H4 & In-state tuition

Old Jan 23rd 2001, 6:19 pm
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zhan
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hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently I'm
living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full time
grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years and pay all the state tax. I down
know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have no right to get in-state tuition.
Can anybody point out any law documents that I can use to argue with them?

Thank you so much!

Zhan
 
Old Jan 24th 2001, 3:13 am
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Joachim Feise
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zhan wrote:
>
> hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently I'm
> living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full
> time grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years and pay all the state tax.
> I down know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have no right to get in-state
> tuition. Can anybody point out any law documents that I can use to argue with them?

Usually, the governing body of the university makes these rules themselves. According to
the NMSU website (http://www.nmsu.edu/~gradcolg/Catalog/tuition_fees.html) <<< Resident or
nonresident status will be determined for all New Mexico institutions by the Council of
Higher Education, State of New Mexico, and administered by the registrars of each
institution.
>>>

You can ask the registrar's office for a copy of the regulations.

-Joe
 
Old Jan 24th 2001, 4:28 am
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Noor Merchant
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Most universities treat all non green-card holders as aliens no matter what visa they are
on. you'd be really lucky if your wife is allowed to pay in-state tuition.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Joachim Feise wrote:

> zhan wrote:
> >
> > hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently I'm
> > living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full
> > time grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years and pay all the state
> > tax. I down know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have no right to get
> > in-state tuition. Can anybody point out any law documents that I can use to argue
> > with them?
>
> Usually, the governing body of the university makes these rules themselves. According to
> the NMSU website (http://www.nmsu.edu/~gradcolg/Catalog/tuition_fees.html) <<< Resident
> or nonresident status will be determined for all New Mexico institutions by the Council
> of Higher Education, State of New Mexico, and administered by the registrars of each
> institution.
> >>>
>
> You can ask the registrar's office for a copy of the regulations.
>
> -Joe
 
Old Jan 24th 2001, 5:31 pm
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Ingo
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You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a cut-and-dried
case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state. If your wife is an
H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.

Ingo

>hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently I'm
>living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full time
>grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years and pay all the state tax. I down
>know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have no right to get in-state
>tuition. Can anybody point out any law documents that I can use to argue with them?
>
>Thank you so much!
>
>Zhan
>
>

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a
professional immigration attorney.

For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.

For many questions, you may find answers at http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html
(Department of State)

or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).

For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html

For DOL Faxback status information: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/

For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html

For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/

For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm

For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html

For non-official information, check:

(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not know
all site operators.)

http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.getusavisa.com
http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/ http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B)
http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee) http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage
and fiancee) http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes http://www.formshome.com
http://www.workpermit.com

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Old Jan 25th 2001, 2:15 am
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zhan
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Ya. F-1 as it is. So it seems like there is not anything I can do to it.

Thank you so much!

zhan

> You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a cut-and-dried
> case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state. If your wife is an
> H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.
>
> Ingo
>

>
> >hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently
I'm
> >living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full
> >time grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years
and
> >pay all the state tax. I down know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have
> >no right to get in-state tuition. Can anybody point out any
law
> >documents that I can use to argue with them?
> >
> >Thank you so much!
> >
> >Zhan
> >
> >
>
> I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult with
> a professional immigration attorney.
>
> For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
>
> For many questions, you may find answers at http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html
> (Department of State)
>
> or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
>
> For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
> http://travel.state.gov/links.html
>
> For DOL Faxback status information: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
>
> For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
> http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
>
> For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
>
> For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
>
>
> For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
> http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
>
>
> For non-official information, check:
>
> (When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
> know all site operators.)
>
> http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
> http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.getusavisa.com
> http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/ http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B)
> http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee) http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage
> and fiancee) http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes http://www.formshome.com
> http://www.workpermit.com
>
> This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
> the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
> and typically don't even know them.
>
> (if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site listed
> here, please e-mail me).
 
Old Jan 28th 2001, 10:18 am
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Ingo
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There is: you can change her status to H-4. She won't be allowed to work (F-1s can work
with restrictions), but she *may* more than make up for that in tuition savings.

Ingo

>Ya. F-1 as it is. So it seems like there is not anything I can do to it.
>
>Thank you so much!
>
>zhan
>

>> You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a
>> cut-and-dried case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state. If
>> your wife is an H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.
>>
>> Ingo
>>

>>
>> >hi, there I have a question about the in-state tuition in US colleages. Currently
>I'm
>> >living in New Mexico and I'm on H-1 status. My wife came here 03/2000 and she's full
>> >time grad-student now. I have lived NM for more than 4 years
>and
>> >pay all the state tax. I down know why the university (NMSU) still insist that we have
>> >no right to get in-state tuition. Can anybody point out any
>law
>> >documents that I can use to argue with them?
>> >
>> >Thank you so much!
>> >
>> >Zhan
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
>> with a professional immigration attorney.
>>
>> For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
>>
>> For many questions, you may find answers at http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html
>> (Department of State)
>>
>> or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
>>
>> For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
>> http://travel.state.gov/links.html
>>
>> For DOL Faxback status information: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
>>
>> For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
>> http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
>>
>> For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
>>
>> For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
>>
>>
>> For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
>> http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
>>
>>
>> For non-official information, check:
>>
>> (When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
>> know all site operators.)
>>
>> http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
>> http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.getusavisa.com
>> http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/ http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B)
>> http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee) http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage
>> and fiancee) http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes http://www.formshome.com
>> http://www.workpermit.com
>>
>> This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
>> the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
>> and typically don't even know them.
>>
>> (if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site listed
>> here, please e-mail me).
>
>

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a
professional immigration attorney.

For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.

For many questions, you may find answers at http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html
(Department of State)

or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).

For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html

For DOL Faxback status information: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/

For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html

For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/

For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm

For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html

For non-official information, check:

(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not know
all site operators.)

http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.getusavisa.com
http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/ http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B)
http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee) http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage
and fiancee) http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes http://www.formshome.com
http://www.workpermit.com

This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of the
Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them, and
typically don't even know them.

(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site listed
here, please e-mail me).
 
Old Jan 28th 2001, 8:59 pm
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Marjeta Cedilnik
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Even if his wife is in F1, it depends on the university. My brother was in F1 and I was on
H1 and supporting him. We checked with school if he could get in-state tuition, and the
school said that he'd get in-state tuition if his parent or wife were on H1. As his
sister, I wasn't close enough, so the school said that if I was his legal guardian, they'd
let my brother pay in-state tuition.

Meanwhile, I was able to pay in-state tuition for the courses I was taking part-time while
in H1 status.

Marjeta

zhan wrote:
>
> Ya. F-1 as it is. So it seems like there is not anything I can do to it.
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> zhan
>

> > You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a
> > cut-and-dried case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state. If
> > your wife is an H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.

--
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couldn't be solved with a decent miracle. Nobena situacija ni tako zavo"zena, da je ne bi
mogel re"siti en po"sten "cude"z.
 
Old Jan 30th 2001, 1:09 pm
  #8  
Benjamin A. Tjoa
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How about a student that is F-1 who is supported completely by her brother who is a green
card holder? I have paid for my sister's out of state tuition at a local community college
for 2 years now. She is about to enroll in a local state university. Do you think it's
worth asking the school whether she could now qualify for a resident tuition?

Thanks.

> Even if his wife is in F1, it depends on the university. My brother was in F1 and I was
> on H1 and supporting him. We checked with school if he could get in-state tuition, and
> the school said that he'd get in-state tuition if his parent or wife were on H1. As his
> sister, I wasn't close enough, so the school said that if I was his legal guardian,
> they'd let my brother pay in-state tuition.
>
> Meanwhile, I was able to pay in-state tuition for the courses I was taking part-time
> while in H1 status.
>
> Marjeta
>
> zhan wrote:
> >
> > Ya. F-1 as it is. So it seems like there is not anything I can do to it.
> >
> > Thank you so much!
> >
> > zhan
> >

> > > You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a
> > > cut-and-dried case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state.
> > > If your wife is an H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.
>
>
> --
> Marjeta Cedilnik [email protected] http://marjeta.x0.org No situation is so bad that it
> couldn't be solved with a decent miracle. Nobena situacija ni tako zavo"zena, da je ne
> bi mogel re"siti en po"sten "cude"z.
 
Old Jan 30th 2001, 6:46 pm
  #9  
Ingo
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Doesn't hurt to ask. They can't say more than "NO" - and if you are lucky, they might
say "YES".

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:09:59 -0800, "Benjamin A. Tjoa"

>How about a student that is F-1 who is supported completely by her brother who is a green
>card holder? I have paid for my sister's out of state tuition at a local community
>college for 2 years now. She is about to enroll in a local state university. Do you think
>it's worth asking the school whether she could now qualify for a resident tuition?
>
>Thanks.
>

>> Even if his wife is in F1, it depends on the university. My brother was in F1 and I was
>> on H1 and supporting him. We checked with school if he could get in-state tuition, and
>> the school said that he'd get in-state tuition if his parent or wife were on H1. As his
>> sister, I wasn't close enough, so the school said that if I was his legal guardian,
>> they'd let my brother pay in-state tuition.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I was able to pay in-state tuition for the courses I was taking part-time
>> while in H1 status.
>>
>> Marjeta
>>
>> zhan wrote:
>> >
>> > Ya. F-1 as it is. So it seems like there is not anything I can do to it.
>> >
>> > Thank you so much!
>> >
>> > zhan
>> >

>> > > You don't say what visa your wife is using. If she is using an F-1, it's a
>> > > cut-and-dried case of out-of-state tuition; pretty much all F-1s pay out-of-state.
>> > > If your wife is an H-4, it's up to the individual university to make that decision.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marjeta Cedilnik [email protected] http://marjeta.x0.org No situation is so bad that it
>> couldn't be solved with a decent miracle. Nobena situacija ni tako zavo"zena, da je ne
>> bi mogel re"siti en po"sten "cude"z.
>
>

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a
professional immigration attorney.

For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.

For many questions, you may find answers at http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html
(Department of State)

or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).

For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html

For DOL Faxback status information: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/

For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html

For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/

For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm

For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html

For non-official information, check:

(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not know
all site operators.)

http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.getusavisa.com
http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/ http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B)
http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee) http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage
and fiancee) http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes http://www.formshome.com
http://www.workpermit.com

This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of the
Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them, and
typically don't even know them.

(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site listed
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Old Feb 3rd 2001, 1:08 pm
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It's always worth asking. Sometimes schools make mistakes and let you pay in-state, even
though you don't qualify according to their policy. It happened to a friend of mine. She
was an ordinary F1 student, married to another F1 student. And the school had a strict
policy that F1 students pay out-of-state.

The same couple also happened to find a car insurance that was half of what anybody
else in our group of friends was paying at that time (all living and working in the
same city)...

Marjeta

"Benjamin A. Tjoa" wrote:
>
> How about a student that is F-1 who is supported completely by her brother who is a
> green card holder? I have paid for my sister's out of state tuition at a local community
> college for 2 years now. She is about to enroll in a local state university. Do you
> think it's worth asking the school whether she could now qualify for a resident tuition?
>
> Thanks.
>

> > Even if his wife is in F1, it depends on the university. My brother was in F1 and I
> > was on H1 and supporting him. We checked with school if he could get in-state tuition,
> > and the school said that he'd get in-state tuition if his parent or wife were on H1.
> > As his sister, I wasn't close enough, so the school said that if I was his legal
> > guardian, they'd let my brother pay in-state tuition.
> >
> > Meanwhile, I was able to pay in-state tuition for the courses I was taking part-time
> > while in H1 status.

--
Marjeta Cedilnik [email protected] No situation is so bad that it couldn't be solved with
a decent miracle. Nobena situacija ni tako zavo"zena, da je ne bi mogel re"siti en
po"sten "cude"z.
 

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