Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > USA > US Immigration, Citizenship and Visas
Reload this Page >

Problem with green card at citizenship test

Problem with green card at citizenship test

Old Oct 19th 2005, 5:55 am
  #1  
jimsocal
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Problem with green card at citizenship test

My wife goes in for her test soon, and I'm just wondering what is going
to happen due to some clerical problems with her permanent green card.
(yes, the permanenet one; there was never any problem with the
temporary one)

The clerical errors were threefold:
1) they got her name wrong (did not print her last name at all, wrote
in No Name Given on her permanent green card)(!!??)
2) they mixed up her birthdate month and day on the perm. green card
3) when we went back to fix the above at USCIS they said there was also
a discrepancy as to her father's name. That's because his FIRST name
was given different on her birth certificate than we put on her
application. We did not notice that on her b.c. it said his name was
Jorge but he always went by Pedro. So we put Pedro on her application
not realizing that it said Jorge on her b.c., so they said we'd have to
fix that when re-applying for a green card which we never did because
they told us that due to new regulations we'd have to totally re-apply
for the green card, pay another $90 or so dollars, and etc.. in order
to fix this clerical error.

All these seem very easy to fix by showing the birth certificate, but
USCIS made a big deal about it and refused to fix it unless we
re-applied for the green card. But never did they say her green card
was no good, in fact one person told us not to worry about it, and
indeed there was no problem using it for entry at the border. It is
obvious to anyone that these are clerical errors, and can be fixed just
by looking at the birth certificate, but USCIS makes everything as
difficult and complicated as possible.

Can all this be fixed at the time of her Citizenship test? Or should we
not even bring it up and hope they just slide her through the process
and give her citizenship? Opinions and info, please. I'm thinking we
should mention the name and birthdate problem (obviously), submit the
birth certificate again, but NOT mention the father's name problem and
hope they don't notice it.
 
Old Oct 21st 2005, 3:33 am
  #2  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 31
nathalie7777 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

Originally Posted by jimsocal
My wife goes in for her test soon, and I'm just wondering what is going
to happen due to some clerical problems with her permanent green card.
(yes, the permanenet one; there was never any problem with the
temporary one)

The clerical errors were threefold:
1) they got her name wrong (did not print her last name at all, wrote
in No Name Given on her permanent green card)(!!??)
2) they mixed up her birthdate month and day on the perm. green card
3) when we went back to fix the above at USCIS they said there was also
a discrepancy as to her father's name. That's because his FIRST name
was given different on her birth certificate than we put on her
application. We did not notice that on her b.c. it said his name was
Jorge but he always went by Pedro. So we put Pedro on her application
not realizing that it said Jorge on her b.c., so they said we'd have to
fix that when re-applying for a green card which we never did because
they told us that due to new regulations we'd have to totally re-apply
for the green card, pay another $90 or so dollars, and etc.. in order
to fix this clerical error.

All these seem very easy to fix by showing the birth certificate, but
USCIS made a big deal about it and refused to fix it unless we
re-applied for the green card. But never did they say her green card
was no good, in fact one person told us not to worry about it, and
indeed there was no problem using it for entry at the border. It is
obvious to anyone that these are clerical errors, and can be fixed just
by looking at the birth certificate, but USCIS makes everything as
difficult and complicated as possible.

Can all this be fixed at the time of her Citizenship test? Or should we
not even bring it up and hope they just slide her through the process
and give her citizenship? Opinions and info, please. I'm thinking we
should mention the name and birthdate problem (obviously), submit the
birth certificate again, but NOT mention the father's name problem and
hope they don't notice it.

Well that will be her time to change it. Why bother and change the permanent green card? If she passes the interview, they will ask her if she wants a name change. I am sure that should be no problem at all. She just needs to bring all the paperwork with her, like birth certificates etc....
nathalie7777 is offline  
Old Oct 21st 2005, 1:31 pm
  #3  
jimsocal
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

No, we dont' want to change anything, we just want her name right on
her citizenship paperwork. We just hope the green card problem does not
affect her ability to get her citizenship, ie; that they don't make a
big issue out of her dad's first name being "wrong" on the green card
app, and her green card saying "No Name Given" instead of her first
name. (Obvious to us the answer is "Because USCIS effed up!", but they
might take the stance that it is because we did not supply the proper
info, etc... even though that isn't true...)

Obviously they need to get her name and birthdate right on the
citizenship paperwork. As to the dad's name, we couldn't care less.

The issue is: Are they going to accept the official birth certificate
and make everything right, at that time, or are they going to say "No,
we can't make you a citizen until you straighten out why your green
card app says your father's name is Pedro when the b.c. says it is
Jorge..." The USCIS would NOT fix the whole thing on the green card
(even though it was THEIR clerical error!) without us paying more money
and re-applying for the removal of conditions! DUMB!
 
Old Oct 21st 2005, 7:06 pm
  #4  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 31
nathalie7777 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

Originally Posted by jimsocal
No, we dont' want to change anything, we just want her name right on
her citizenship paperwork. We just hope the green card problem does not
affect her ability to get her citizenship, ie; that they don't make a
big issue out of her dad's first name being "wrong" on the green card
app, and her green card saying "No Name Given" instead of her first
name. (Obvious to us the answer is "Because USCIS effed up!", but they
might take the stance that it is because we did not supply the proper
info, etc... even though that isn't true...)

Obviously they need to get her name and birthdate right on the
citizenship paperwork. As to the dad's name, we couldn't care less.

The issue is: Are they going to accept the official birth certificate
and make everything right, at that time, or are they going to say "No,
we can't make you a citizen until you straighten out why your green
card app says your father's name is Pedro when the b.c. says it is
Jorge..." The USCIS would NOT fix the whole thing on the green card
(even though it was THEIR clerical error!) without us paying more money
and re-applying for the removal of conditions! DUMB!
Ok, lets try this again. When she will have her interview, she should bring all the paperworks including the birth certificate of her dad i guess... I really don't see why this should be a problem at all. She has an A* PLUS fingerprints, believe me, they know who she is. So AGAIN; just have everything CORRECTED, at her interview... no big deal Smile
nathalie7777 is offline  
Old Oct 22nd 2005, 6:53 am
  #5  
JimSocal
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:06:40 +0000, nathalie7777
<member33929@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >> No, we dont' want to change anything, we just want her name right on
    >> her citizenship paperwork. We just hope the green card problem does
    >> not
    >> affect her ability to get her citizenship, ie; that they don't make a
    >> big issue out of her dad's first name being "wrong" on the green card
    >> app, and her green card saying "No Name Given" instead of her first
    >> name. (Obvious to us the answer is "Because USCIS effed up!", but they
    >> might take the stance that it is because we did not supply the proper
    >> info, etc... even though that isn't true...)
    >> Obviously they need to get her name and birthdate right on the
    >> citizenship paperwork. As to the dad's name, we couldn't care less.
    >> The issue is: Are they going to accept the official birth certificate
    >> and make everything right, at that time, or are they going to say "No,
    >> we can't make you a citizen until you straighten out why your green
    >> card app says your father's name is Pedro when the b.c. says it is
    >> Jorge..." The USCIS would NOT fix the whole thing on the green card
    >> (even though it was THEIR clerical error!) without us paying more
    >> money
    >> and re-applying for the removal of conditions! DUMB!
    >Ok, lets try this again. When she will have her interview, she should
    >bring all the paperworks including the birth certificate of her dad i
    >guess... I really don't see why this should be a problem at all. She has
    >an A* PLUS fingerprints, believe me, they know who she is. So AGAIN;
    >just have everything CORRECTED, at her interview... no big deal Smile
Thanks. Only problem is, we don't have her dad's birth certificate and
cannot get it. So I also don't see any reason why this should be a
problem. BUT I've already run into the USCIS office being total dicks
about things like this, so I'm twice bitten thrice shy, I guess. We'll
just take all the paperwork we have and hope it suffices.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2005, 7:20 pm
  #6  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 31
nathalie7777 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

Originally Posted by JimSocal
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:06:40 +0000, nathalie7777
<member33929@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >> No, we dont' want to change anything, we just want her name right on
    >> her citizenship paperwork. We just hope the green card problem does
    >> not
    >> affect her ability to get her citizenship, ie; that they don't make a
    >> big issue out of her dad's first name being "wrong" on the green card
    >> app, and her green card saying "No Name Given" instead of her first
    >> name. (Obvious to us the answer is "Because USCIS effed up!", but they
    >> might take the stance that it is because we did not supply the proper
    >> info, etc... even though that isn't true...)
    >> Obviously they need to get her name and birthdate right on the
    >> citizenship paperwork. As to the dad's name, we couldn't care less.
    >> The issue is: Are they going to accept the official birth certificate
    >> and make everything right, at that time, or are they going to say "No,
    >> we can't make you a citizen until you straighten out why your green
    >> card app says your father's name is Pedro when the b.c. says it is
    >> Jorge..." The USCIS would NOT fix the whole thing on the green card
    >> (even though it was THEIR clerical error!) without us paying more
    >> money
    >> and re-applying for the removal of conditions! DUMB!
    >Ok, lets try this again. When she will have her interview, she should
    >bring all the paperworks including the birth certificate of her dad i
    >guess... I really don't see why this should be a problem at all. She has
    >an A* PLUS fingerprints, believe me, they know who she is. So AGAIN;
    >just have everything CORRECTED, at her interview... no big deal Smile
Thanks. Only problem is, we don't have her dad's birth certificate and
cannot get it. So I also don't see any reason why this should be a
problem. BUT I've already run into the USCIS office being total dicks
about things like this, so I'm twice bitten thrice shy, I guess. We'll
just take all the paperwork we have and hope it suffices.
You should have no problems. Regardless if you have her father's birth certificate or not... But that is the right time to fix everything... at the interview
nathalie7777 is offline  
Old Oct 23rd 2005, 5:05 pm
  #7  
JimSocal
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:20:25 +0000, nathalie7777
<member33929@british_expats.com> wrote:


    >You should have no problems. Regardless if you have her father's birth
    >certificate or not... But that is the right time to fix everything... at
    >the interview
Thanks.
 
Old Oct 25th 2005, 9:24 am
  #8  
Ritze
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

What boggles me is why from the time of becoming an LPR to the time of
eligibility, which takes somewhere from 3 years to 5 years, these problems
were not yet corrected. Somebody here was being lazy or unconcerned for that
long and it's not totally USCIS fault.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
    > My wife goes in for her test soon, and I'm just wondering what is going
    > to happen due to some clerical problems with her permanent green card.
    > (yes, the permanenet one; there was never any problem with the
    > temporary one)
    > The clerical errors were threefold:
    > 1) they got her name wrong (did not print her last name at all, wrote
    > in No Name Given on her permanent green card)(!!??)
    > 2) they mixed up her birthdate month and day on the perm. green card
    > 3) when we went back to fix the above at USCIS they said there was also
    > a discrepancy as to her father's name. That's because his FIRST name
    > was given different on her birth certificate than we put on her
    > application. We did not notice that on her b.c. it said his name was
    > Jorge but he always went by Pedro. So we put Pedro on her application
    > not realizing that it said Jorge on her b.c., so they said we'd have to
    > fix that when re-applying for a green card which we never did because
    > they told us that due to new regulations we'd have to totally re-apply
    > for the green card, pay another $90 or so dollars, and etc.. in order
    > to fix this clerical error.
    > All these seem very easy to fix by showing the birth certificate, but
    > USCIS made a big deal about it and refused to fix it unless we
    > re-applied for the green card. But never did they say her green card
    > was no good, in fact one person told us not to worry about it, and
    > indeed there was no problem using it for entry at the border. It is
    > obvious to anyone that these are clerical errors, and can be fixed just
    > by looking at the birth certificate, but USCIS makes everything as
    > difficult and complicated as possible.
    > Can all this be fixed at the time of her Citizenship test? Or should we
    > not even bring it up and hope they just slide her through the process
    > and give her citizenship? Opinions and info, please. I'm thinking we
    > should mention the name and birthdate problem (obviously), submit the
    > birth certificate again, but NOT mention the father's name problem and
    > hope they don't notice it.
    >
 
Old Oct 25th 2005, 9:01 pm
  #9  
JimSocal
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Problem with green card at citizenship test

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:24:11 GMT, "Ritze" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What boggles me is why from the time of becoming an LPR to the time of
    >eligibility, which takes somewhere from 3 years to 5 years, these problems
    >were not yet corrected. Somebody here was being lazy or unconcerned for that
    >long and it's not totally USCIS fault.
So who's fault is it? Just so we're clear, here, the problem did not
exist the entire time. There was no problem until they sent us the
Permanent green card. Before that, they had her birthdate and name
correct. They HAD all the info in their files to correct the info, but
for some reason refuse to do it without us RE-SUBMITTING them, which
is just plain stupid. Something about "yes, you submitted them, but we
don't have them here in THIS office".. Well, duh! How about GETTING
them from the other office!? Why isn't all this stuff available via
computer/internet? If banks can handle all that info, why can't USCIS?
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.