Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
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Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Whole family are British passport holders and have been green card holders for four years. Now offered a job in Middle East. Options (I think) are
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Abandoning your green cards shouldn't cause problems with vacation travel. If you're not particularly attached to the idea of being able to live in the US in the future, I guess you need to try to predict whether the economy will implode worse/sooner in the Middle East vs the USA.
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Whole family are British passport holders and have been green card holders for four years. Now offered a job in Middle East. Options (I think) are
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Great thought but kids are all over 18 - I presume their resideency is determined both for green card and citizenship by their own movements. If we give up GC will they lose their GC - they have E10 status
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
If they are over 18, I strongly recommend that they seek US citizenship on their own right and stay in the US until they have been naturalized. They will also be able to sponsor their parents for a green card after turning 21, if necessary.
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Whole family are British passport holders and have been green card holders for four years. Now offered a job in Middle East. Options (I think) are
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
- Abandon PR in order to take advantage of "tax free" package in Middle East. I knwo in future none of us will get another green card but would it be easy to visit USA again and would we need a visa or just British passport
- Apply for citizenship at 5 year anniversary making sure we are not out of USA too much in our final (fifth) year. This would mean paying US taxes forever although I'm aware there is a reasonable Forien Credit as well as specific country double tax agreements
- What is best and am I missing options. I'm okay in not getting agreen card again but don't want my children to have difficulty in getting into USA in future years even if it is just on vacation - THANK YOU
If you take up the job now, and leave the United States, it's not clear that you will be able to get U.S. citizenship even if you want to. Consult with an attorney if this is important, to see how the process could be managed and if there are any work-arounds.
Your options are:
1. Try to hold on to your green cards, but unless you keep a U.S. residence and return to the U.S. every 6-12 months, it may be difficult to do so long term. In addition, you're subject to U.S. federal (and possibly state) taxation and if you're in the Middle East, this will significantly impact your net income.
2. If you abandon your green cards, you can still visit the U.S. as a tourist later on - on the same basis as any other foreigner. As you have already said, you won't get your green cards back unless you qualify some other way.
If you see your future in the United States, your first priority should normally be to become U.S. citizens and then only then consider options to work in another country.
Or are you happy to return to the United Kingdom when your job in the Middle East is terminated.
Your children, if aged 18+, hold their green cards independently. Would you be happy in the situation arising if they remain in the U.S. and you are unable to live in the U.S. later on?
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
If that happened, the children could always petition for their parents as immediate relatives (once they turn 21).
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Re: Relinquish Green card or go for Citizenship
Not if immigration laws are changed in the meantime - which is something that has happened (more difficult parent migration) in other countries.