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Sipod Sep 28th 2025 1:35 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Having just received a B1 OCS for 5 years which was the specific one I applied for, would it be wrong to assume a new application for a B2 tourist would also be granted on the waiver of ineligibility ?
My crime was a receipt in 1998 for £10 out of a invoice book so I'm so naughty I fall under "crimes of moral turpitude"

joolsjools Sep 29th 2025 8:20 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Sipod (Post 13325430)
Having just received a B1 OCS for 5 years which was the specific one I applied for, would it be wrong to assume a new application for a B2 tourist would also be granted on the waiver of ineligibility ?
My crime was a receipt in 1998 for £10 out of a invoice book so I'm so naughty I fall under "crimes of moral turpitude"

As far as I understand it, the waiver of ineligibility is associated with the specific visa for which it was requested. Therefore a new visa requires a new waiver.

jools

phil625sxc Sep 30th 2025 12:52 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Hello all, I'm just about to start the long process again and have an appointment at the embassy coming up, last time one of the required documents to take along was the VCU1 personal data form, however it seems like this is no longer required or I can't see that it is requested anywhere - anyone know if they still need to see this at the interview?
Many thanks.

SP78 Sep 30th 2025 3:56 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Hi

Been reading through this a bit today and thought I'd throw my own interview date and details up, by the looks of it Im not getting a waiver but thats life I guess.

Interview 1st November 2024, the interview lady recommended for the waiver of ineligibility etc - told me 8 months or so wait, but I figured it might run over as had read a bit on another forum.

I'm mid 40's home owner, business, married with kids etc etc - possession class B when I was 18 went to court got a conviction, then a caution for a drunk and disorderly in my early 20's (In fairness I didn't really do the last one but there were good reasons to accept the caution at the time, but nevermind!)

One question I do have please - Ive tried checking the progress on the CEAC site and it wants my 'Immigrant Visa case number' - I know this is pretty stupid but for the life of me I cant find any record of it, checked my email confirmations from embassy last year and also the bit of paper with my refusal and cant seem to find it - am i missing something please? Its not the end of the world as I now realise what a total waste of time and effort the whole thing was so if it just means waiting for the official refusal so be it.

Just wanted to take my kids universal studios and visit a niece in Miami, decided to do it legit and honest and its bitten me on the backside it seems :)

Thanks for your time




bimbango50 Sep 30th 2025 4:06 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by SP78 (Post 13325728)
Hi

Been reading through this a bit today and thought I'd throw my own interview date and details up, by the looks of it Im not getting a waiver but thats life I guess.

Interview 1st November 2024, the interview lady recommended for the waiver of ineligibility etc - told me 8 months or so wait, but I figured it might run over as had read a bit on another forum.

I'm mid 40's home owner, business, married with kids etc etc - possession class B when I was 18 went to court got a conviction, then a caution for a drunk and disorderly in my early 20's (In fairness I didn't really do the last one but there were good reasons to accept the caution at the time, but nevermind!)

One question I do have please - Ive tried checking the progress on the CEAC site and it wants my 'Immigrant Visa case number' - I know this is pretty stupid but for the life of me I cant find any record of it, checked my email confirmations from embassy last year and also the bit of paper with my refusal and cant seem to find it - am i missing something please? Its not the end of the world as I now realise what a total waste of time and effort the whole thing was so if it just means waiting for the official refusal so be it.

Just wanted to take my kids universal studios and visit a niece in Miami, decided to do it legit and honest and its bitten me on the backside it seems :)

Thanks for your time


I struggled with finding this info as well as it is not immediately clear - if you search 'U.S. DoS - CEAC Confirmation' in your emails the code should come up in the subject line of your confirmation email from the embassy. My interview was just before yours on 28 Oct 2024 so I am expecting my rejection any day now!

joolsjools Sep 30th 2025 4:07 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by SP78 (Post 13325728)
Hi

Been reading through this a bit today and thought I'd throw my own interview date and details up, by the looks of it Im not getting a waiver but thats life I guess.

Interview 1st November 2024, the interview lady recommended for the waiver of ineligibility etc - told me 8 months or so wait, but I figured it might run over as had read a bit on another forum.

I'm mid 40's home owner, business, married with kids etc etc - possession class B when I was 18 went to court got a conviction, then a caution for a drunk and disorderly in my early 20's (In fairness I didn't really do the last one but there were good reasons to accept the caution at the time, but nevermind!)

One question I do have please - Ive tried checking the progress on the CEAC site and it wants my 'Immigrant Visa case number' - I know this is pretty stupid but for the life of me I cant find any record of it, checked my email confirmations from embassy last year and also the bit of paper with my refusal and cant seem to find it - am i missing something please? Its not the end of the world as I now realise what a total waste of time and effort the whole thing was so if it just means waiting for the official refusal so be it.

Just wanted to take my kids universal studios and visit a niece in Miami, decided to do it legit and honest and its bitten me on the backside it seems :)

Thanks for your time

Hi SP78 and welcome.

Reading your comments above, I assume you're applying for a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa, in which case you need to choose the "Nonimmigrant Visa" option from the drop down list on the CEAC status checking site, as per screenshot below, and then provide your application number from your DS160.

I'll add an entry for you on the tracker spreadsheet so you can see where you are relative to others here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?gid=0#gid=0)

jools

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...9b5a55f94c.png

SP78 Sep 30th 2025 6:07 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by bimbango50 (Post 13325732)
I struggled with finding this info as well as it is not immediately clear - if you search 'U.S. DoS - CEAC Confirmation' in your emails the code should come up in the subject line of your confirmation email from the embassy. My interview was just before yours on 28 Oct 2024 so I am expecting my rejection any day now!

Ok thanks I’ll try that.

its frustrating isn’t it - loads of mates told me I was stupid at the time and just to do what they all do and go on the ESTA but I thought better to just be straight up and not risk it etc since I’ve behaved for near a quarter century and didn’t think it was especially terrible what I’d done in the first place - how wrong was I :)


SP78 Sep 30th 2025 6:12 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Thanks Jools - yes that’s the visa type , was London embassy too .

Ill have another go at logging into the consular website tomorrow as the password etc stored on my work pc and can’t access from home .

Thanks

joolsjools Sep 30th 2025 7:35 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by SP78 (Post 13325748)
Ok thanks I’ll try that.

its frustrating isn’t it - loads of mates told me I was stupid at the time and just to do what they all do and go on the ESTA but I thought better to just be straight up and not risk it etc since I’ve behaved for near a quarter century and didn’t think it was especially terrible what I’d done in the first place - how wrong was I :)

To be honest you've done the right thing, even though the outcome may not be successful on this occasion. Lying on the ESTA can slam shut future USA visa prospects. You never know when you might need a visa for family or work, at which point any previous misrepresentation will almost certainly come to light!

So don't feel too bad.

jools

joolsjools Sep 30th 2025 7:56 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Since @JamieVisa (row 153) and Vicky (row 159) are no longer present, I will move their rows to the Dead Entries sheet this Friday unless we hear something back from them.

Ninjabreadman Oct 1st 2025 11:02 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Wow it will be a year tomorrow and I’ve still not heard anything back about my waiver. They’re not in a hurry are they.

gentian Oct 2nd 2025 12:28 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Ninjabreadman (Post 13326025)
Wow it will be a year tomorrow and I’ve still not heard anything back about my waiver. They’re not in a hurry are they.

I was there the day after you, 9 months they told me, should have known it would be longer than that. Quite the wait for a refusal isn't it? I've pretty much given up on it now apart from checking in here from time to time to check if by some miracle things have changed which of course they won't. Plenty of other countries to visit and spend our money so it's no great loss.

Ninjabreadman Oct 2nd 2025 12:42 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by gentian (Post 13326039)
I was there the day after you, 9 months they told me, should have known it would be longer than that. Quite the wait for a refusal isn't it? I've pretty much given up on it now apart from checking in here from time to time to check if by some miracle things have changed which of course they won't. Plenty of other countries to visit and spend our money so it's no great loss.

I know we went an amazing place in Turkey if we don’t hear in the next week or 2 we’re just gonna book there again

Maskey41 Oct 2nd 2025 10:33 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
I was rejected for a visa under the 214B. They didn’t say anything about a waiver is this an automatic process?

joolsjools Oct 2nd 2025 10:41 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326159)
I was rejected for a visa under the 214B. They didn’t say anything about a waiver is this an automatic process?

Hi Maskey41 and welcome to the forum.

When did you have your interview? You haven't provided enough info for us to comment properly.

jools

Maskey41 Oct 2nd 2025 10:43 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
The interview was about 3 hours ago. They didn’t request any additional information. I have a criminal record from 18’yeats ago

joolsjools Oct 2nd 2025 10:53 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326163)
The interview was about 3 hours ago. They didn’t request any additional information. I have a criminal record from 18’yeats ago

Sorry to hear this.

There is no automatic right to a recommendation for a waiver, and the letter you will have been provided at the interview will state whether they have recommended you for one or not. Unless it specifically says that they are recommending you, they are not!

This unfortunately now appears to be the norm for the small number of people who find their way to this and other forums and share their results. People who have decades old records and who have previously had waivers are now being rejected under 214(b).

The USA has substantially tightened its immigration enforcement.

All the best,

jools


Maskey41 Oct 2nd 2025 11:38 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Thanks for the feedback. Is there a way of applying for one yourself.

214b - gives the impression that you intend to stay in the us for longer that advised. I have 5 dependables at home a good job, mortgage never missed a payment and my finances are in order I really don’t understand.

joolsjools Oct 3rd 2025 12:05 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326176)
Thanks for the feedback. Is there a way of applying for one yourself.

214b - gives the impression that you intend to stay in the us for longer that advised. I have 5 dependables at home a good job, mortgage never missed a payment and my finances are in order I really don’t understand.

No, it is entirely up to the consular official to decide whether to make a recommendation.

214(b) rejections are an easy way for the consulate to reject without having to explain their reasons. There is NO appeal process, and it doesn't matter really what your circumstances are.

Based on the very limited amount of data we have in this forum and others, 214(b) appears to be the standard rejection for anyone the USA does not want to give a visa for at the moment, no matter what. Multiple other users here will tell you they're in exactly the same position.

jools


Maskey41 Oct 3rd 2025 12:17 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Thanks for the information. Looks like Vegas is off the bucket list next year. Makes you feel like crap and a downgraded citizen
judged by people in your country or are also no residents 🤣

joolsjools Oct 3rd 2025 12:25 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326186)
Thanks for the information. Looks like Vegas is off the bucket list next year. Makes you feel like crap and a downgraded citizen
judged by people in your country or are also no residents 🤣

It sucks, but don't take it personally. Lots of other places to visit :-)

christmasoompa Oct 3rd 2025 6:08 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326176)
214b - gives the impression that you intend to stay in the us for longer that advised. I have 5 dependables at home a good job, mortgage never missed a payment and my finances are in order I really don’t understand.

Under US immigration law, every visitor is presumed to have immigrant intent and they have to overcome that assumption to get a visa. Yes, it's daft, but that's always been the case, last year rejection rates were ~20% for visitor visas and pretty much all of those will have been under 214b. It'll be interesting to see if that rate increases, and if so by how much, when the 2025 data is released.

Your mortgage isn't relevant (plenty of people that live overseas have UK mortgages, myself included), but your family should have been a factor, as long as they knew you weren't travelling with them. The main thing though would be your job, was that mentioned on your DS-160?

Maskey41 Oct 3rd 2025 6:27 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
It was meant to be the 1st time me and the wife were going away without the kids. Yes they asked me my profession which I gave them. I deal with the MOD, Naval and Aerospace applications actually supply parts for the US & British defence market.

christmasoompa Oct 3rd 2025 6:36 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326230)
It was meant to be the 1st time me and the wife were going away without the kids. Yes they asked me my profession which I gave them. I deal with the MOD, Naval and Aerospace applications actually supply parts for the US & British defence market.

Possible that was a factor then, they may have thought you would work there. Or it may just have been an easy way to clear an application, unfortunately there's no way to know. If it's any consolation, I think Vegas is a dump, there are tons of MUCH nicer places to visit! :lol:

Maskey41 Oct 3rd 2025 6:38 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
I think they just let so many through and reject so many so it’s luck of the draw. I don’t like long haul flights anyway 🤣🤣🤣 i only did it for the wife. Happy wife happy life 🤣

christmasoompa Oct 3rd 2025 6:55 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326237)
I think they just let so many through and reject so many so it’s luck of the draw. I don’t like long haul flights anyway 🤣🤣🤣 i only did it for the wife. Happy wife happy life 🤣

My husband would be the first to agree with that Good l luck, hope you have a lovely trip wherever you end up.

orlandotimeforus Oct 3rd 2025 9:57 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Hi everyone!
found this forum a while back through an Orlando group.
we have been visiting every year and last year my partners esta was declined randomly.
he was working in Nigeria last year - went for a visa and denied under 214B
we reapplied and he had his interview yesterday - he watched people at the door of the embassy have void written through their ds160 and turned away before entering the building. We didn’t have much hope because of everything with trump just now.
His application is now under hold by 221G as they would like a SAR - he had his Acro with him. He applied for the SAR as soon as leaving the embassy.
has anyone else been in this position and what was your outcome? Does this then normally go for a waiver after this or is it instant denial/acceptance?

christmasoompa Oct 3rd 2025 9:59 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by orlandotimeforus (Post 13326253)
Hi everyone!
found this forum a while back through an Orlando group.
we have been visiting every year and last year my partners esta was declined randomly.
he was working in Nigeria last year - went for a visa and denied under 214B
we reapplied and he had his interview yesterday - he watched people at the door of the embassy have void written through their ds160 and turned away before entering the building. We didn’t have much hope because of everything with trump just now.
His application is now under hold by 221G as they would like a SAR - he had his Acro with him. He applied for the SAR as soon as leaving the embassy.
has anyone else been in this position and what was your outcome? Does this then normally go for a waiver after this or is it instant denial/acceptance?

Does he actually have any criminal record?

orlandotimeforus Oct 3rd 2025 10:11 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13326255)
Does he actually have any criminal record?

Yes, Vandalism from 2017 - fined £700 - but this is not a CIMT as far as we are aware?
The visa officer asked if he was held infront of a jury which he was not and he said ahh that explains a lot?
This charge is because he was a victim of domestic abuse assault so he kicked the car and the £700 was to pay for damage. He got letters from the court to prove this and took them along to.

This is the only conviction he has.

christmasoompa Oct 4th 2025 3:58 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by orlandotimeforus (Post 13326257)
Yes, Vandalism from 2017 - fined £700 - but this is not a CIMT as far as we are aware?
The visa officer asked if he was held infront of a jury which he was not and he said ahh that explains a lot?
This charge is because he was a victim of domestic abuse assault so he kicked the car and the £700 was to pay for damage. He got letters from the court to prove this and took them along to.

This is the only conviction he has.

Ah, ok. Sounds like that would now make him ineligible for ESTA since the questions changed, as it asks about damage to another person's property. I assume that him ticking yes to that was what triggered the rejection.

orlandotimeforus Oct 4th 2025 8:05 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13326313)
Ah, ok. Sounds like that would now make him ineligible for ESTA since the questions changed, as it asks about damage to another person's property. I assume that him ticking yes to that was what triggered the rejection.

the question states serious damage? The damage wasn’t serious. It was a small dent. And we ticked no to that as the damage wasn’t classed as serious. The immigration officer on his last visa interview said his conviction wouldn’t be the reason for his denial and were more interested in his job in Nigeria.

Vicky197628 Oct 5th 2025 6:35 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
Can’t believe I’m still waiting to hear back from the embassy 😢is anyone else been waiting since the 11th September or before ?
still saying refused on the visa status check

joolsjools Oct 5th 2025 7:22 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Vicky197628 (Post 13326413)
Can’t believe I’m still waiting to hear back from the embassy 😢is anyone else been waiting since the 11th September or before ?
still saying refused on the visa status check

Hi Vicky

Great to see you're still here. I had actually moved your and another user's entries to another tab as I thought you had forgotten about us and the sheet :-) I have restored your entry.

You're currently at 389 days. JamieVisa was as 394 but unless he gives us an update, I won't count his data. So you're currently the longest, but there are other users who are going to hit 370 days this week, so you're not way off the mark.

Keep holding thumbs, something will come eventually. Do let us know when you hear anything.

All the best,

jools




Vicky197628 Oct 5th 2025 9:08 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by joolsjools (Post 13326418)
Hi Vicky

Great to see you're still here. I had actually moved your and another user's entries to another tab as I thought you had forgotten about us and the sheet :-) I have restored your entry.

You're currently at 389 days. JamieVisa was as 394 but unless he gives us an update, I won't count his data. So you're currently the longest, but there are other users who are going to hit 370 days this week, so you're not way off the mark.

Keep holding thumbs, something will come eventually. Do let us know when you hear anything.

All the best,

jools

Thankyou 😁I’m just so fed up with the waiting ! She was such a mean woman who interviewed me I have vision's of her just typing on her computer make her wait then refuse her 🤣😩 I try and keep positive but after seeing all the refusals it’s hard 😩 I will let you know if I ever hear anything 🤣

WaiverWait Oct 7th 2025 3:05 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
I got the same status today a
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0507b2303b.jpg
Approved but not issued
and they have got my passport so fingers crossed our status will change to issued. Final step. (it does say that there is a final screening step)

WaiverWait Oct 7th 2025 3:18 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
My email to send passport in came just over 12 months and still got the final nailbite to see it go from approved to issued because it can fail at that hurdle. Hang on in there yours must be soon as we are similar dates.

joolsjools Oct 7th 2025 4:37 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by WaiverWait (Post 13326681)
I got the same status today a

Approved but not issued
and they have got my passport so fingers crossed our status will change to issued. Final step. (it does say that there is a final screening step)

Really holding thumbs for you.

jools

Maskey41 Oct 7th 2025 7:00 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 
So last week I was refused a visa. I have a record and asked some questions in here that were helpful. Now is it worth me trying again anytime soon. I was rejected under 412B

joolsjools Oct 7th 2025 7:25 am

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by Maskey41 (Post 13326699)
So last week I was refused a visa. I have a record and asked some questions in here that were helpful. Now is it worth me trying again anytime soon. I was rejected under 412B

If the letter you were given said anything along the lines of "you are unlikely to get a different result in the near future" then probably not. But ultimately, only you can make the decision as to whether you want to try again so soon. Others here would be eager to hear the results.

Jools

Vicky197628 Oct 7th 2025 11:47 pm

Re: Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver of Ineligibility Application
 

Originally Posted by WaiverWait (Post 13326681)
I got the same status today a
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0507b2303b.jpg
Approved but not issued
and they have got my passport so fingers crossed our status will change to issued. Final step. (it does say that there is a final screening step)

can I ask what the email came under in the past mine were under donotreplyusvisa but I’ve also had emails from usembassy I want to make sure I haven’t missed it but I know I haven’t just getting desperate ! And congratulations on being approved 😃seems a rarity these days


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