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If I apply for a B1/B2 and do not get it. Will I have problems entering on a VWP

Old Jun 23rd 2009, 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
I am not being unreasonable here...
Yes, you are - because...

when anyone is about to invest a lot of money they need reassurances that things will work out
... there is *no* such guarantee.


I just want to know for certain that me and my wife could in fact live in the US, before we dump all our hard earned cash into a EB5 project.
It doesn't work that way... you dump your cash first, and then you find out if you can live in the US. It's the US' sandbox, it's the US' rules. You do it their way, or you seek elsewhere.

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Old Jun 23rd 2009, 11:42 pm
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Default Re: If I apply for a B1/B2 and do not get it. Will I have problems entering on a VWP

Originally Posted by scoobysteve
Really what about all those Arabian fathers that buy into EB5 just so they can send their children to American Schools, and never even get to step foot on US soil.
Apparently, they can afford the risk. You, however, want a guarantee in advance.


Its seems you guys on here enjoy putting down any aspirations of living in what we think to be a great country.
We're not the ones who are dampening your aspirations... you're doing that yourself because you insist on some sort of reassurance beforehand. It doesn't work that way. If you want the benefit... you take the risk first.

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Default Re: If I apply for a B1/B2 and do not get it. Will I have problems entering on a VWP

Originally Posted by scoobysteve
Really what about all those Arabian fathers that buy into EB5 just so they can send their children to American Schools, and never even get to step foot on US soil.
Its seems you guys on here enjoy putting down any aspirations of living in what we think to be a great country.
We get several people every week like yourself thinking they have a right to come and live in the US. When we tell them the truth they start to get abusive. We don't enjoy bursting the bubble...would you rather we lie and tell you what you want to hear? We are only telling you the truth.

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Old Jun 23rd 2009, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
We get several people every week like yourself thinking they have a right to come and live in the US. When we tell them the truth they start to get abusive. We don't enjoy bursting the bubble...would you rather we lie and tell you what you want to hear? We are only telling you the truth.
OK not bothered about your opinions now, it seems you have all come to your own opinions about me and my wife, Just because we are wealthy and you dont like that.

ALL we wanted to know without being personal or cutting is a honest non insulting opinion if we could in fact try before we buy, something we still think is not unreasonable for such an investment. I will call a immigration lawyer who hopefully will communicate with me without any digging comments or rude straight to the point reactions as if I have personal insulted you.

Hiding behind a keyboard does not give you the right to be rude. Your expertise is all we wanted not your opinions of wether you think we should be allowed or not, Just the facts .

Not bothered about any more responses have created a rule to delete all responses so dont bother wasting your time I wont see them.

Moderator dont bother banning me I will remove my account.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 12:01 am
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OK Moderator remove me as I cant see where the hell I can remove myself.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 12:04 am
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Default Re: If I apply for a B1/B2 and do not get it. Will I have problems entering on a VWP

Originally Posted by scoobysteve
OK not bothered about your opinions now, it seems you have all come to your own opinions about me and my wife, Just because we are wealthy and you dont like that.

ALL we wanted to know without being personal or cutting is a honest non insulting opinion if we could in fact try before we buy, something we still think is not unreasonable for such an investment. I will call a immigration lawyer who hopefully will communicate with me without any digging comments or rude straight to the point reactions as if I have personal insulted you.

Hiding behind a keyboard does not give you the right to be rude. Your expertise is all we wanted not your opinions of wether you think we should be allowed or not, Just the facts .

Not bothered about any more responses have created a rule to delete all responses so dont bother wasting your time I wont see them.

Moderator dont bother banning me I will remove my account.
What is the deal here? No no one is being rude, and I don't care whether you should get 'in' or not.. you've personalized all this blah blah which is nothing more than reiterating the facts to you. Why do you think I don't like it if you're wealthy? Come over and make ME wealthy, I have no objection.
It's also reasonable to WANT to test drive the place before you get residency. Unfortunately, the US doesn't have an option for that, you just have to make a best guess or a lower financial commitment.

Originally Posted by scoobysteve
Really what about all those Arabian fathers that buy into EB5 just so they can send their children to American Schools, and never even get to step foot on US soil.
Its seems you guys on here enjoy putting down any aspirations of living in what we think to be a great country.
What about them? The EB-5 is for targeted *investing*. That sounds very much like what you say these guys are doing (sort of stupid though, as Permanent Residents have to declare their global income to the US...)

I think you are WAY misreading the comments here.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
OK Moderator remove me as I cant see where the hell I can remove myself.
I can't and you can't. You can contact the Administrator if you think removing yourself from the site will solve the problem.
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
How about 500,000 Dollars and 10 jobs. in this time of hardship isn't that enough. The reason why I blame the UK is that if I was from a load more other countries, like Potugal where I live I could at least enter the green card lottery.

Listen folks I am not being unreasonable here, when anyone is about to invest a lot of money they need reassurances that things will work out.
I just want to know for certain that me and my wife could in fact live in the US, before we dump all our hard earned cash into a EB5 project. On the surface we love being in the US, but having a vacation in a country does not give you a insight to how it is like to live in that country.
You don't even know if you'll even GET the EB5 visa. They don't just dole them in unlimited quantities.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0048f3d6a1RCRD

A 3 month visit in winter one year and a 3 month visit in summer another year plus plenty of research should give you a reasonable indication of how life might be in the US.

In any event, if you didn't like it, what would stop you selling up and leaving?
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Default Re: If I apply for a B1/B2 and do not get it. Will I have problems entering on a VWP

Most regular posters on this site enjoy being very blunt and pessimistic when answering queries about people who aspire to live in the US.

In this case they are right. Given your circumstances, the B2 could be refused, and afterwards you could have problems at immigration.

However, there are many other ways to live in the US. Either through marriage, work or investment. I suggest you examine in detail all other options.

You would have a lot more chance of getting a B2 if it was for an extended holiday, rather than "trying out living in the US"
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
How about 500,000 Dollars and 10 jobs. in this time of hardship isn't that enough. .
Not quite like that with with the Regional centers

You can Invest your $500k in a cattle farm in South Dakota
and forget it ...

You can lie by the pool at one of your Florida homes all day ...
and never even see a cow ...
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
How about 500,000 Dollars and 10 jobs. in this time of hardship isn't that enough. The reason why I blame the UK is that if I was from a load more other countries, like Potugal where I live I could at least enter the green card lottery.
Hi:

You are considering living in the US permanently and you are upset that many people born in the UK have chosen to live in the US? How is that the fault of the British Government? There has long been a fairly strong affinity between the US and the UK and there are lot of US expats in the UK [my dual national brother-in-law being one of them].

The EB-5 category is now 18 years old. There was a lot of hostility to having it enacted in the first place -- it sticks in many people's craw that someone might have the ability to "buy a green card." So, the hook is that 10 jobs -- the thing does not exist for YOUR benefit. Also, the idea is a true "at risk" investment.

BTW, looking for investments is a valid B-1 purpose to visit. And there can be true "dual intent" here. However, the term "dual intent" is now misused these days for reasons that would require a long essay which I don't intend to write.
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BTW, looking for investments is a valid B-1 purpose to visit. And there can be true "dual intent" here. However, the term "dual intent" is now misused these days for reasons that would require a long essay which I don't intend to write.
What an excellent example of a reason to use a lawyer (how about a team of specialists) if you're planning on making a large investment.

Looks like a lawyer helping with the application could turn the OP's "I wanna test drive living in the US" to a legitimate statement of his purpose here.
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Looks like a lawyer helping with the application could turn the OP's "I wanna test drive living in the US" to a legitimate statement of his purpose here.
What a shame the OP's tucked tail and buggered off. He won't be back... he think's we don't like him because he's got money. His being a jerk has nothing to do with it, I suppose!

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
What a shame the OP's tucked tail and buggered off. He won't be back... he think's we don't like him because he's got money. His being a jerk has nothing to do with it, I suppose!

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