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movida Jun 9th 2019 10:21 am
Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
I have a 5 year visa with waiver of ineligibility, this was granted last year and I’ve visited New York since with only a 20 minute delay or so on arrival. I’m interested to fly from Dublin as the taxes and surcharges for redeeming reward flights are far lower. The USA pre screening sounds good but I’m concerned. The reason being that if I flew from London and had to face a lengthy wait for my file to be looked at by a border officer in New York, I have the time to do so. My understanding is that doing this in Dublin happens after I’ve checked in for my flight and after duty free etc. So surely there is an extremely limited time frame, what if they held me up for an hour or more? I can only check in for my flight 2 hours before I think, so must I walk through all the shops and avoid them, plus the airport lounge that is part of my ticket, to go through US clearance and no turning back? How does this work?

sherbert Jun 9th 2019 12:13 pm
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Once you go through US immigration at Dublin there is no lounge: there's just a cafe and some seats as you wait for your US bound flight. I am unsure of the issue here though? Are you flying in from London and then on a separate ticket to the US or are you flying on one ticket via Dublin. Either way, you can check in online for both flights. If your travelling on one ticket, you'll already have your boarding pass for your second US flight. Either way, it would be in your best interests to ensure you have a long enough layover at Dublin (4-5 hours) so you can enjoy your shopping and have some time in the lounge (although the food's not that great and you probably don't want to load up on booze if you've got to go and haggle with immigration) and present yourself to immigration as soon as possible.

bc2015 Jun 9th 2019 2:54 pm
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by sherbert (Post 12695842)
Once you go through US immigration at Dublin there is no lounge
Small correction: there is now a lounge post pre-clearence

https://www.dublinairport.com/at-the...51st-and-green

movida Jun 9th 2019 7:30 pm
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by sherbert (Post 12695842)
Once you go through US immigration at Dublin there is no lounge: there's just a cafe and some seats as you wait for your US bound flight. I am unsure of the issue here though? Are you flying in from London and then on a separate ticket to the US or are you flying on one ticket via Dublin. Either way, you can check in online for both flights. If your travelling on one ticket, you'll already have your boarding pass for your second US flight. Either way, it would be in your best interests to ensure you have a long enough layover at Dublin (4-5 hours) so you can enjoy your shopping and have some time in the lounge (although the food's not that great and you probably don't want to load up on booze if you've got to go and haggle with immigration) and present yourself to immigration as soon as possible.
Thanks for your comprehensive response. I think you’re slightly misunderstanding my question though. As I have a visa and waiver of ineligibility (due to a minor conviction from c. 14 years ago) I have to be interviewed by a consular officer as per their procedure. My only experience of this was my first US visit in years last year thanks to this visa, thankfully the queue in the room I was taken to at JFK was tiny and I was seen within 20 mins and my ‘interview’ was about 45 seconds before I was stamped through.

Whilst I was lucky with a short wait then, my concern is I may miss the flight if held back for too long. Anyone else with a waiver of ineligibility gone through Dublin straight to the USA?

materialcontroller Jun 9th 2019 8:17 pm
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by movida (Post 12695895)


Thanks for your comprehensive response. I think you’re slightly misunderstanding my question though. As I have a visa and waiver of ineligibility (due to a minor conviction from c. 14 years ago) I have to be interviewed by a consular officer as per their procedure. My only experience of this was my first US visit in years last year thanks to this visa, thankfully the queue in the room I was taken to at JFK was tiny and I was seen within 20 mins and my ‘interview’ was about 45 seconds before I was stamped through.

Whilst I was lucky with a short wait then, my concern is I may miss the flight if held back for too long. Anyone else with a waiver of ineligibility gone through Dublin straight to the USA?
See my comments in the other thread. In my opinion, you have very little to worry about at DUB preclearance.

Rete Jun 10th 2019 12:28 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Frankly, it is doubtful that secondary at the Dublin airport will be crowded when you need to be cleared. At least 3/4's of your fellow passengers will be using the VWP and have no need to go to secondary for clearance and as your waiver has been used already, it is in the system and won't take long to be cleared.

I think you are worried for nothing and looking for issues that aren't there.

TheKingOfHearts Jun 10th 2019 6:37 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
It's unlikely you'll even need secondary; usually, once you've "activated" your visa and the first entry has been granted, so long as there are no notable changes, you'll usually just be waived through. At least that's what's been the case for a colleague of mine.

Besides that Rete is right, the amount of folks flying FROM Dublin to the US who'd need secondary screening has to be drastically lower than those flying INTO NYC that need secondary, I'd imagine you should be totally fine.

materialcontroller Jun 10th 2019 6:41 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by TheKingOfHearts (Post 12696153)
It's unlikely you'll even need secondary; usually, once you've "activated" your visa and the first entry has been granted, so long as there are no notable changes, you'll usually just be waived through. At least that's what's been the case for a colleague of mine.

Besides that Rete is right, the amount of folks flying FROM Dublin to the US who'd need secondary screening has to be drastically lower than those flying INTO NYC that need secondary, I'd imagine you should be totally fine.
Sorry, but this advice is incorrect.

The OP will always be sent to secondary on every visit.

TheKingOfHearts Jun 10th 2019 6:47 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 12696156)
Sorry, but this advice is incorrect.

The OP will always be sent to secondary on every visit.
All I can speak to is my colleagues experience where he was secondary on first entry and then never after that, he was even able to enroll in Global Entry. :nod:

materialcontroller Jun 10th 2019 6:50 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by TheKingOfHearts (Post 12696159)
All I can speak to is my colleagues experience where he was secondary on first entry and then never after that, he was even able to enroll in Global Entry. :nod:
Do you know whether his circumstances are even remotely similar to that of the OP?

scottyvisa Jun 11th 2019 5:13 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Flown via Dublin twice, went to secondary once and there was only two others in there. You can head to pre-clearance as soon as you get to Dublin, you don't need to wait until two hours before your flight. Give yourself a 3+ hour layover just to play it safe, but you'll be fine.

shiversaint Jun 12th 2019 2:09 am
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by Rete (Post 12695970)
Frankly, it is doubtful that secondary at the Dublin airport will be crowded when you need to be cleared. At least 3/4's of your fellow passengers will be using the VWP and have no need to go to secondary for clearance and as your waiver has been used already, it is in the system and won't take long to be cleared.

I think you are worried for nothing and looking for issues that aren't there.
OP's question makes total sense, and its a legitimate concern. I've been held in secondary for 5 hours before. It happens, and the process at Dublin for waiver holders is definitely a worry. That's also nonsense about "your waiver has been used already" - the processing time once an officer sits down with your passport is exactly the same from the first time to the 20th time, and from visa to visa.

Originally Posted by TheKingOfHearts (Post 12696153)
It's unlikely you'll even need secondary; usually, once you've "activated" your visa and the first entry has been granted, so long as there are no notable changes, you'll usually just be waived through. At least that's what's been the case for a colleague of mine.
Not true, if you have a waiver for an ineligibility, you're going to secondary every single time. This is true even for greencard holders.

andyrebell Jun 17th 2019 8:01 pm
Re: Pre clearance at Dublin airport with waiver of ineligibility
 
Originally Posted by movida (Post 12695823)
I have a 5 year visa with waiver of ineligibility, this was granted last year and I’ve visited New York since with only a 20 minute delay or so on arrival. I’m interested to fly from Dublin as the taxes and surcharges for redeeming reward flights are far lower. The USA pre screening sounds good but I’m concerned. The reason being that if I flew from London and had to face a lengthy wait for my file to be looked at by a border officer in New York, I have the time to do so. My understanding is that doing this in Dublin happens after I’ve checked in for my flight and after duty free etc. So surely there is an extremely limited time frame, what if they held me up for an hour or more? I can only check in for my flight 2 hours before I think, so must I walk through all the shops and avoid them, plus the airport lounge that is part of my ticket, to go through US clearance and no turning back? How does this work?
Another quirk of going to Dublin is you cannot be detained by the CBP staff pending a return flight home you simply just walk out of the airport.

A quick question for you. How did you come up with your user name?. Is it a reference to the clubs in new york and london with the same name?


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