I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
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I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
One of the documentation requirements on the I-751 was to send in two affidavits written by third parties who have personal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritial relationship.
What I did was download a generic sample of a witness affidavit off the internet then customized it towards the associate and how they knew our relationship. I typed it all up myself and left blanks for them to fill in there name, address, and signature, because I did not want to impose upon them by asking them to write out an 'essay' to create it. These associates of mine, like anybody else have busy lives, families and work full time, so I took care of the time consuming part. (in other words, the affidavits were not completely written by third parties, just filled in the blanks)
I then took these affidavits to my associates and explained what they were about, then drove them to a notary so that they and a notary can do the offical signing.
And these are what I sent in to the service center.
- Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
-USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
Also on the instructions it says about the people that sign the affidavit... (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
What I did was download a generic sample of a witness affidavit off the internet then customized it towards the associate and how they knew our relationship. I typed it all up myself and left blanks for them to fill in there name, address, and signature, because I did not want to impose upon them by asking them to write out an 'essay' to create it. These associates of mine, like anybody else have busy lives, families and work full time, so I took care of the time consuming part. (in other words, the affidavits were not completely written by third parties, just filled in the blanks)
I then took these affidavits to my associates and explained what they were about, then drove them to a notary so that they and a notary can do the offical signing.
And these are what I sent in to the service center.
- Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
-USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
Also on the instructions it says about the people that sign the affidavit... (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
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Re: I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
Also on the instructions it says about the people that sign the affidavit... (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
[b] What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
[b] What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
I have heard of the I-751 applicants being contacted by USCIS directly, to verify information. But I believe this was for an I-751 with waiver case, not a jointly filed I-751.
Rene
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Re: I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
One of the documentation requirements on the I-751 was to send in two affidavits written by third parties who have personal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritial relationship.
What I did was download a generic sample of a witness affidavit off the internet then customized it towards the associate and how they knew our relationship. I typed it all up myself and left blanks for them to fill in there name, address, and signature, because I did not want to impose upon them by asking them to write out an 'essay' to create it. These associates of mine, like anybody else have busy lives, families and work full time, so I took care of the time consuming part. (in other words, the affidavits were not completely written by third parties, just filled in the blanks)
I then took these affidavits to my associates and explained what they were about, then drove them to a notary so that they and a notary can do the offical signing.
And these are what I sent in to the service center.
- Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
-USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
Also on the instructions it says about the people that sign the affidavit... (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
What I did was download a generic sample of a witness affidavit off the internet then customized it towards the associate and how they knew our relationship. I typed it all up myself and left blanks for them to fill in there name, address, and signature, because I did not want to impose upon them by asking them to write out an 'essay' to create it. These associates of mine, like anybody else have busy lives, families and work full time, so I took care of the time consuming part. (in other words, the affidavits were not completely written by third parties, just filled in the blanks)
I then took these affidavits to my associates and explained what they were about, then drove them to a notary so that they and a notary can do the offical signing.
And these are what I sent in to the service center.
- Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
-USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
Also on the instructions it says about the people that sign the affidavit... (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
What exactly does this mean? Are they going to send a letter to my associates to make them take off work, drive 3 hours each direction to the immigration field office just for a 3 minute interrogation about the affidavit they signed? Or would the officer be able to do it over the phone?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
Please re-read the list of "suggested" items. To be honest, I think that a copy of the birth certificate of the kid and a picture of threesome with daddykins holding the child drooling over his shoulder will often suffice.
Also, those "affidavits" are often the weakest form of evidence. There is a difference of professional judgement on their use. I simply don't use them if there is strong evidence of a valid marriage.
Also, the law permits a "declaration" under penalty of perjury with what I call magic language and you then don't need the notary.
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Re: I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
Do you think that these affidavits will be acceptable?
USCIS does not have an affidavit form that I was suppose to use do they?
How often does one get called upon to testify?
In my 10+ years of following immigration newsgroups... never!
Ian
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Re: I-751 third party Affidavits, witness to the relationship
It is not a requirement but a suggestion. They did not have to be notarized. The signer only had to say something in the letter like I affirm that I have known ......