tracking canucks

Old Jun 25th 2002, 2:26 am
  #196  
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Without getting into details, I know that there are some companies, that pay the
same to whites and hispanics, and that the hispanics buy documents from American
Citizens, then go get a Driver's license, and use this DL with the social security
card, and apply for jobs. For some reason, there are certain companies that
"attract" these illegals.

Check out the I-9 forms. They're a joke. As long as you can fulfill the document
requirements, the employer CANNOT question your status unless they reasonably believe
that the documents do not belong to you (problem here is you have a DL or State
issued ID with the persons photo on it that was issued by the state ie. it's not
counterfeit) and they're using a GOOD ssa card to match.

Now, do the companies know this is going on? Perhaps and probably. But legally
they're covered.

"James Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
com
...
    > "BM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<p%OQ8.271858$352.25337@sccrnsc02>...
    > > This depends on why the employer is hiring the illegals. On one hand,
they
    > > may hire them because no LEGAL person wants the job.
    > That isn't the case.

The "That isn't the case" isn't always the case.

    > > If they're hiring to pay substandard wages and save money, then that's a
    > > different deal.
    > That usually is the case.
You use the word usually here. If you go by what you said in the first paragraph,
your response should have been "That is the case"

    > > Also, you all wouldn't believe the identity theft problems going on
right
    > > now in this country. If anyone if familiar with forms I-9, then it's
not
    > > hard for an employer to "cover" themselves against prosecution if they complete
    > > the form properly and the alien has the right paperwork.
    > Of course. All you need to show is a drivers license and social security card.
    > The employer doesn't even need to keep copies of them, and the i-9's can be
    > discarded after 3 years.

Yep.
 
Old Jun 25th 2002, 2:28 am
  #197  
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The law is the law. It's funny how we have a law, but then we say, we're not going
to enforce these laws. We'll make a "policy" that says this.

The "Democracy" is what made the law, that policy won't let us enforce to appease the
special interest groups.


"Ken Pisichko" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > BM wrote:
    > > Political pressure on the INS NOT to enforce these laws is the reason
that
    > > these laws are not enforced.
    > Are you thus saying that Democracy has it's down side(s)? It is STILL
better
    > (IMHO) than some of the alternatives......
    > Ken
    > >
    > >
    > > "AftonOkla" <[email protected]> wrote in message [url="news:20020618202941.219-[/q2]
[q2]> > [email protected]"]news:[email protected][/u-

    > > rl]...
    > > > >Most of the illegal aliens are either farm workers or domestics. We already
    > > > >have a visa category for seasonal agricultural workers and also for domestics
    > > > >and they are not being very much used at all.
Why?
    > > >
    > > > Because employers know that the law never fines them and is never even
    > > > enforced. Why would they go to the trouble? If the law were enforced
and
    > > these
    > > > employers were fined, jailed and had their assets forfeited, then they
    > > would
    > > > get the visas.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
 
Old Jun 25th 2002, 2:29 am
  #198  
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"Ken Pisichko" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > BM wrote:
    > > Yeah, and we do the dirty work they don't want to do on their own, ie. Somalia,
    > > Bosnia Etc.
    > You mean killing people? Civilains or War Lords? or... Please elaborate.

Yep, that's what I mean.


    > Is this a trait of USCs? I interpret this to mean "we".
    > Ken
    > >
    > > "AftonOkla" <[email protected]> wrote in message [url="news:20020618204525.219-[/q2]
[q2]> > [email protected]"]news:[email protected][/u-

    > > rl]...
    > > > >Run that by me again: when did the U.S. spill the blood of 12 million
    > > > >innocents, as Germany did in a rather short space of time? (Remember, the
    > > > >Jews were not the only ones; mental ly deficient persons and homosexuals and
    > > > >many others were
    > > >
    > > > The USA did not ever do this in the short time period Hitler did but
if
    > > you
    > > > look over time at perhaps 17 million dead Injuns, millions of dead
slaves
    > > and
    > > > millions of dead Mexicans, you see that the USA has not exactly been a
    > > hotbed
    > > > of compassion either.
    > > > >among the victims. Are you perhaps a Holocaust-denier?)
    > > >
    > > > No. The Holocaust happened and is a fact. But so did the Injun
Holocaust
    > > and
    > > > the Negro Halocaust and many others forever wiped from the history
    > > textbooks of
    > > > American schools.
    > > > >The U.S. could have ruled much of the world after WWII, and yet it not only
    > > > >did *not* insist on ruling, but poured money into rebuilding damaged countries
    > > > >destined to be fully independent. Your evidence of this purported goal of
    > > > >world domination is what?
    > > >
    > > > Yes, and to this day we are still there in military form pushing those
    > > > countries around (or at least the people in them). We do shit like
    > > "accidently"
    > > > roll tanks over houses and cars, blow up farmers and run jets into sky
car
    > > > cables and then we always say "oh well, sorry" to the survivors. This
is
    > > shit
    > > > we would not dare do in the country.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
 
Old Jun 25th 2002, 3:20 am
  #199  
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Without me doing all the research, anytime a large scale business problem exisits,
the US government bails the businesses out to "lessen" the effect on the country.
Look at Amtrak, Look at the Airline industry. This would be one of those hypocritical
deals where the Government would say "Get rid of all the snowbirds", then they'd bail
out all the businesses affected. Maybe it would happen. I was trying to be a
sarcastic smartass cause our government does stupid things sometimes.

"Ken Pisichko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    > BM wrote:
    >
    > > Yeah our government would just bail em out.
    > >
    >
    > Why do you say that? Are you a spokesperson for Uncle Sam?
    >
    > Ken
    >
    > >
    > > "Ken Pisichko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > James Donovan wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Ken Pisichko <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > > > James Donovan wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Ken Pisichko <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > > > > > James Donovan wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > > Like it or not, it is the same with letting people in
our
    > > country.
    > > > > > > > > > > You are a guest, you come for a certain period of time.
If
    > > you
    > > > > > > > > > > overstay, and we catch you, we send you back, and you
will
    > > not be
    > > > > > > > > > > allowed to return.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > But they *are* allowed to return.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > If you overstay more than 180 days I would like to see you
    > > return
    > > > > > > > > within a short period of time.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > But what if they keep spending money (as you noted in your
    > > previous paragraph)?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > What about when the money runs out? Don't tell me they could
work
    > > > > > > here, because Americans should have first preference for
American
    > > > > > > jobs. In Canada, Canadians have first preference for Canadian
Jobs.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > It helps catching them and banning them when they leave.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > They then cannot come back and spend the money.... You lose
on
    > > the money....
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > So what, a few dollars. Canadian money isn't worth squat
anyway.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just ask the USCs in the "American Sunbelt" how impoverished they
    > > would be if the snow birds did not
    > > > > > come next season with their money that "isn't worth squat".
    > > > >
    > > > > There are more USC's than Snow Birds in Florida.
    > > >
    > > > Of course there are. Just answer the question: what would happen to
the
    > > business in the sunbelt of the
    > > > Snow Birds did not come ........
    > > >
    > > > Remember what happened to business after 9-11 when people stopped
flying
    > > for a while.
    > > >
    > > > Just answer my question.
    > > >
    >
 
Old Jun 25th 2002, 9:19 pm
  #200  
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BM wrote:

    > What I"m saying is, at least they're not a citizen of Haiti or some other country
    > that's really bad. They should consider themselves lucky that they're being
    > deported back to their home country, which is Canada, not Haiti (haiti is just an
    > example, I think of other countries having really bad problems).
    > My point was, I DON'T feel sorry for Canadians who are deported back to Canada for
    > violating US law. I don't feel sorry for Haitians either, however, I can see why
    > the Haitians don't wanna go back to Haiti.

As I keep saying about Canada: "There are worse things in this world than high taxes
and cold weather".

Yes, the law of a country is for all to follow. I am quite happy when I am subject to
US laws (like on saturday when I was in North Dakota). Similarly, I am happy right
now being subject to the laws of Canada.

But then, I can talk. Life is pretty easy in both countries. No wonder folks want to
come to the USA (or even to Canada) where there are taxes and.....

I know I would not want to live in a developing country on a local salary/wage paid
in local currency. Sounds like the Haitians don't either....
 

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