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Green Card Lottery: You Must File Online!

Old Aug 20th 2003, 6:25 pm
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Carl Shusterman
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In a new twist, the State Department seems to have updated the poem on the
base of the Statue of Liberty: Instead, of "Give us your tired, your poor."
, the new mantra seems to be "Give us your wired."



In interim regulations published on August 18, 2003, the State Department
caught everyone off-guard by requiring that the all applications, complete
with digital photos, be submitted online on a special governmental web site.



Obviously, e-filing is the wave of the future. However, not accepting paper
filing seems a trifle elitist to us. Imagine if the BCIS suddenly published
regulations requiring that all immigration petitions and applications be
filed online. "Let them eat code!"



Of course, the State Department's press release cited "security" and
"efficiency" in attempting to justify the interim regulations, it is
difficult for us to see how accepting applications online is more secure
than accepting them by mail. What's to stop a person from establishing 100
different HotMail accounts and making multiple online applications?



And isn't the government helping to grow the ever-growing industry of
immigration consultants (aka "rip-off artists") who charge fees to gullible
persons eager to "increase their chances" of winning the lottery? Have
Laptop and Scanner, Will Travel!



Our comments seem to resonate. We were quoted in several dozen newspapers
including USA Today, the Washington Post, Newsday and internationally.



Let the State Department know what you think by sending your comments
regarding the interim regulations to them at [email protected] on or before
October 17, 2003.



This year's green card lottery is set to begin on November 1 and end on
December 31, 2003. Generally, persons born in CANADA, CHINA
(mainland-born), COLOMBIA, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, EL SALVADOR, HAITI, INDIA,
JAMAICA, MEXICO, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, RUSSIA, SOUTH KOREA, UNITED KINGDOM
(except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories, and VIETNAM are
need not apply. However, persons born in Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR and
Taiwan are eligible.



We link to the official instructions, the interim regulations, the State
Department press release, the USA Today article and more from our "Lottery"
page at



http://shusterman.com/toc-lottery.html



Once the lottery begins, we will link to the State Department Lottery Web
Site and to the Official DV-2005 Lottery Application form. We offer this as
a free service to the public.



Do you need an attorney to apply for the lottery? We don't think so. Do
you need an attorney if your application is selected? It is a good idea
since of the 100,000+ "winners" notified by the State Department, only
50,000 can actually become permanent residents under the law. We are
pleased to assist any of the "winners" in obtaining permanent residence.

*********************



Carl Shusterman served as a Trial Attorney for the U.S. Immigration Service
(1976-82) before entering private practice. He heads a four-attorney firm
specializing exclusively in immigration law. He maintains an extensive
website entitled "Immigration: A Practical Guide to Immigrating to the U.S."
containing over 1,000 articles on all phases of immigration law. He is the
author of SHUSTERMAN'S IMMIGRATION UPDATE, a free, monthly e-mail newsletter
on immigration laws and procedures. You can subscribe online at
http://shusterman.com/subscribe.html
 
Old Aug 20th 2003, 7:46 pm
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Boaz Ben-Zvi
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"Carl Shusterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In a new twist, the State Department seems to have updated the poem on the
    > base of the Statue of Liberty: Instead, of "Give us your tired, your
poor."
    > , the new mantra seems to be "Give us your wired."

This country has plenty of the poor and tired. One goal of the diversity
visa
program is bring more educated people into the country (see the education
requirement). So maybe the bar has been raised a little now, so what ?

    > Of course, the State Department's press release cited "security" ....
    > difficult for us to see how accepting applications online is more secure
    > than accepting them by mail. What's to stop a person from establishing
100
    > different HotMail accounts and making multiple online applications?

You're right on that one! Other possible misschiefs: Generating tons of
bogus entries, or person A hates person B, so person A submits another
application on B's behalf, thus disqualifying person B.

The DOS should have asked instead for scanning the person's passport
or national ID card.

What they meant by "security" is: The Department of Homeland Security
would get a copy of this huge database of people, run some data mining
over this database, and maybe find some useful data, like relatives of
some wanted people, or maybe even the villains themselves.
 
Old Aug 20th 2003, 10:01 pm
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Default Re: Green Card Lottery: You Must File Online!

Does anyone know whether there's anything to stop someone from applying for the DV-2005 lottery if they have been one of the 100,000 selected for the DV-2004 lottery? Obviously we won't know whether we get as far as an interview or not until it's too late to go for the DV-2005... Just curious.

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Old Aug 21st 2003, 2:03 am
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    > Obviously, e-filing is the wave of the future. However, not accepting paper
    > filing seems a trifle elitist to us. Imagine if the BCIS suddenly published
    > regulations requiring that all immigration petitions and applications be
    > filed online. "Let them eat code!"

We really don't need more poor immigrants coming to the U.S. to live
illegally with their U.S. relatives on welfare. These people plan to
move and start a new life in the U.S., but no one they know can even
obtain brief access to a private or public computer terminal? How are
they going to travel? How are they going to live? How likely are
they going to be admissible to the U.S.?

    > Of course, the State Department's press release cited "security" and
    > "efficiency" in attempting to justify the interim regulations, it is
    > difficult for us to see how accepting applications online is more secure
    > than accepting them by mail. What's to stop a person from establishing 100
    > different HotMail accounts and making multiple online applications?

Doing it electronically is much better, and should have been done a
long time ago (DOS held out as long as they could before the deadline
of the new law requiring electronic filing to be available by October
2003). Even with multiple email accounts, are you going to put in
multiple names, dates of birth, places of birth, etc.? If you do, are
you going to get a visa in your passport with that false identity on
your entry? DV winning entries are not transferrable. I am only
surprised that the signature requirement has been entirely dropped
rather than requested to appear below the imaged photograph.

    > And isn't the government helping to grow the ever-growing industry of
    > immigration consultants (aka "rip-off artists") who charge fees to gullible
    > persons eager to "increase their chances" of winning the lottery? Have
    > Laptop and Scanner, Will Travel!

Actually, I think a lot of the DV lottery agencies will go out of
business now, since the design and proper mailing of an entry and
timely delivery is no longer an issue. Automated notification of
rejection is also possible now. Really, they are just promoting the
office services industry just a tiny bit, but that's become an
integral part of the American way of life now.

    > Let the State Department know what you think by sending your comments
    > regarding the interim regulations to them at [email protected] on or before
    > October 17, 2003.

I, for one, will be sending them a comment of support and appreciation
on the new process.

It would be nice if they'd allow you to check the status of your entry
online, so you could find out if you won or lost, but that may become
possible in the next few years now.

I suspect the total number of entries received this year will be less
than half of last years millions, not because of difficulties people
will have getting access to a computer (although there will be some
arguing that), but rather because people will no longer be sending in
multiple entries to unfairly increase their odds of winning (DOS knows
very well that previously they never could detect duplicate entries
very well, unless the person won twice).


CP
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 1:20 pm
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Brian D
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Can't see any problem with that. If you're lucky enough to win again
in '05 you can either send back the forms for '05 or stick with your
'04 winning entry - by that stage you should have a much better idea
whether/when your 04 number will become current.



Pepper <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Does anyone know whether there's anything to stop someone from applying
    > for the DV-2005 lottery if they have been one of the 100,000 selected
    > for the DV-2004 lottery? Obviously we won't know whether we get as far
    > as an interview or not until it's too late to go for the DV-2005...
    > Just curious.
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks
 

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