked up a prestigious private school - they have vacancies in a subject I could teach. The salary is low. I’m amazed they get staff at all!
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And the OP shouldn't forget that, on the H-1B, the child who is training to be a hairdresser would also be unable to work.
Got it. Thank you.
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Thanks so much again. If the market is anything like here I’ll be waiting a long time for tenure!!!
Nonetheless, it's worth asking around. At least in my field (maths), the US market is much more tractable than anywhere in Europe.


Originally Posted by queeniequick
I thought about high school teaching. I have a UK teaching qualification. Although I hear salaries are low. I thought this might give me more employment options in the location I’m aiming for. Nevada is notoriously understaffed with teachers.
I would categorically rule out school teaching in the US for the breadwinner/visa-getter. The understaffing is usually directly linked to awful pay and conditions (look up the press coverage of the recent Oklahoma strike). And as others have noted, schools will be very averse to spending money on hiring foreigners.


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As an ‘educational institute’ is assume the uncapped HB1 would apply?
Nope. So even if they have the cash, you will just hit the H-1B lottery wall.


Overall, I would say now is an excellent time to start talking through your options with people in your network. A PhD will make you more internationally mobile than you might otherwise have been, and you may well discover other options that haven't even occurred to you. Whatever the case, starting to map out the steps will help give some shape to your ideas
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