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Old Sep 23rd 2002, 7:20 am
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Default If denied by UK, will it affect US approval?

It's an odd question, but I'd like a debate settled by my husband and I.

We filed his I-130 in March and since then have applied for my visa to the UK
to wait things out with him over there. In the meantime, my application for a
UK entry clearance is in review and it is possible they may refuse it for
various reasons (the main reason being we don't have enough money). A friend
of my husband's who is a solicitor (but with no immigration experience) told
him that "a friend of a friend" said if I am refused a visa for the UK, then it
will affect his visa to the US. She said that the IND will alert the US
Embassy and we will be blacklisted from both countries. Neither of us have
criminal convictions, which I guess could make it possible.

I think it is absurd, and can't imagine this happening. I see each visa as
being unrelated. My husband thinks that this will happen if we're refused this
visa. Has anyone heard of this? Should we be looking into immigrating to
another country, or should I start building a rowboat to live in the Atlantic?


Thanks for your advice,

Ash
 
Old Sep 23rd 2002, 7:25 am
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Default Re: If denied by UK, will it affect US approval?

I've wondered about the same thing before - just in a casual "what if"
viewpoint. I really can't see it. The government agencies have enough
problems getting information across within their own government let alone
have it given to another government.

What could be a problem, though, is the money. As I understood it it was
more vague but otherwise less onerous to show adequate fiances to the IND
than to the INS. So, if you weren't going to be able to have the level of
support in one direction, why would you have it in another? In either case
you should be able to use someone else as a guarantor / joint sponsor / call
it what you will.

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    > It's an odd question, but I'd like a debate settled by my husband and I.
    > We filed his I-130 in March and since then have applied for my visa to the
UK
    > to wait things out with him over there. In the meantime, my application
for a
    > UK entry clearance is in review and it is possible they may refuse it for
    > various reasons (the main reason being we don't have enough money). A
friend
    > of my husband's who is a solicitor (but with no immigration experience)
told
    > him that "a friend of a friend" said if I am refused a visa for the UK,
then it
    > will affect his visa to the US. She said that the IND will alert the US
    > Embassy and we will be blacklisted from both countries. Neither of us
have
    > criminal convictions, which I guess could make it possible.
    > I think it is absurd, and can't imagine this happening. I see each visa
as
    > being unrelated. My husband thinks that this will happen if we're refused
this
    > visa. Has anyone heard of this? Should we be looking into immigrating to
    > another country, or should I start building a rowboat to live in the
Atlantic?
    > Thanks for your advice,
    > Ash
 
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Default Re: If denied by UK, will it affect US approval?

If refusal is based only on financial inability to sponsor then I can't see that the US would blacklist you. In the US you are allowed to have a co-sponsor for the financial affidavit of support and thus your financial inability is not a factor. As long as either a US citizen and/or permanent resident with adequate income and/or assets is willing to sponsor your UK husband, the US Consulate should have no objection to your petition on those grounds.

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Old Sep 23rd 2002, 8:11 am
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Default Re: If denied by UK, will it affect US approval?

if your spouse has applied for a visa to stay in england with you, then sorry i do not have that answer, but i know your spouse can enter the UK for a six month stay but with work restrictions, my husband has travelled with no problems, but good luck
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Old Sep 24th 2002, 1:55 am
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Default Re: If denied by UK, will it affect US approval?

Thank you Andy and Rete for your responses. I didn't believe that we could be
blacklisted if the UK denied us for financial reasons, because we would have a
different sponsor (US citizen as opposed to a UK citizen as my UK visa
sponsor). In my interview at the British consulate, the Vice-Consul's
reservation was that both my husband and his mum (a sponsor)'s bank accounts
were (barely) in overdraft at the end of the last statement. My mother-in-law
forgot to give me her savings account statements, which show her ability to
sponsor us financially; so I don't think in the end that we will actually be
denied for lack of money.

The real problem, which I should have included in my original post, but am too
ashamed of to mention freely, is that the Vice-Consul has accused me of selling
drugs. In one of the emails that I had submitted about "proof of relationship"
in my application, I mention a problem my husband's friend had when his
girlfriend caught him selling drugs. It was a few sentences hidden among a
very long email that obviously I didn't screen very well before sending it. In
the interview, he showed me the email and interrogated me on drug activity of
myself and my husband. I have never sold drugs, nor have I been arrested (from
his questioning, it seems that he tried to catch me in a lie about it) and told
him so. Neither has my husband. However, I don't think he was satisfied with
my answers and decided to send the application to London for review because of
"money and the drugs thing".

So at the moment I'm living with my (very huge) mistake of allowing this email
get into the application. I'm hoping that whoever reviews the application will
see our lack of criminal history and believe it. However, there is a chance
that things may remain pear-shaped and I could be denied. If that is the case,
I didn't think that this would affect my husband's I-130 application...but with
my luck, anything can go wrong. We'll obviously get a chance to appeal if
denied, but could the INS really use this against me?

Thanks for putting up with my out of blue questions and posts. I really
appreciate all the information I get from this newsgroup.

Ash

    >If refusal is based only on financial inability to sponsor then I can't
    >see that the US would blacklist you. In the US you are allowed to have
    >a co-sponsor for the financial affidavit of support and thus your
    >financial inability is not a factor. As long as either a US citizen
    >and/or permanent resident with adequate income and/or assets is willing
    >to sponsor your UK husband, the US Consulate should have no objection to
    >your petition on those grounds.
    >Rete
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