Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
Nov 11th 2002, 6:43 pm
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Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
or immigration:
http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
or immigration:
http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
Nov 11th 2002, 10:29 pm
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
[email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
The huge increases in foreign born in different states of 1992
compared to 2000 is distressing. But the other information likely is
understandable only by people who have more knowledge of mathematics
and statistics and scattergrams. Perhaps eventually you might add some
comments about what the overall picture means. Good luck in getting
the attention of people who might pursue this data.
(In the above, when I said that the huge increases in foreign born is
distressing, that plunks me down into the category of the
"psychopathological." Psychopathological is how the mass media,
hollywood, the TV presentations, the newspapers esp the New York
Times, seeks to hint or portray people who dare to express chagrin
over the massive immigration sweeping into our country, a massive
immigration that is with the blessing of almost all politicians in
both parties, a massive immigration enforced by the iron fist of the
courts and the political forces that work forever and tirelessly to
increase immigration of the non-tradional ethnic people of the US in
order that they will be way less of the political force than they were
traditionally.)
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
The huge increases in foreign born in different states of 1992
compared to 2000 is distressing. But the other information likely is
understandable only by people who have more knowledge of mathematics
and statistics and scattergrams. Perhaps eventually you might add some
comments about what the overall picture means. Good luck in getting
the attention of people who might pursue this data.
(In the above, when I said that the huge increases in foreign born is
distressing, that plunks me down into the category of the
"psychopathological." Psychopathological is how the mass media,
hollywood, the TV presentations, the newspapers esp the New York
Times, seeks to hint or portray people who dare to express chagrin
over the massive immigration sweeping into our country, a massive
immigration that is with the blessing of almost all politicians in
both parties, a massive immigration enforced by the iron fist of the
courts and the political forces that work forever and tirelessly to
increase immigration of the non-tradional ethnic people of the US in
order that they will be way less of the political force than they were
traditionally.)
Nov 12th 2002, 12:11 am
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
On 11 Nov 2002 15:29:01 -0800, [email protected] (BlueSky) wrote:
>[email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
>> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
>> or immigration:
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
>The huge increases in foreign born in different states of 1992
>compared to 2000 is distressing. But the other information likely is
>understandable only by people who have more knowledge of mathematics
>and statistics and scattergrams. Perhaps eventually you might add some
>comments about what the overall picture means. Good luck in getting
>the attention of people who might pursue this data.
High correlations between data sets don't show causality. There has to
be a plausible expalnation for that before you analyze the data.
>(In the above, when I said that the huge increases in foreign born is
>distressing, that plunks me down into the category of the
>"psychopathological." Psychopathological is how the mass media,
>hollywood, the TV presentations, the newspapers esp the New York
>Times, seeks to hint or portray people who dare to express chagrin
>over the massive immigration sweeping into our country, a massive
>immigration that is with the blessing of almost all politicians in
>both parties, a massive immigration enforced by the iron fist of the
>courts and the political forces that work forever and tirelessly to
>increase immigration of the non-tradional ethnic people of the US in
>order that they will be way less of the political force than they were
>traditionally.)
>[email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
>> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
>> or immigration:
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
>The huge increases in foreign born in different states of 1992
>compared to 2000 is distressing. But the other information likely is
>understandable only by people who have more knowledge of mathematics
>and statistics and scattergrams. Perhaps eventually you might add some
>comments about what the overall picture means. Good luck in getting
>the attention of people who might pursue this data.
High correlations between data sets don't show causality. There has to
be a plausible expalnation for that before you analyze the data.
>(In the above, when I said that the huge increases in foreign born is
>distressing, that plunks me down into the category of the
>"psychopathological." Psychopathological is how the mass media,
>hollywood, the TV presentations, the newspapers esp the New York
>Times, seeks to hint or portray people who dare to express chagrin
>over the massive immigration sweeping into our country, a massive
>immigration that is with the blessing of almost all politicians in
>both parties, a massive immigration enforced by the iron fist of the
>courts and the political forces that work forever and tirelessly to
>increase immigration of the non-tradional ethnic people of the US in
>order that they will be way less of the political force than they were
>traditionally.)
Nov 12th 2002, 1:12 am
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
[email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
Nov 12th 2002, 3:17 am
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
"James Bowery" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
Is this another one of those posts that traces every evil in America to
immigration? Maybe we should all go back to where our ancestors came from.
For most of us, that would not be America.
news:[email protected]...
> I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> or immigration:
> http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
Is this another one of those posts that traces every evil in America to
immigration? Maybe we should all go back to where our ancestors came from.
For most of us, that would not be America.
Nov 12th 2002, 3:58 am
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If certain
immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population, that is
of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
Btw, there is nothing that says a nation of immigrants cannot strictly limit or
stop immigration. We have done so in the past with very positive results.
Hussin wrote:
> "James Bowery" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > or immigration:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> Is this another one of those posts that traces every evil in America to
> immigration? Maybe we should all go back to where our ancestors came from.
> For most of us, that would not be America.
immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population, that is
of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
Btw, there is nothing that says a nation of immigrants cannot strictly limit or
stop immigration. We have done so in the past with very positive results.
Hussin wrote:
> "James Bowery" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > or immigration:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> Is this another one of those posts that traces every evil in America to
> immigration? Maybe we should all go back to where our ancestors came from.
> For most of us, that would not be America.
Nov 12th 2002, 5:42 am
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A Fair Contest
[email protected] (Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna) wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > or immigration:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
>
> Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
Then here is a fair contest:
Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
> [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > or immigration:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
>
> Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
Then here is a fair contest:
Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
Nov 12th 2002, 1:26 pm
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
"TL" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
certain
> immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
that is
> of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
> I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
certain
> immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
that is
> of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
Nov 12th 2002, 1:51 pm
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Re: A Fair Contest
Looks like white bread syndrome to me ...
90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
committed crimes.
More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
10 years.
90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
committed crimes.
More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
10 years.
Nov 12th 2002, 3:08 pm
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Re: A Fair Contest
[email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna) wrote in message news:...
> > [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > > or immigration:
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> >
> > Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> > that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> > between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
>
> Then here is a fair contest:
Nope. I make my living with stats. Show me the colour of your money.
Sorry, union rules of the International Brotherhood of Math Geeks,
which does happen to have a large proportion of us weirdo Asperger
folks, go figure.
>
> Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
> themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
> product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
> the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
> born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
Just one variable? Properly one should try to build an n-variable
model, with multiple interactions, etc., and let the p values tell you
which ones to keep and which to drop. I certainly would code
ethnicity, location, an index of the local industrial activity,
economic level, vaccined or not vaccined (and if so, with what year,
batch, etc.), the color of the kitchen sink... As I said, the
variables that aren't valid will drop out. Frankly, it is a valid
endeavour but more for someone like the CDC that has all the clout,
researchers, and funding. I do wish they were doing more research
into the causes. But a model setup to pin autism on the percent of
"evil furriners" then I think your model would be insufficient.
> [email protected] (Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna) wrote in message news:...
> > [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > > or immigration:
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> >
> > Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> > that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> > between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
>
> Then here is a fair contest:
Nope. I make my living with stats. Show me the colour of your money.
Sorry, union rules of the International Brotherhood of Math Geeks,
which does happen to have a large proportion of us weirdo Asperger
folks, go figure.
>
> Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
> themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
> product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
> the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
> born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
Just one variable? Properly one should try to build an n-variable
model, with multiple interactions, etc., and let the p values tell you
which ones to keep and which to drop. I certainly would code
ethnicity, location, an index of the local industrial activity,
economic level, vaccined or not vaccined (and if so, with what year,
batch, etc.), the color of the kitchen sink... As I said, the
variables that aren't valid will drop out. Frankly, it is a valid
endeavour but more for someone like the CDC that has all the clout,
researchers, and funding. I do wish they were doing more research
into the causes. But a model setup to pin autism on the percent of
"evil furriners" then I think your model would be insufficient.
Nov 12th 2002, 4:12 pm
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
Particularly, if autism is non-organic in nature and immigrants are more prone
to it.
Hussin wrote:
> "TL" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
> certain
> > immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
> that is
> > of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
> >
> According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
> in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
> or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
to it.
Hussin wrote:
> "TL" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
> certain
> > immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
> that is
> > of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
> >
> According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
> in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
> or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
Nov 12th 2002, 4:34 pm
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Re: A Fair Contest
I think you are being pompous Pompino. Autism, as far as I know, has never been proven to be organic in nature.
"Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna" wrote:
> [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > [email protected] (Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna) wrote in message news:...
> > > [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > > > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > > > or immigration:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> > >
> > > Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> > > that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> > > between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
> >
> > Then here is a fair contest:
> Nope. I make my living with stats. Show me the colour of your money.
> Sorry, union rules of the International Brotherhood of Math Geeks,
> which does happen to have a large proportion of us weirdo Asperger
> folks, go figure.
> >
> > Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
> > themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
> > product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
> > the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
> > born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
> Just one variable? Properly one should try to build an n-variable
> model, with multiple interactions, etc., and let the p values tell you
> which ones to keep and which to drop. I certainly would code
> ethnicity, location, an index of the local industrial activity,
> economic level, vaccined or not vaccined (and if so, with what year,
> batch, etc.), the color of the kitchen sink... As I said, the
> variables that aren't valid will drop out. Frankly, it is a valid
> endeavour but more for someone like the CDC that has all the clout,
> researchers, and funding. I do wish they were doing more research
> into the causes. But a model setup to pin autism on the percent of
> "evil furriners" then I think your model would be insufficient.
"Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna" wrote:
> [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > [email protected] (Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna) wrote in message news:...
> > > [email protected] (James Bowery) wrote in message news:...
> > > > I encourage you to forward this link to those who are interested in autism
> > > > or immigration:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/imbamcoa.html
> > >
> > > Those correlation coefficients are pretty sorry, I think you know
> > > that. On the other hand, there is probably a definite correlation
> > > between sunspots and how bad heavy metal bands sound.
> >
> > Then here is a fair contest:
> Nope. I make my living with stats. Show me the colour of your money.
> Sorry, union rules of the International Brotherhood of Math Geeks,
> which does happen to have a large proportion of us weirdo Asperger
> folks, go figure.
> >
> > Come up with any statistical variable (other than autism levels
> > themselves) that, by state, can be fit by two lines at a higher
> > product of Peason correlation coefficients with the autism levels in
> > the year 2000 than the one I gave: The multiple increase of foreign
> > born from 1990 to 2000 (.7*.59=.413).
> Just one variable? Properly one should try to build an n-variable
> model, with multiple interactions, etc., and let the p values tell you
> which ones to keep and which to drop. I certainly would code
> ethnicity, location, an index of the local industrial activity,
> economic level, vaccined or not vaccined (and if so, with what year,
> batch, etc.), the color of the kitchen sink... As I said, the
> variables that aren't valid will drop out. Frankly, it is a valid
> endeavour but more for someone like the CDC that has all the clout,
> researchers, and funding. I do wish they were doing more research
> into the causes. But a model setup to pin autism on the percent of
> "evil furriners" then I think your model would be insufficient.
Nov 12th 2002, 4:34 pm
#13
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Re: A Fair Contest
It's kinda like crime. Peopel tihnk there is more crime nowadays, worse
crimes, more terrible acts, the streets are more dangerous etc. When the
reality is people just report more crimes nowadays and the media is fixated
on it and reports everything right to our homes so we get an image of a much
worse and dangerous society and feel that it was much safer and less violent
decades ago or even centuries ago which is nonsense.
"Stuart Brook" wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Looks like white bread syndrome to me ...
> 90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
> committed crimes.
> More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
> autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
> 10 years.
crimes, more terrible acts, the streets are more dangerous etc. When the
reality is people just report more crimes nowadays and the media is fixated
on it and reports everything right to our homes so we get an image of a much
worse and dangerous society and feel that it was much safer and less violent
decades ago or even centuries ago which is nonsense.
"Stuart Brook" wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Looks like white bread syndrome to me ...
> 90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
> committed crimes.
> More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
> autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
> 10 years.
Nov 12th 2002, 8:17 pm
#14
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Joined: Jul 2002
Location: MA via London
Posts: 134
Re: A Fair Contest
Originally posted by Stuart Brook
Looks like white bread syndrome to me ...
90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
committed crimes.
More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
10 years.
Looks like white bread syndrome to me ...
90% of criminals consumed white bread within 24 hours before they
committed crimes.
More significantly though has been an increase in the detection of
autistic behaviours and the reporting of autistic behaviours in the last
10 years.
"God is good. Iam good. Ergo, I am God"
Nov 12th 2002, 8:27 pm
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Re: Immigration May Be a Major Cause of Autism
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Hussin wrote:
> "TL" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
> certain
> > immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
> that is
> > of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
> >
> According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
> in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
> or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
Mister Hussin..
stick around, these folks here even link El NINO to immigration, just to
blame it on someone!!!
> "TL" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I don't think an organic cause of autism has ever been established. If
> certain
> > immigrant populations are more prone to it, than our native population,
> that is
> > of interest. It might explain a lot of things.
> >
> According to all the information I've seen, autism occurs 4 times as often
> in males as females, but there is nothing linking autism to any ethnic group
> or economic status, etc. Linking autism to immigration is not valid.
Mister Hussin..
stick around, these folks here even link El NINO to immigration, just to
blame it on someone!!!