Quick N-400 question

Old Oct 5th 2004, 3:26 am
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Hello all. I'm applying for citizenship after having lived in the US
for about 30 years. I left the country twice, at the age of 9 and
again at the age of 14, about 2 months each time. Both of these trips
were over 20 years ago. I don't have contact with my parents any
longer, so I cannot verify the exact exit and entry dates. How would
one proceed here? TIA for any help.
 
Old Oct 5th 2004, 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by Tony
Hello all. I'm applying for citizenship after having lived in the US for about 30 years. I left the country twice, at the age of 9 and
again at the age of 14, about 2 months each time. Both of these trips
were over 20 years ago. I don't have contact with my parents any
longer, so I cannot verify the exact exit and entry dates. How would
one proceed here? TIA for any help.
You only need to list the trips in the last 5 years. Don't worry about those 20 years ago.
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Old Oct 5th 2004, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by n400la
You only need to list the trips in the last 5 years. Don't worry about those 20 years ago.
No, that's not true. If you look at the N-400 form, you are required to list ALL trips SINCE becoming a Permanent Resident. Ignoring some information is considered fraud.
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Old Oct 6th 2004, 12:16 am
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In article <[email protected]> ,
cgiz <member28222@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> You only need to list the trips in the last 5 years. Don't worry about
    >> those 20 years ago.
    >No, that's not true. If you look at the N-400 form, you are required to
    >list ALL trips SINCE becoming a Permanent Resident. Ignoring some
    >information is considered fraud.

Mmmm. I took me some hours to piece together what past trips I might
have had, then calculate how many days each was, especially given that
one's passport sometimes isn't stamped at all and is sometimes stamped
with the wrong date.

-- Mark
 
Old Oct 12th 2004, 2:50 am
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Mark Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<1dw*[email protected]>...
    > In article <[email protected]> ,
    > cgiz <member28222@british_expats.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> You only need to list the trips in the last 5 years. Don't worry about
    > >> those 20 years ago.
    > >
    > >No, that's not true. If you look at the N-400 form, you are required to
    > >list ALL trips SINCE becoming a Permanent Resident. Ignoring some
    > >information is considered fraud.
    >
    > Mmmm. I took me some hours to piece together what past trips I might
    > have had, then calculate how many days each was, especially given that
    > one's passport sometimes isn't stamped at all and is sometimes stamped
    > with the wrong date.
    >
    > -- Mark

It doesn't look like there's a consensus on what might need to be done
here. I'd imagine that no fraud would be suspected in my case since I
simply don't have access to the required information. Thank you all
for the help. If anyone else has suggestions, I'm all ears.
 
Old Oct 13th 2004, 7:22 am
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Best answer is to be honest. List the two trips and the approx dates and explanation that dates are estimations based on memory.

They will not give you a problem about this simply because it was so long ago.

When my husband completed his N-400 he listed all trips to the best of his ability for all the years he was a resident.

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Old Oct 14th 2004, 3:00 pm
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I have filled out the N-400 form and try to prepare documents, but confused
by the Cocument Checklist from Form M-477 ( A Guide to Naturalization). The
checklist states that If you answer "Yes" to any of questions 1 through 15
in Part 7, send: A written explanation on a separate sheet of paper.
If you answer "No" to any of questions 1 through 5 in Part 8, send: A
written explanation on a separate sheet of paper.
However, I could not find question 1 -15 in Part 7 and questions 1 - 5 in
Part 8 in N-400 form. It seems that I only need a copy of Green Card, 2
photos, and a check (based on 5 year PR). Any idea?
Thanks!

Eddy
 
Old Oct 20th 2004, 4:36 pm
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"Fu-Chih Hsu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e3Hbd.242049$MQ5.195035@attbi_s52...
    >I have filled out the N-400 form and try to prepare documents, but confused
    >by the Cocument Checklist from Form M-477 ( A Guide to Naturalization).
    >The checklist states that If you answer "Yes" to any of questions 1 through
    >15 in Part 7, send: A written explanation on a separate sheet of paper.
    > If you answer "No" to any of questions 1 through 5 in Part 8, send: A
    > written explanation on a separate sheet of paper.
    > However, I could not find question 1 -15 in Part 7 and questions 1 - 5 in
    > Part 8 in N-400 form. It seems that I only need a copy of Green Card, 2
    > photos, and a check (based on 5 year PR). Any idea?
    > Thanks!
    > Eddy
Why don't you just follow the instructions and notes included in the N-400
form itself? They're all there and they are simple to follow.
 
Old Oct 27th 2004, 3:28 am
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Rete <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
    > > Mark Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:<1dw*[email protected]>...
    > > > In article <[email protected]> ,
    > > > cgiz <member28222@british_expats.com> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> You only need to list the trips in the last 5 years. Don't worry
    > > > >> about
    > > > >> those 20 years ago.
    > > > >
    > > > >No, that's not true. If you look at the N-400 form, you are
    > > > >required to
    > > > >list ALL trips SINCE becoming a Permanent Resident. Ignoring some
    > > > >information is considered fraud.
    > > >
    > > > Mmmm. I took me some hours to piece together what past trips I might
    > > > have had, then calculate how many days each was, especially
    > > > given that
    > > > one's passport sometimes isn't stamped at all and is sometimes
    > > > stamped
    > > > with the wrong date.
    > > >
    > > > -- Mark
    > >
    > > It doesn't look like there's a consensus on what might need to be done
    > > here. I'd imagine that no fraud would be suspected in my case since I
    > > simply don't have access to the required information. Thank you all
    > > for the help. If anyone else has suggestions, I'm all ears.
    >
    > Best answer is to be honest. List the two trips and the approx dates
    > and explanation that dates are estimations based on memory.
    >
    > They will not give you a problem about this simply because it was
    > so long ago.
    >
    > When my husband completed his N-400 he listed all trips to the best of
    > his ability for all the years he was a resident.
    >
    > Rete

Thank you for the response, Rete. I guess the best answers are always
the most simple, eh?
 

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