h1b/h4 question
Mar 29th 2003, 2:41 am
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h1b/h4 question
When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with 12/2003
expiration date. Since my and my wife's
passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
have extended both passports here in the US.
What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
passports?
thanks,
ali.
expiration date. Since my and my wife's
passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
have extended both passports here in the US.
What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
passports?
thanks,
ali.
Mar 29th 2003, 10:15 am
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Re: h1b/h4 question
ali ozgun wrote:
>
> When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with 12/2003
> expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
> have extended both passports here in the US.
> What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
> can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> passports?
> thanks,
> ali.
You don't understand the difference between a visa and status.
The stamp you get when you arrive is NOT a visa.
You will have to have your employer extend your H1B status and your wife
extend the H4 before the expiry of the I-94s, using form I-129 and
I-539, or you could leave and re-enter the US to extend your status up
to the date of expiry of your permitted employment as detailed on the
I-797 approval notice (usually 3 years from the date of approval).
>
> When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with 12/2003
> expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
> have extended both passports here in the US.
> What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
> can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> passports?
> thanks,
> ali.
You don't understand the difference between a visa and status.
The stamp you get when you arrive is NOT a visa.
You will have to have your employer extend your H1B status and your wife
extend the H4 before the expiry of the I-94s, using form I-129 and
I-539, or you could leave and re-enter the US to extend your status up
to the date of expiry of your permitted employment as detailed on the
I-797 approval notice (usually 3 years from the date of approval).
Mar 29th 2003, 1:13 pm
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Re: h1b/h4 question
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:41:49 +0000, ali ozgun wrote:
> When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with 12/2003
> expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
> have extended both passports here in the US.
> What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
> can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> passports?
It is not enough to extend the passport, but going to Mexico is an easy
way to achieve what you need. When leaving, be sure to surrender your I-94
to US immigration when you leave (this is not necessarily easy, since most
people are expected to keep the I-94s). There is a fee for the new I-94,
so bring some cash (I think it is $7 per person).
Another option that may or may not work is to visit your local BCIS office
and ask for deferred inspection.
> When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with 12/2003
> expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now I
> have extended both passports here in the US.
> What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home country),
> can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> passports?
It is not enough to extend the passport, but going to Mexico is an easy
way to achieve what you need. When leaving, be sure to surrender your I-94
to US immigration when you leave (this is not necessarily easy, since most
people are expected to keep the I-94s). There is a fee for the new I-94,
so bring some cash (I think it is $7 per person).
Another option that may or may not work is to visit your local BCIS office
and ask for deferred inspection.
Mar 29th 2003, 4:44 pm
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Re: h1b/h4 question
Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand the
difference between a visa and a
status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of the
thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
"S B" wrote in message
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> ali ozgun wrote:
> >
> > When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with
12/2003
> > expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> > passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now
I
> > have extended both passports here in the US.
> > What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home
country),
> > can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> > or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> > passports?
> > thanks,
> > ali.
> You don't understand the difference between a visa and status.
> The stamp you get when you arrive is NOT a visa.
> You will have to have your employer extend your H1B status and your wife
> extend the H4 before the expiry of the I-94s, using form I-129 and
> I-539, or you could leave and re-enter the US to extend your status up
> to the date of expiry of your permitted employment as detailed on the
> I-797 approval notice (usually 3 years from the date of approval).
difference between a visa and a
status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of the
thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
"S B" wrote in message
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> ali ozgun wrote:
> >
> > When re-entering to the US, I had an H1 stamp on my passport with
12/2003
> > expiration date. Since my and my wife's
> > passports was expiring on 06/2003, they put that date on our I-94's. Now
I
> > have extended both passports here in the US.
> > What should I do? We won't be able to go back to Turkey (my home
country),
> > can we go to Mexico and come back and get new I-94's
> > or extend/revalidate our visas? Or is it enough just to extend the
> > passports?
> > thanks,
> > ali.
> You don't understand the difference between a visa and status.
> The stamp you get when you arrive is NOT a visa.
> You will have to have your employer extend your H1B status and your wife
> extend the H4 before the expiry of the I-94s, using form I-129 and
> I-539, or you could leave and re-enter the US to extend your status up
> to the date of expiry of your permitted employment as detailed on the
> I-797 approval notice (usually 3 years from the date of approval).
Mar 30th 2003, 3:38 am
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Re: h1b/h4 question
ali ozgun wrote:
>
> Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand the
> difference between a visa and a
> status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of the
> thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
admission stamp. It is NOT a visa. A passport visa is stamped in a
passport at a consulate or embassy abroad. The date on the VISA is
simply the last date you can use it to enter the US in that status.
What is important is the date you stamped on the admission stamp and the
I-94 which determines the date you must either leave or arrange
extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa is not necessary as
long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for less than 30 days
to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada, Mexico, and
certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places outside
those countries you will need a new passport visa.
>
> Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand the
> difference between a visa and a
> status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of the
> thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
admission stamp. It is NOT a visa. A passport visa is stamped in a
passport at a consulate or embassy abroad. The date on the VISA is
simply the last date you can use it to enter the US in that status.
What is important is the date you stamped on the admission stamp and the
I-94 which determines the date you must either leave or arrange
extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa is not necessary as
long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for less than 30 days
to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada, Mexico, and
certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places outside
those countries you will need a new passport visa.
Mar 30th 2003, 6:55 am
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Re: h1b/h4 question
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:38:36 +0000, S B wrote:
> ali ozgun wrote:
>>
>> Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand
>> the difference between a visa and a
>> status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name
>> of the thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
>
> Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
> admission stamp. It is NOT a visa.
I think Ali understands the distinction. He explicitly said that his I-94
(which he got at the airport) expired 6/2003, and that the visa stamp he
had when he re-entered expires 12/2003. The stamp he got at the airport
into his passport probably doesn't even contain the expiration date.
In more detail:
When you arrive in the US, you fill out a longish white form with two
perforation. This form is called I-94. The BCBP inspector will look at the
form, tear it into the three separate pieces and put the same stamp on
each of the pieces and also into your passport. This stamp identifies the
airport, the date you arrived, as well as an identifying number of this
particular stamp. It actually does NOT usually contain the expiration date
at all.
Then the inspector hand-writes the expiration date onto the pieces of the
I-94, but he usually does not write the expiration date into your passport
itself. In some cases, he might hand-write some other annotations on the
I-94, and sometimes also into the passport (one common annotation that is
made into the passport rather than on the I-94 is VIOPP, meaning Visa In
Other PassPort, if you travel with an expired passport that has your
visa). Of course, occasionally officers screw up or just are bored and
will write the expiration date into the passport itself as well as on the
I-94.
> A passport visa is stamped in a passport at a consulate or embassy
> abroad.
Since accuracy may be important here, the passport visa actually isn't
stamped into a passport. Rather, it is a sticker that is physically
attached to a page of the passport.
Until about ten or fifteen years ago, the visa really was a stamp, and
people still today routinely refer to it as a "visa stamp". I am fairly
sure that this is what Ali meant.
> The date on the VISA is simply the last date you can use it to
> enter the US in that status. What is important is the date you stamped
> on the admission stamp and the I-94 which determines the date you must
> either leave or arrange extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa
> is not necessary as long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for
> less than 30 days to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada,
> Mexico, and certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places
> outside those countries you will need a new passport visa.
In his case, of course, extending the status is what Ali needs to do
because the I-94 is what expires, and his visa is what is valid longer.
> ali ozgun wrote:
>>
>> Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand
>> the difference between a visa and a
>> status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name
>> of the thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
>
> Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
> admission stamp. It is NOT a visa.
I think Ali understands the distinction. He explicitly said that his I-94
(which he got at the airport) expired 6/2003, and that the visa stamp he
had when he re-entered expires 12/2003. The stamp he got at the airport
into his passport probably doesn't even contain the expiration date.
In more detail:
When you arrive in the US, you fill out a longish white form with two
perforation. This form is called I-94. The BCBP inspector will look at the
form, tear it into the three separate pieces and put the same stamp on
each of the pieces and also into your passport. This stamp identifies the
airport, the date you arrived, as well as an identifying number of this
particular stamp. It actually does NOT usually contain the expiration date
at all.
Then the inspector hand-writes the expiration date onto the pieces of the
I-94, but he usually does not write the expiration date into your passport
itself. In some cases, he might hand-write some other annotations on the
I-94, and sometimes also into the passport (one common annotation that is
made into the passport rather than on the I-94 is VIOPP, meaning Visa In
Other PassPort, if you travel with an expired passport that has your
visa). Of course, occasionally officers screw up or just are bored and
will write the expiration date into the passport itself as well as on the
I-94.
> A passport visa is stamped in a passport at a consulate or embassy
> abroad.
Since accuracy may be important here, the passport visa actually isn't
stamped into a passport. Rather, it is a sticker that is physically
attached to a page of the passport.
Until about ten or fifteen years ago, the visa really was a stamp, and
people still today routinely refer to it as a "visa stamp". I am fairly
sure that this is what Ali meant.
> The date on the VISA is simply the last date you can use it to
> enter the US in that status. What is important is the date you stamped
> on the admission stamp and the I-94 which determines the date you must
> either leave or arrange extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa
> is not necessary as long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for
> less than 30 days to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada,
> Mexico, and certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places
> outside those countries you will need a new passport visa.
In his case, of course, extending the status is what Ali needs to do
because the I-94 is what expires, and his visa is what is valid longer.
Mar 31st 2003, 5:35 pm
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Re: h1b/h4 question
hey S B what's your problem?
why are you so aggressive and rude? Yo'u're just answering a question.
nobody forces you to do that.
ali.
"S B" wrote in message
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> ali ozgun wrote:
> >
> > Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand
the
> > difference between a visa and a
> > status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of
the
> > thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
> Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
> admission stamp. It is NOT a visa. A passport visa is stamped in a
> passport at a consulate or embassy abroad. The date on the VISA is
> simply the last date you can use it to enter the US in that status.
> What is important is the date you stamped on the admission stamp and the
> I-94 which determines the date you must either leave or arrange
> extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa is not necessary as
> long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for less than 30 days
> to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada, Mexico, and
> certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places outside
> those countries you will need a new passport visa.
why are you so aggressive and rude? Yo'u're just answering a question.
nobody forces you to do that.
ali.
"S B" wrote in message
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> ali ozgun wrote:
> >
> > Well thanks taking the time to answer my question, but I do understand
the
> > difference between a visa and a
> > status, and they don't stamp anything when you arrive, the legal name of
the
> > thing that is stamped on your passport is called VISA.
> Bullshit. The thing stamped in your passport on entry to the US is an
> admission stamp. It is NOT a visa. A passport visa is stamped in a
> passport at a consulate or embassy abroad. The date on the VISA is
> simply the last date you can use it to enter the US in that status.
> What is important is the date you stamped on the admission stamp and the
> I-94 which determines the date you must either leave or arrange
> extension of your STATUS by. Extending the visa is not necessary as
> long as you remain inside the US, or only depart for less than 30 days
> to the countries contiguous with the US (e.g. Canada, Mexico, and
> certain Carribean islands.) If you leave the US for places outside
> those countries you will need a new passport visa.
Apr 1st 2003, 12:13 am
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Re: h1b/h4 question
ali ozgun wrote:
>
> hey S B what's your problem?
> why are you so aggressive and rude? Yo'u're just answering a question.
> nobody forces you to do that.
> ali.
And I'm supposed to put up with your snotty nosed response. "I do know
the difference ..." when it sure looks like you don't!
>
> hey S B what's your problem?
> why are you so aggressive and rude? Yo'u're just answering a question.
> nobody forces you to do that.
> ali.
And I'm supposed to put up with your snotty nosed response. "I do know
the difference ..." when it sure looks like you don't!
