Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Jan 7th 2004, 11:12 pm
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Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
From October 26 this year all new passports or all renewed passports for visitors travelling from VWP countries will have to have the new style biometric passports.
The UK has announced that the system will not be set up in time and so all visitors will need a visa to enter.
If you have a valid passport that was issued before October this year and is the old style it is still valid for travel without a visa. When it comes up for renewal you will need the new style.
The UK has announced that the system will not be set up in time and so all visitors will need a visa to enter.
If you have a valid passport that was issued before October this year and is the old style it is still valid for travel without a visa. When it comes up for renewal you will need the new style.
Jan 8th 2004, 12:10 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
"sibsie" <member17406@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> From October 26 this year all new passports or all renewed passports for
> visitors travelling from VWP countries will have to have the new style
> biometric passports.
The US had to back down on the date for machine readable passports issue
already; they'll almost certainly have to back down on this requirement too.
Look for talk about waivers from this sometime next Summer.
The reality is that:
a) The number of travellers is too great to issue visas. The tourist
industry and foreign relations would just be hit too hard for this to be
politically viable.
b) There are no worldwide agreements on the implementation of biometric
information in passports and, until there is, countries are going to be
highly reluctant to implement them.
My guess is it will be a few years before this is reality.
As an aside I wonder what the issue will be for GC holders. Current I-551
cards have a fingerprint but I don't know if it's encoded in a way that
could be easily matched. So, if your passport didn't have the biometric
information but was supposed to, would you have to get an updated I-551?
Andy.
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> From October 26 this year all new passports or all renewed passports for
> visitors travelling from VWP countries will have to have the new style
> biometric passports.
The US had to back down on the date for machine readable passports issue
already; they'll almost certainly have to back down on this requirement too.
Look for talk about waivers from this sometime next Summer.
The reality is that:
a) The number of travellers is too great to issue visas. The tourist
industry and foreign relations would just be hit too hard for this to be
politically viable.
b) There are no worldwide agreements on the implementation of biometric
information in passports and, until there is, countries are going to be
highly reluctant to implement them.
My guess is it will be a few years before this is reality.
As an aside I wonder what the issue will be for GC holders. Current I-551
cards have a fingerprint but I don't know if it's encoded in a way that
could be easily matched. So, if your passport didn't have the biometric
information but was supposed to, would you have to get an updated I-551?
Andy.
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I'm not really here, it's just your warped imagination
Jan 8th 2004, 12:45 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
The UK is in talks to get the deadline changed. It was also reported on today's news that there is yet another new regulation that means passengers will not be allowed to queue for the toilets on flights once over American air space. Yes. Really! Watch out for Loo Rage.
Jan 8th 2004, 1:38 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
On one flight I've been on the airline had this policy at the frontmost
toilet - which was right next to the cockpit. I could understand that a bit
more but all toilets would be a bit stupid. You are right about Loo Rage
though - just imagine walking down 20 rows only to have someone jump out and
get in front of you and you have to turn back. It didn't really work on the
flight I was on and I can't see it being improved if it was all toilets!
I can't find anything official about this new law though - perhaps it was
just proposed?
Andy.
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"sibsie" <member17406@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> The UK is in talks to get the deadline changed. It was also reported on
> today's news that there is yet another new regulation that means
> passengers will not be allowed to queue for the toilets on flights once
> over American air space. Yes. Really! Watch out for Loo Rage.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
toilet - which was right next to the cockpit. I could understand that a bit
more but all toilets would be a bit stupid. You are right about Loo Rage
though - just imagine walking down 20 rows only to have someone jump out and
get in front of you and you have to turn back. It didn't really work on the
flight I was on and I can't see it being improved if it was all toilets!
I can't find anything official about this new law though - perhaps it was
just proposed?
Andy.
--
I'm not really here, it's just your warped imagination
"sibsie" <member17406@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The UK is in talks to get the deadline changed. It was also reported on
> today's news that there is yet another new regulation that means
> passengers will not be allowed to queue for the toilets on flights once
> over American air space. Yes. Really! Watch out for Loo Rage.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Jan 8th 2004, 1:56 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by sibsie
The UK is in talks to get the deadline changed. It was also reported on today's news that there is yet another new regulation that means passengers will not be allowed to queue for the toilets on flights once over American air space. Yes. Really! Watch out for Loo Rage.
The UK is in talks to get the deadline changed. It was also reported on today's news that there is yet another new regulation that means passengers will not be allowed to queue for the toilets on flights once over American air space. Yes. Really! Watch out for Loo Rage.
Jan 8th 2004, 4:22 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
Yikes! That's crazy! Some flights could be over US Airspace for upwards of 3-8 hrs depending on destination! Is it that they don't want people to go to the toilet at all, or just not stand in line for them? Do they want people pissing in their seats!? This has got to be some kind of joke right?
Yikes! That's crazy! Some flights could be over US Airspace for upwards of 3-8 hrs depending on destination! Is it that they don't want people to go to the toilet at all, or just not stand in line for them? Do they want people pissing in their seats!? This has got to be some kind of joke right?
You could use the airsickness bag.
Jan 8th 2004, 4:33 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by Leslie66
You could use the airsickness bag.
You could use the airsickness bag.
Maybe *you* could, but I doubt I'm that agile.
~SG
Jan 8th 2004, 4:36 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by Andy Platt
I can't find anything official about this new law though - perhaps it was just proposed?
Andy.
I can't find anything official about this new law though - perhaps it was just proposed?
Andy.
Jan 8th 2004, 4:37 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by Leslie66
You could use the airsickness bag.
You could use the airsickness bag.
And then you'd be stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by. LOL..don't want to visualize! 
Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very problem. heheehhe
Jan 8th 2004, 4:37 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by SecretGarden
Leslie,
Maybe *you* could, but I doubt I'm that agile.
~SG
Leslie,
Maybe *you* could, but I doubt I'm that agile.
~SG
Well you know, lots of yoga.
Jan 8th 2004, 4:39 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak? And then you'd be stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by. LOL..don't want to visualize!
Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very problem. heheehhe
Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak?
And then you'd be stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by. LOL..don't want to visualize! Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very problem. heheehhe
Maybe we should all just be strapped to toilets instead of regular seats for the entire flight.
Jan 8th 2004, 4:41 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
Yikes! That's crazy! Some flights could be over US Airspace for upwards of 3-8 hrs depending on destination! Is it that they don't want people to go to the toilet at all, or just not stand in line for them? Do they want people pissing in their seats!? This has got to be some kind of joke right?
Yikes! That's crazy! Some flights could be over US Airspace for upwards of 3-8 hrs depending on destination! Is it that they don't want people to go to the toilet at all, or just not stand in line for them? Do they want people pissing in their seats!? This has got to be some kind of joke right?
Jan 8th 2004, 4:43 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by Leslie66
Maybe we should all just be strapped to toilets instead of regular seats for the entire flight.
Maybe we should all just be strapped to toilets instead of regular seats for the entire flight.
But...wouldn't that cause a lot of turbulence???
Jan 8th 2004, 4:43 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak? And then you'd be stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by. LOL..don't want to visualize!
Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very problem. heheehhe
Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak?
And then you'd be stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by. LOL..don't want to visualize! Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very problem. heheehhe
Jan 8th 2004, 4:56 am
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Re: Policy Change Reminder for VWP Visitors
Wear diaper.
"sunflwrgrl13" <member16206@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Leslie66
> > You could use the airsickness bag.
> Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak? And then you'd be
> stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by.
> LOL..don't want to visualize!
> Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as
> astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very
> problem. heheehhe
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
"sunflwrgrl13" <member16206@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Leslie66
> > You could use the airsickness bag.
> Ewww..are the bags waterproof, or would they leak?
And then you'd be> stuck w/them until the next time a flight attendant walked by.
> LOL..don't want to visualize!
> Oh! They could just make all passengers wear the same suits as
> astronauts - they have a built in compartment just for this very
> problem. heheehhe
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
