How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Aug 30th 2004, 5:23 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage to gain a green card.
Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
Patrick
Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage to gain a green card.
Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
Patrick
Aug 30th 2004, 6:00 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Boiler wrote:
> Well you have signed up for the I864 when you submit it.
> Is there a requirement to update it?, I was under the impression you
> could rather than you must, but to have an updated one in your
> backpocket just in case, especially if you have been waiting some time.
What about the situation where a petitioner just barely makes it over
the poverty guidelines when the original I-864 was filed or has a joint
sponsor say and 1 1/2 later they are unemployed or lost the assets that
they were using to qualify or say the joint sponsor dies? Should the
USCIS still allow the alien to adjust status given the fact that their
sponsorship is shakey or non-existence anymore?
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How come you don't ever hear about gruntled employees? And who has been
dissing them anyhow?
> Well you have signed up for the I864 when you submit it.
> Is there a requirement to update it?, I was under the impression you
> could rather than you must, but to have an updated one in your
> backpocket just in case, especially if you have been waiting some time.
What about the situation where a petitioner just barely makes it over
the poverty guidelines when the original I-864 was filed or has a joint
sponsor say and 1 1/2 later they are unemployed or lost the assets that
they were using to qualify or say the joint sponsor dies? Should the
USCIS still allow the alien to adjust status given the fact that their
sponsorship is shakey or non-existence anymore?
--
How come you don't ever hear about gruntled employees? And who has been
dissing them anyhow?
Aug 30th 2004, 6:05 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
inquisitive40 wrote:
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
'Round here I think it's called /dev/null! :-(
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All women are idiots... and I married their queen.
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
'Round here I think it's called /dev/null! :-(
--
All women are idiots... and I married their queen.
Aug 30th 2004, 6:44 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Originally Posted by Andrew DeFaria
inquisitive40 wrote:
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
'Round here I think it's called /dev/null! :-(
--
All women are idiots... and I married their queen.
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
'Round here I think it's called /dev/null! :-(
--
All women are idiots... and I married their queen.
Patrick
Aug 30th 2004, 6:49 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
jeffreyhy <member184@british_expats.com> wrote:
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
Aug 30th 2004, 7:08 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Originally Posted by Andrew DeFaria
inquisitive40 wrote:
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> So then the question for me is, if a sponsor files an I-864 and then
> later on in the process BEFORE the interview decides they want to
> withdraw their I-864, how can that be done OR can it be done?
I believe you simply send a letter to the USCIS office stating that you
are withdrawing support.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
No system that I know of. But as part of his letter withdrawing his sponsorship of the I-130 (and related I-864) he noted the facts, as blandly and non-emotively as humanly possible, which led him to believe that his marriage was invalid because of fraud -- in his case that his whatever-she-is-but-she-ain't-his-wife happens to have, despite sworn statements to the contrary, a very much alive husband in another country
Who knows what USCIS will do with it - he has taken my advice to raise no further inquiry now that USCIS has confirmed that it has accepted his withdrawal of sponsorship. He's focused on what really matters - getting a legal declaration of nullity and going on with his life. So far, she's fighting tooth and nail, so who knows what will happen. /sigh
Last edited by Dekka's Angel; Aug 30th 2004 at 7:11 pm.
Aug 30th 2004, 7:19 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Originally Posted by Dekka's Angel
This is what my scammed friend did. It took 2 months, but he received a letter from the local USCIS office confirming that it had ceased processing of his I-130 and related I-864 for his not-sure-what-to-call-her "spouse" as of the date of his request. This was well after the date of their AOS interview, but before adjudication, so I imagine this would work for the OP as well.
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
No system that I know of. But as part of his letter withdrawing his sponsorship of the I-130 (and related I-864) he noted the facts, as blandly and non-emotively as humanly possible, which led him to believe that his marriage was invalid because of fraud -- in his case that his whatever-she-is-but-she-ain't-his-wife happens to have, despite sworn statements to the contrary, a very much alive husband in another country Who knows what USCIS will do with it - he has taken my advice to raise no further inquiry now that USCIS has confirmed that it has accepted his withdrawal of sponsorship. He's focused on what really matters - getting a legal declaration of nullity and going on with his life. So far, she's fighting tooth and nail, so who knows what will happen. /sigh
> Also is there a way for a sponsor to report an immigrant who has
> fraudulently married a USC to gain a green card? i.e. if the USC is
> the innocent victim of someone who is only interested in the marriage
> to gain a green card.
> Surely there is a system in place which can be used in such cases?
No system that I know of. But as part of his letter withdrawing his sponsorship of the I-130 (and related I-864) he noted the facts, as blandly and non-emotively as humanly possible, which led him to believe that his marriage was invalid because of fraud -- in his case that his whatever-she-is-but-she-ain't-his-wife happens to have, despite sworn statements to the contrary, a very much alive husband in another country
Who knows what USCIS will do with it - he has taken my advice to raise no further inquiry now that USCIS has confirmed that it has accepted his withdrawal of sponsorship. He's focused on what really matters - getting a legal declaration of nullity and going on with his life. So far, she's fighting tooth and nail, so who knows what will happen. /sighDAMN... it sucks so bad for people being taken in like that,,, looking for love and then being exploited by unscrupulous people looking for a green card..
Patrick
Aug 30th 2004, 7:35 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
J,
You address half my question. The other half of the question (the reverse, actually) is perhaps the more significant one - how damaging to the decision to accept or reject is the fact that the I-864 on record is very out of date? Especially if the petitioner declines to submit an updated I-864?
I think that Folinskyinla's response to Rete's comment makes the question moot, however.
Regards, JEff
You address half my question. The other half of the question (the reverse, actually) is perhaps the more significant one - how damaging to the decision to accept or reject is the fact that the I-864 on record is very out of date? Especially if the petitioner declines to submit an updated I-864?
I think that Folinskyinla's response to Rete's comment makes the question moot, however.
Regards, JEff
Originally Posted by J Moreno
jeffreyhy <member184@british_expats.com> wrote:
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
Aug 30th 2004, 7:55 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Dekka's Angel wrote:
> ...for his not-sure-what-to-call-her "spouse" as of the date of his
> request.... in his case that his
> whatever-she-is-but-she-ain't-his-wife happens to have
How about "Can't Understand Normal Thinking" wife? ;-)
> ...for his not-sure-what-to-call-her "spouse" as of the date of his
> request.... in his case that his
> whatever-she-is-but-she-ain't-his-wife happens to have
How about "Can't Understand Normal Thinking" wife? ;-)
Aug 30th 2004, 8:46 pm
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Originally Posted by J Moreno
jeffreyhy <member184@british_expats.com> wrote:
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
> Divorced or not at the time that his wife's AOS interview comes up,
> he can refuse to participate and refuse to provide a new I-864 can he
> not?
A laymans answer: the I-864 would still be valid, so while they might
want a new one at the interview, if the adjustment is accepted, the old
one will work just as well.
--
J. Moreno
Keywords here are "if the adjustment is accepted."
Can an adjudicator demand an updated I-864, and if one is not provided, can the adjustment be denied?
If that is a 'yes', then couldn't the OP simply refuse to turn in an updated I-864. Or maybe even get 'temporarily' laid off from his/her job so that there is no income (assuming the employer has no problems with this).
Aug 31st 2004, 1:42 am
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Originally Posted by sunflwrgrl13
Keywords here are "if the adjustment is accepted."
Can an adjudicator demand an updated I-864, and if one is not provided, can the adjustment be denied?
If that is a 'yes', then couldn't the OP simply refuse to turn in an updated I-864. Or maybe even get 'temporarily' laid off from his/her job so that there is no income (assuming the employer has no problems with this).
Can an adjudicator demand an updated I-864, and if one is not provided, can the adjustment be denied?
If that is a 'yes', then couldn't the OP simply refuse to turn in an updated I-864. Or maybe even get 'temporarily' laid off from his/her job so that there is no income (assuming the employer has no problems with this).
As a new member i hope my comments do not offend anyone. After much research i believe i have the answer to this. If the sponsor does not take an updated I-864 to AOS interview it is highly unlikely they will approve anything. Think about this, if a sponsor doesnt want to take an employment letter, I-864, or anything else for that matter then there couldnt possibly be a way to get approval. The only exception would be that the Immigrant could file for divorce, have it finalized before the AOS interview and file the proper forms to immigrate anyway if the marriage was over 2 years old and prove it was a marriage of good faith. Correct me if i am wrong please. I have read about this before. The only other way would be if the immigrant could prove abuse and that would be diffiult to do without a good, expensive attorney.
Aug 31st 2004, 2:41 am
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Re: How to cancel Green Card sponsership ?
Jacob24 wrote:
> As a new member i hope my comments do not offend anyone. After much
> research i believe i have the answer to this. If the sponsor does not
> take an updated I-864 to AOS interview it is highly unlikely they will
> approve anything. Think about this, if a sponsor doesnt want to take
> an employment letter, I-864, or anything else for that matter then
> there couldnt possibly be a way to get approval.
But the I-864 was already submitted earlier. There is no hard
requirement to have an updated I-864 (at least I don't believe so). The
only reason for an updated I-864 is if there has been a long lag between
the initial filing and the AOS approval and the AOS officer may want to
make sure that the sponsorship is doable.
> The only exception would be that the Immigrant could file for divorce,
> have it finalized before the AOS interview and file the proper forms
> to immigrate anyway if the marriage was over 2 years old and prove it
> was a marriage of good faith.
I don't think that "marriage was over 2 years old" is a requirement either.
> Correct me if i am wrong please. I have read about this before. The
> only other way would be if the immigrant could prove abuse and that
> would be diffiult to do without a good, expensive attorney.
Hardly. Claiming abuse is easy here in America (how long have you been
here?) and when a woman accuses a man of abuse it is almost accepted as
fact in most situations. The requirements for an abuse waiver are not
that hard to muster up either. Stay in a women's shelter one night. Got
a bruise when you fell off your bike? Take a picture and label it "When
my husband hit me". It'll be taken as fact. Claim that he "emotionally"
abused you. Claim that he told you that if you leave the house he'll
kill you. After all it's only your word against his and I don't believe
when submitting for an abuse waiver that the husband is ever consulted
or asked for his side of the story. Just when it becomes time to enforce
the I-864 will the husband be asked for money.
> As a new member i hope my comments do not offend anyone. After much
> research i believe i have the answer to this. If the sponsor does not
> take an updated I-864 to AOS interview it is highly unlikely they will
> approve anything. Think about this, if a sponsor doesnt want to take
> an employment letter, I-864, or anything else for that matter then
> there couldnt possibly be a way to get approval.
But the I-864 was already submitted earlier. There is no hard
requirement to have an updated I-864 (at least I don't believe so). The
only reason for an updated I-864 is if there has been a long lag between
the initial filing and the AOS approval and the AOS officer may want to
make sure that the sponsorship is doable.
> The only exception would be that the Immigrant could file for divorce,
> have it finalized before the AOS interview and file the proper forms
> to immigrate anyway if the marriage was over 2 years old and prove it
> was a marriage of good faith.
I don't think that "marriage was over 2 years old" is a requirement either.
> Correct me if i am wrong please. I have read about this before. The
> only other way would be if the immigrant could prove abuse and that
> would be diffiult to do without a good, expensive attorney.
Hardly. Claiming abuse is easy here in America (how long have you been
here?) and when a woman accuses a man of abuse it is almost accepted as
fact in most situations. The requirements for an abuse waiver are not
that hard to muster up either. Stay in a women's shelter one night. Got
a bruise when you fell off your bike? Take a picture and label it "When
my husband hit me". It'll be taken as fact. Claim that he "emotionally"
abused you. Claim that he told you that if you leave the house he'll
kill you. After all it's only your word against his and I don't believe
when submitting for an abuse waiver that the husband is ever consulted
or asked for his side of the story. Just when it becomes time to enforce
the I-864 will the husband be asked for money.
