sherbert

No: It was "DannyJones" response to his own post...edited by Noorah101. Why is "DannyJones" telling himself to come back when his potential employer tells him which visa they'll get for him.

Noorah101

That is really odd. Not sure how that happened!

Rene

spouse of scouse

It happened in another sub-forum a couple of days ago Rene, the whole page was like it (Bob fixed it). Must be a site glitch.

Pulaski

That doesn't seem very likely!

Pulaski

A this stage you need to be very careful about what your prospectve employer tells you. Until you have a visa stamp in your passport you cannot, under any circumstances* enter the US to start work. The visa in your passport must come first, it doesn't matter that he has living accommodation, or a job waiting. And if you enter illegally, following improper advice from your prospective employer, it is you that will pay the price - you run the risk of being arrested and deported, and it is you that will be banned from returning for working illegally, and the ban will be very long, or could be permanent! At the very minimum you would be trapped in the US because any time you left you would be immediately flagged as an over-stayed and Anne from returning. ... And with no route to a Social Security Number you would have a number of additional issues, such as having to obtain a fraudulent SS card usig a nunber that belongs to someone else.

* For any pedants out there, there is an "in lieu of L-1" B-1/B-2 visa that is possible under some circumstances, but the OP in this case isn't eligible for an L-1 anyway.

Hotscot

'For any pedants out there...'

Thanks. Part time.

I suspect he wants/needs/requires/would suit, an M1.

Pulaski

However, "While studying, student in M-1 status is not allowed to work on-campus or off-campus." which as advised above, includes work in lieu of rent, living expenses, etc.

jkeller

Lufthansa has a flight school in Goodyear (Phoenix) that they send their future pilots to. I don't know how that works as to salary-tuition-room and board or visas......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufthansa_Flight_Training

Hotscot

Yes, I could be wrong but I think he just wants to complete his flight hours to get his license. A job sounded like a bonus/route and now he knows that's unlikely.
I've mentioned he'd need to be self sufficient and to research the various visas..

Octang Frye

Boiler nailed it. Most people in the US have no clue about the ins and outs of the immigration system, because they have interaction with it.
That's why I cringe when you get people saying about illegal aliens... that "they should just do it legally".
They don't understand that for most people, there is no pathway to do that.

I'm sure that the man OP was talking to meant well and said what he did in good faith.
He's just ignorant and didn't know better.

OP, don't shutter your dreams but realize this needs to be a long term goal.
There's heavy competition from a glut of military pilots. I know two guys who fly 737 and 747s for United.
They're both pretty senior (former military pilots) and make good money. (They bid for routes - weird, huh?)

Anyway, they paid their dues and moved up. A former neighbor of mine was also ex-military, and flew a twin turboprop commuter aircraft.
His salary? $23,000. Less than a buss driver.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. Just go into it with your eyes open.

civilservant

Not really. Every pilot has a different family situation and will prefer slightly differant rotations.

This is perfectly normal for a starting pilot role having just gained enough hours flight time. It's the equivalent to a foot in the door. Not many pilots at all get on in the majors without considerable experience on regional airlines (at least in the US, anyway).

Pulaski

And they need a certain number of "flight hours" to get even taken on by a regional and so if they're not ex-airforce, they do things like flying for parachute clubs for peanuts to get, IIRC, their first 1,500 hours usually expected to move up to the next level.

scrubbedexpat099

I know it is about $15k to get a PPL, now I do not know what it is to fly Commercial, will ask.

civilservant

From what I've seen it's close to $90k to get all the required multi-engine and air transport ratings. Even then, you don't have enough hours to fly for a regional airline as a Part 129 pilot. As Pulaski rightly says, new pilots have to increase their PIC flight hours by flying any way they can, including as an instructor pilot.

ddsrph