How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Mar 31st 2005, 5:35 pm
#31
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
[email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:15:
>>It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
>
>
> I'm not convinced. How are the land borders with Canada and Mexico
> controlled? How do airlines scan Green Cards that can't be scanned?
> Too many gaps for the information to be reliable.
INA 231. If GCs can't be scanned, the information is entered manually.
As for the land borders, they are in the process of installing machines
that scan passports and visas. That's also mandated by Congress, and is
supposed to be fully operational at all land border crossings sometime
later this year, I believe.
In short, the times of leisurly checks are over. All a consequence of 9/11.
> The reality is that people do whatever they can get away with. Your
> advice, though well intentioned, is probably more suitable for someone
> from a Third World hellhole for whom it is a matter of life and death
> than for someone such as myself.
The reality is that you just have outed yourself as a piece of arrogant
sh*t.
Your hellhole in Europe or whereever you are from is no better than a
"Third World hellhole."
May I remind you that the so-called "shoe-bomber" came from the
"hellhole" that is the UK???
Now get lost.
*PLONK!*
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>>It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
>
>
> I'm not convinced. How are the land borders with Canada and Mexico
> controlled? How do airlines scan Green Cards that can't be scanned?
> Too many gaps for the information to be reliable.
INA 231. If GCs can't be scanned, the information is entered manually.
As for the land borders, they are in the process of installing machines
that scan passports and visas. That's also mandated by Congress, and is
supposed to be fully operational at all land border crossings sometime
later this year, I believe.
In short, the times of leisurly checks are over. All a consequence of 9/11.
> The reality is that people do whatever they can get away with. Your
> advice, though well intentioned, is probably more suitable for someone
> from a Third World hellhole for whom it is a matter of life and death
> than for someone such as myself.
The reality is that you just have outed yourself as a piece of arrogant
sh*t.
Your hellhole in Europe or whereever you are from is no better than a
"Third World hellhole."
May I remind you that the so-called "shoe-bomber" came from the
"hellhole" that is the UK???
Now get lost.
*PLONK!*
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Mar 31st 2005, 6:01 pm
#32
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Boiler wrote:
> > Grizzly wrote on 03/31/05 08:02:
> >
> > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:20:49 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Grizzly wrote on 03/30/05 23:32:
> > >>>>That is illegal, and eventually will get you
> > >>>>into trouble.
> > >>>I have no problem with it being "illegal", although I'm not
quite
> > >>>sure
> > >>>what you mean. I've been keeping my options open by keeping my
> > >>>Green
> > >>>Card, but it's becoming a matter of indifference.
> > >>A Permanent Resident has to reside in the US. You lose the GC the
> > >>moment
> > >>you abandon your residence in the US. Even though INS/CIS may
have
> > >>not
> > >>caught up with you, you are using your GC to enter even though
you
> > >>have
> > >>abandoned it. That's the illegal part.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not abandoned my domicile/residence. I maintain bank
> > > accounts,
> > > credit cards, a US "driver license" etc. However circumstances
> > > require my frequent and extended absences from the US. As
regards
> > > the illegality aspect, having one's Green Card taken away at the
> > > point
> > > of entry is merely an administrative procedure, not a criminal
> > > conviction.
> >
> >
> > And do you pay US taxes on your worldwide income? File tax returns
as
> > resident?
> > I also notice your sudden change in formulations. All of a sudden
you
> > don't "just visit once a year for a couple of weeks," you have
> > "absences" from the US.
> > As I said, just visiting once in a while is not enough to keep the
GC.
> > With your change in formulations, you seem to have accepted that.
> >
> > >>>True, they no longer ask how long one has been out of the
country
> > >>>at
> > >>>the point of entry, but my absences have never been questioned.
> > >>>I suspect what they see on the screen is only the entry dates,
not
> > >>>the
> > >>>departure dates.
> > >>They see the departure dates as well. They get that information
from
> > >>the
> > >>airlines (a new law that was enacted after 9/11.)
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no evidence that this information, in a usable form,
> > > actually
> > > reaches the immigration people at the point of entry.
> >
> >
> > It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
> >
> > >>>>A Permanent Resident has to *permanently reside" in the US. It
is
> > >>>>called
> > >>>>"permanent Resident" for a reason.
> > >>>But a permanent resident doesn't have to be permanently
physically
> > >>>present in the US.
> > >>Sure, but *all* trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
Living
> > >>and
> > >>working abroad and visiting the US once in a while is not a
> > >>temporary
> > >>absence.
> > >>Here is something to read:
> > >>http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
> > >>http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
> > >>http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
> > >>And many more...
> > >
> > >
> > > These are unnecessarily alarmist, especially the last of the
three,
> > > which borders on paranoia. I've crossed the Atlantic hundreds of
> > > times - this just doesn't happen.
> >
> > Paranoia or not, it *does* happen. I heard from people who did the
> > same
> > as you and got questioned for hours, and that was before 9/11...
> > Closing your eyes before reality doesn't change it.
> > All stays abroad have to be temporary in nature. Period. End of
story.
> >
> > -Joe
> > --
> > I am not a lawyer.
> > For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
> I have seen other postings from those who have had issues with their
GC
> entry, some sucesfull, some not.
> What we do not know is what the chances are of being questioned in
> depth.
> Inevitably you will hear the tales of woe here more than no issue
> entries.
> Personally I think its only an issue if it matters to you, if its
just a
> coveniance then fair enough, take the chance.
This is what I plan on doing. At least for a while longer. Flying
over twice a year is getting expensive, not to mention a pain in the
ass.
> Not sure I would take a chance if it had major ramifications.
Precisely my point.
> > Grizzly wrote on 03/31/05 08:02:
> >
> > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:20:49 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Grizzly wrote on 03/30/05 23:32:
> > >>>>That is illegal, and eventually will get you
> > >>>>into trouble.
> > >>>I have no problem with it being "illegal", although I'm not
quite
> > >>>sure
> > >>>what you mean. I've been keeping my options open by keeping my
> > >>>Green
> > >>>Card, but it's becoming a matter of indifference.
> > >>A Permanent Resident has to reside in the US. You lose the GC the
> > >>moment
> > >>you abandon your residence in the US. Even though INS/CIS may
have
> > >>not
> > >>caught up with you, you are using your GC to enter even though
you
> > >>have
> > >>abandoned it. That's the illegal part.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not abandoned my domicile/residence. I maintain bank
> > > accounts,
> > > credit cards, a US "driver license" etc. However circumstances
> > > require my frequent and extended absences from the US. As
regards
> > > the illegality aspect, having one's Green Card taken away at the
> > > point
> > > of entry is merely an administrative procedure, not a criminal
> > > conviction.
> >
> >
> > And do you pay US taxes on your worldwide income? File tax returns
as
> > resident?
> > I also notice your sudden change in formulations. All of a sudden
you
> > don't "just visit once a year for a couple of weeks," you have
> > "absences" from the US.
> > As I said, just visiting once in a while is not enough to keep the
GC.
> > With your change in formulations, you seem to have accepted that.
> >
> > >>>True, they no longer ask how long one has been out of the
country
> > >>>at
> > >>>the point of entry, but my absences have never been questioned.
> > >>>I suspect what they see on the screen is only the entry dates,
not
> > >>>the
> > >>>departure dates.
> > >>They see the departure dates as well. They get that information
from
> > >>the
> > >>airlines (a new law that was enacted after 9/11.)
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no evidence that this information, in a usable form,
> > > actually
> > > reaches the immigration people at the point of entry.
> >
> >
> > It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
> >
> > >>>>A Permanent Resident has to *permanently reside" in the US. It
is
> > >>>>called
> > >>>>"permanent Resident" for a reason.
> > >>>But a permanent resident doesn't have to be permanently
physically
> > >>>present in the US.
> > >>Sure, but *all* trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
Living
> > >>and
> > >>working abroad and visiting the US once in a while is not a
> > >>temporary
> > >>absence.
> > >>Here is something to read:
> > >>http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
> > >>http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
> > >>http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
> > >>And many more...
> > >
> > >
> > > These are unnecessarily alarmist, especially the last of the
three,
> > > which borders on paranoia. I've crossed the Atlantic hundreds of
> > > times - this just doesn't happen.
> >
> > Paranoia or not, it *does* happen. I heard from people who did the
> > same
> > as you and got questioned for hours, and that was before 9/11...
> > Closing your eyes before reality doesn't change it.
> > All stays abroad have to be temporary in nature. Period. End of
story.
> >
> > -Joe
> > --
> > I am not a lawyer.
> > For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
> I have seen other postings from those who have had issues with their
GC
> entry, some sucesfull, some not.
> What we do not know is what the chances are of being questioned in
> depth.
> Inevitably you will hear the tales of woe here more than no issue
> entries.
> Personally I think its only an issue if it matters to you, if its
just a
> coveniance then fair enough, take the chance.
This is what I plan on doing. At least for a while longer. Flying
over twice a year is getting expensive, not to mention a pain in the
ass.
> Not sure I would take a chance if it had major ramifications.
Precisely my point.
Apr 1st 2005, 12:41 am
#33
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Location: Mass.
Posts: 224
Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Originally Posted by Joe Feise
[email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:21:
>>i wouldn't bet on that! they may not get the info from the airlines
>>necessarily but they sure have it, or at least part of it...
>
>
> And nobody seems to know which part they have.
Of course it is known. You just act like the three monkeys, you refuse
to see it. It is in INA 231:
"INA: ACT 231 - LISTS OF ALIEN AND CITIZEN PASSENGERS *ARRIVING* OR
*DEPARTING*; RECORD OF RESIDENT ALIENS AND CITIZENS LEAVING PERMANENTLY
FOR FOREIGN COUNTRY
SEC. 231. 1/ (a) ARRIVAL MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or
aircraft transporting any person to any seaport or airport of the United
States from any place outside the United States, it shall be the duty of
an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide to any
United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i)) at that
port manifest information about each passenger, crew member, and other
occupant transported on such vessel or aircraft prior to arrival at that
port.
(b) DEPARTURE MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or aircraft taking
passengers on board at any seaport or airport of the United States, who
are destined to any place outside the United States, it shall be the
duty of an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide
any United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i))before
departure from such port manifest information about each passenger, crew
member, and other occupant to be transported.
(c) CONTENTS OF MANIFEST- The information to be provided with respect to
each person listed on a manifest required to be provided under
subsection (a) or (b) shall include--
(1) complete name;
(2) date of birth;
(3) citizenship;
(4) sex;
(5) passport number and country of issuance;
(6) country of residence;
(7) United States visa number, date, and place of issuance, where
applicable;
(8) alien registration number, where applicable;
(9) United States address while in the United States; and
(10) such other information the Attorney General, in consultation with
the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Treasury determines as
being necessary for the identification of the persons transported and
for the enforcement of the immigration laws and to protect safety and
national security."
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>>i wouldn't bet on that! they may not get the info from the airlines
>>necessarily but they sure have it, or at least part of it...
>
>
> And nobody seems to know which part they have.
Of course it is known. You just act like the three monkeys, you refuse
to see it. It is in INA 231:
"INA: ACT 231 - LISTS OF ALIEN AND CITIZEN PASSENGERS *ARRIVING* OR
*DEPARTING*; RECORD OF RESIDENT ALIENS AND CITIZENS LEAVING PERMANENTLY
FOR FOREIGN COUNTRY
SEC. 231. 1/ (a) ARRIVAL MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or
aircraft transporting any person to any seaport or airport of the United
States from any place outside the United States, it shall be the duty of
an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide to any
United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i)) at that
port manifest information about each passenger, crew member, and other
occupant transported on such vessel or aircraft prior to arrival at that
port.
(b) DEPARTURE MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or aircraft taking
passengers on board at any seaport or airport of the United States, who
are destined to any place outside the United States, it shall be the
duty of an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide
any United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i))before
departure from such port manifest information about each passenger, crew
member, and other occupant to be transported.
(c) CONTENTS OF MANIFEST- The information to be provided with respect to
each person listed on a manifest required to be provided under
subsection (a) or (b) shall include--
(1) complete name;
(2) date of birth;
(3) citizenship;
(4) sex;
(5) passport number and country of issuance;
(6) country of residence;
(7) United States visa number, date, and place of issuance, where
applicable;
(8) alien registration number, where applicable;
(9) United States address while in the United States; and
(10) such other information the Attorney General, in consultation with
the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Treasury determines as
being necessary for the identification of the persons transported and
for the enforcement of the immigration laws and to protect safety and
national security."
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
hmm when i flew out international last fall the airline personnel only looked at my passport...
cars obviously don't issue manifests when they leave the country. having said that even though they don't you can bet the bank that your plate is being scanned when you take that cruise over no man's land up to the canadian border control point. never used to be that way in the old days.
so, bottom line is that even though land crossings have no formal check for passengers leaving the US in cars, there could be 'some' info available to uscis. there are camera's all over now on the US side.
have nice day and happy travelling!
Apr 1st 2005, 7:25 am
#34
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
"silvermine" <member37276@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> hmm when i flew out international last fall the airline personnel only
> looked at my passport...
Interesting. They have always asked for my green card, even before 9/11.
Although it's only recently that they've swiped it when I check in.
Lucy
news:[email protected] m...
> hmm when i flew out international last fall the airline personnel only
> looked at my passport...
Interesting. They have always asked for my green card, even before 9/11.
Although it's only recently that they've swiped it when I check in.
Lucy
Apr 1st 2005, 3:54 pm
#35
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Joe Feise wrote:
> [email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:15:
> >>It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
> >
> >
> > I'm not convinced. How are the land borders with Canada and Mexico
> > controlled? How do airlines scan Green Cards that can't be
scanned?
> > Too many gaps for the information to be reliable.
> INA 231. If GCs can't be scanned, the information is entered
manually.
It doesn't happen.
> > The reality is that people do whatever they can get away with.
Your
> > advice, though well intentioned, is probably more suitable for
someone
> > from a Third World hellhole for whom it is a matter of life and
death
> > than for someone such as myself.
> The reality is that you just have outed yourself as a piece of
arrogant
> sh*t.
> Your hellhole in Europe or whereever you are from is no better than a
> "Third World hellhole."
Don't get hysterical with me, sunshine.
> May I remind you that the so-called "shoe-bomber" came from the
> "hellhole" that is the UK???
And may I remind *you* that the Oklahoma City bomber came from none
other than the US?
> Now get lost.
> *PLONK!*
Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
citizens, idiot.
> [email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:15:
> >>It does. They know the exact duration of your stay abroad.
> >
> >
> > I'm not convinced. How are the land borders with Canada and Mexico
> > controlled? How do airlines scan Green Cards that can't be
scanned?
> > Too many gaps for the information to be reliable.
> INA 231. If GCs can't be scanned, the information is entered
manually.
It doesn't happen.
> > The reality is that people do whatever they can get away with.
Your
> > advice, though well intentioned, is probably more suitable for
someone
> > from a Third World hellhole for whom it is a matter of life and
death
> > than for someone such as myself.
> The reality is that you just have outed yourself as a piece of
arrogant
> sh*t.
> Your hellhole in Europe or whereever you are from is no better than a
> "Third World hellhole."
Don't get hysterical with me, sunshine.
> May I remind you that the so-called "shoe-bomber" came from the
> "hellhole" that is the UK???
And may I remind *you* that the Oklahoma City bomber came from none
other than the US?
> Now get lost.
> *PLONK!*
Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
citizens, idiot.
Apr 1st 2005, 4:03 pm
#36
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Joe Feise wrote:
> [email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:21:
> >>i wouldn't bet on that! they may not get the info from the airlines
> >>necessarily but they sure have it, or at least part of it...
> >
> >
> > And nobody seems to know which part they have.
> Of course it is known. You just act like the three monkeys, you
refuse
> to see it. It is in INA 231:
> "INA: ACT 231 - LISTS OF ALIEN AND CITIZEN PASSENGERS *ARRIVING* OR
> *DEPARTING*; RECORD OF RESIDENT ALIENS AND CITIZENS LEAVING
PERMANENTLY
> FOR FOREIGN COUNTRY
> SEC. 231. 1/ (a) ARRIVAL MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or
> aircraft transporting any person to any seaport or airport of the
United
> States from any place outside the United States, it shall be the duty
of
> an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide to any
> United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i)) at that
> port manifest information about each passenger, crew member, and
other
> occupant transported on such vessel or aircraft prior to arrival at
that
> port.
> (b) DEPARTURE MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or aircraft
taking
> passengers on board at any seaport or airport of the United States,
who
> are destined to any place outside the United States, it shall be the
> duty of an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to
provide
> any United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection
(i))before
> departure from such port manifest information about each passenger,
crew
> member, and other occupant to be transported.
> (c) CONTENTS OF MANIFEST- The information to be provided with respect
to
> each person listed on a manifest required to be provided under
> subsection (a) or (b) shall include--
> (1) complete name;
> (2) date of birth;
> (3) citizenship;
> (4) sex;
> (5) passport number and country of issuance;
> (6) country of residence;
> (7) United States visa number, date, and place of issuance, where
> applicable;
> (8) alien registration number, where applicable;
> (9) United States address while in the United States; and
> (10) such other information the Attorney General, in consultation
with
> the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Treasury determines as
> being necessary for the identification of the persons transported and
> for the enforcement of the immigration laws and to protect safety and
> national security."
You left out the bit about the Attorney General allowing for exemptions
to the Act.
And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight. Not
once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
> [email protected] wrote on 03/31/05 22:21:
> >>i wouldn't bet on that! they may not get the info from the airlines
> >>necessarily but they sure have it, or at least part of it...
> >
> >
> > And nobody seems to know which part they have.
> Of course it is known. You just act like the three monkeys, you
refuse
> to see it. It is in INA 231:
> "INA: ACT 231 - LISTS OF ALIEN AND CITIZEN PASSENGERS *ARRIVING* OR
> *DEPARTING*; RECORD OF RESIDENT ALIENS AND CITIZENS LEAVING
PERMANENTLY
> FOR FOREIGN COUNTRY
> SEC. 231. 1/ (a) ARRIVAL MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or
> aircraft transporting any person to any seaport or airport of the
United
> States from any place outside the United States, it shall be the duty
of
> an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to provide to any
> United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection (i)) at that
> port manifest information about each passenger, crew member, and
other
> occupant transported on such vessel or aircraft prior to arrival at
that
> port.
> (b) DEPARTURE MANIFESTS- For each commercial vessel or aircraft
taking
> passengers on board at any seaport or airport of the United States,
who
> are destined to any place outside the United States, it shall be the
> duty of an appropriate official specified in subsection (d) to
provide
> any United States *border officer* (as defined in subsection
(i))before
> departure from such port manifest information about each passenger,
crew
> member, and other occupant to be transported.
> (c) CONTENTS OF MANIFEST- The information to be provided with respect
to
> each person listed on a manifest required to be provided under
> subsection (a) or (b) shall include--
> (1) complete name;
> (2) date of birth;
> (3) citizenship;
> (4) sex;
> (5) passport number and country of issuance;
> (6) country of residence;
> (7) United States visa number, date, and place of issuance, where
> applicable;
> (8) alien registration number, where applicable;
> (9) United States address while in the United States; and
> (10) such other information the Attorney General, in consultation
with
> the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Treasury determines as
> being necessary for the identification of the persons transported and
> for the enforcement of the immigration laws and to protect safety and
> national security."
You left out the bit about the Attorney General allowing for exemptions
to the Act.
And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight. Not
once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
Apr 2nd 2005, 2:08 am
#37
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
[email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 20:54:
> Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> citizens, idiot.
It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and refuse
to see reality.
You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
don't know it yet.
Troll.
*PLONK!*
> Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> citizens, idiot.
It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and refuse
to see reality.
You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
don't know it yet.
Troll.
*PLONK!*
Apr 2nd 2005, 2:12 am
#38
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
[email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 21:03:
>
> And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight. Not
> once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
> means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
LOL. You obviously have no clue whatsoever.
They have your address already, from when you bought the ticket.
Geez, showing again to the world that you are a complete idiot, eh?
Troll.
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
> And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight. Not
> once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
> means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
LOL. You obviously have no clue whatsoever.
They have your address already, from when you bought the ticket.
Geez, showing again to the world that you are a complete idiot, eh?
Troll.
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Apr 2nd 2005, 4:11 am
#39
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Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Joe Feise wrote:
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 20:54:
> > Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> > citizens, idiot.
> It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
> conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and
refuse
> to see reality.
I deal with reality every day, cretin. It's people like you who give
erroneous advice based on theory.
> You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
> don't know it yet.
No, I still have my Green Card. Your advice is less than useless.
> Troll.
> *PLONK!*
You already "plonked" me before, cretin. You know as little about
plonking
as you apparently do about immigration issues.
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 20:54:
> > Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> > citizens, idiot.
> It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
> conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and
refuse
> to see reality.
I deal with reality every day, cretin. It's people like you who give
erroneous advice based on theory.
> You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
> don't know it yet.
No, I still have my Green Card. Your advice is less than useless.
> Troll.
> *PLONK!*
You already "plonked" me before, cretin. You know as little about
plonking
as you apparently do about immigration issues.
Apr 2nd 2005, 4:11 am
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Joe Feise wrote:
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 20:54:
> > Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> > citizens, idiot.
> It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
> conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and
refuse
> to see reality.
I deal with reality every day, cretin. It's people like you who give
erroneous advice based on theory.
> You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
> don't know it yet.
No, I still have my Green Card. Your advice is less than useless.
> Troll.
> *PLONK!*
You already "plonked" me before, cretin. You know as little about
plonking
as you apparently do about immigration issues.
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 20:54:
> > Save your misleading immigration advice for your fellow Third World
> > citizens, idiot.
> It is always funny to see how idiots jumpt to completely wrong
> conclusions. And that just because they live in a dream world and
refuse
> to see reality.
I deal with reality every day, cretin. It's people like you who give
erroneous advice based on theory.
> You are the one who misleads people. You have lost your GC, you just
> don't know it yet.
No, I still have my Green Card. Your advice is less than useless.
> Troll.
> *PLONK!*
You already "plonked" me before, cretin. You know as little about
plonking
as you apparently do about immigration issues.
Apr 2nd 2005, 4:17 am
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How many months can a green-card holder be out of US?
Joe Feise wrote:
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 21:03:
> >
> > And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight.
Not
> > once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
> > means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
> LOL. You obviously have no clue whatsoever.
> They have your address already, from when you bought the ticket.
> Geez, showing again to the world that you are a complete idiot, eh?
You know even less than your signature suggests. When I buy a
round-trip ticket online to the USA in the UK, they don't even require
my UK address, much less any US address.
> Troll.
Cretin. I have amended your signature appropriately.
> --
> I am not a lawyer.
> For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
> For unreliable and misleading advice, just keep reading my posts.
> [email protected] wrote on 04/01/05 21:03:
> >
> > And you've obviously never checked in for an international flight.
Not
> > once has anybody asked for my "US address while in the US". Which
> > means that the airline is already in violation of the above.
> LOL. You obviously have no clue whatsoever.
> They have your address already, from when you bought the ticket.
> Geez, showing again to the world that you are a complete idiot, eh?
You know even less than your signature suggests. When I buy a
round-trip ticket online to the USA in the UK, they don't even require
my UK address, much less any US address.
> Troll.
Cretin. I have amended your signature appropriately.
> --
> I am not a lawyer.
> For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
> For unreliable and misleading advice, just keep reading my posts.
