Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
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Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
I've had a green card for a couple of years and just got the conditions removed (yay). Now I'm waiting for the new card to arrive in the mail.
I'm wondering, since replacement costs 370USD, do I have to carry this with me at all times, as I have done up till now, or can I just keep my US drivers license on me as ID. I'd like to just put the new green card in my safe with my passport etc. so I don't run the risk of losing it if my wallet were stolen.
As a LPR am I obliged to carry my GC at all times and surrender it to police if they ask me to or is this not necessary?
Thanks
Brit in OR, curious about my rights and responsibilities
I'm wondering, since replacement costs 370USD, do I have to carry this with me at all times, as I have done up till now, or can I just keep my US drivers license on me as ID. I'd like to just put the new green card in my safe with my passport etc. so I don't run the risk of losing it if my wallet were stolen.
As a LPR am I obliged to carry my GC at all times and surrender it to police if they ask me to or is this not necessary?
Thanks
Brit in OR, curious about my rights and responsibilities
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
I've had a green card for a couple of years and just got the conditions removed (yay). Now I'm waiting for the new card to arrive in the mail.
I'm wondering, since replacement costs 370USD, do I have to carry this with me at all times, as I have done up till now, or can I just keep my US drivers license on me as ID. I'd like to just put the new green card in my safe with my passport etc. so I don't run the risk of losing it if my wallet were stolen.
As a LPR am I obliged to carry my GC at all times and surrender it to police if they ask me to or is this not necessary?
Thanks
Brit in OR, curious about my rights and responsibilities
I'm wondering, since replacement costs 370USD, do I have to carry this with me at all times, as I have done up till now, or can I just keep my US drivers license on me as ID. I'd like to just put the new green card in my safe with my passport etc. so I don't run the risk of losing it if my wallet were stolen.
As a LPR am I obliged to carry my GC at all times and surrender it to police if they ask me to or is this not necessary?
Thanks
Brit in OR, curious about my rights and responsibilities
I don't know what the correct answer is though.
I would have thought that a police officer should fairly quickly be able to check your immigrant status electronically????
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
Guide (if you've not seen it) is here
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/M-618.pdf
FWIW I keep mine with me in my wallet and the original forms in a safe should I ever need to replace it
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and surrender it to police if they ask me to or is this not necessary?
Rene
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
An LPR friend of mine was crossing from Arizona to California and did not have his green card with him. The border patrol gave him quite a hard time, detained him there off to the side for about an hour, threatened to fine him for not carrying it (they ended up not, but gave him a warning to carry it).
I should add that he's Iranian, though, so that might be why he got more of a hassle. Perhaps a UKC would not get the same treatment, but you never know.
Rene
I should add that he's Iranian, though, so that might be why he got more of a hassle. Perhaps a UKC would not get the same treatment, but you never know.
Rene
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
Thanks, I think I will make a colour photo copy and carry that in my wallet, and store the original in my safe. I'd hate to have to replace it if my purse was stolen! Perhaps if I plan on crossing state lines a whole bunch I'd get the original out.
Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
Crossing state lines isn't an issue per se. Doing anything at all within 100 miles of the land border, however, can be - but I've never seen CBP anywhere in the state of Oregon. If you do encounter them, I would not necessarily expect them to accept a photocopy of your ID, but who knows.
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
An LPR friend of mine was crossing from Arizona to California and did not have his green card with him. The border patrol gave him quite a hard time, detained him there off to the side for about an hour, threatened to fine him for not carrying it (they ended up not, but gave him a warning to carry it).
I should add that he's Iranian, though, so that might be why he got more of a hassle. Perhaps a UKC would not get the same treatment, but you never know.
Rene
I should add that he's Iranian, though, so that might be why he got more of a hassle. Perhaps a UKC would not get the same treatment, but you never know.
Rene
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
If you aren't a US citizen, you are meant to always carry proof of your immigration status. It's daft as cops aren't allowed to ask you, but if you live in a border type area where random spot checks happen, then you probably should carry it on you.
Other wise, a photo copy is certainly a good idea. The fine if you get caught without one is a lot smaller than a replacement card and that's if you're really unlucky and don't get a slap on the wrist telling off. 30 days in the clink is the maximum I think? But that's even less likely.
All risk tolerance.
Other wise, a photo copy is certainly a good idea. The fine if you get caught without one is a lot smaller than a replacement card and that's if you're really unlucky and don't get a slap on the wrist telling off. 30 days in the clink is the maximum I think? But that's even less likely.
All risk tolerance.
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
I did not realize the cost was so much to replace. Given that it is the same - ish for a renewal, do you get a new 10 years, in the event it gets lost/ stolen? Or literally a replacement with the same expiration date?
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
Well that sucks, it might be cheaper to just apply for citizenship in 3 years time and pay for that rather than renewing the GC every 10 years!
That's it - there's no way I'm going to carry the original card around with me everywhere, the chance of me losing it are too great. I'm just going to stash it in a safe place and take my chances.
It really makes me cross how expensive this whole process has been, every form you submit costs between 350 and 1000 USD! It's no wonder there are so many undocumented immigrants.
That's it - there's no way I'm going to carry the original card around with me everywhere, the chance of me losing it are too great. I'm just going to stash it in a safe place and take my chances.
It really makes me cross how expensive this whole process has been, every form you submit costs between 350 and 1000 USD! It's no wonder there are so many undocumented immigrants.
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
So hypothetically, I am a LPR with a 10 year green card. My Wallet got stolen and my GC was in it. My GC was going to expire next year. Should I apply for a replacement GC now, and then apply for renewal next year.
My status is not changed.
What law enforcement might I need to show my GC to?
My status is not changed.
What law enforcement might I need to show my GC to?
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Re: Green Card - do I have to carry it at all times?
So hypothetically, I am a LPR with a 10 year green card. My Wallet got stolen and my GC was in it. My GC was going to expire next year. Should I apply for a replacement GC now, and then apply for renewal next year.
My status is not changed.
What law enforcement might I need to show my GC to?
My status is not changed.
What law enforcement might I need to show my GC to?
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...00082ca60aRCRD
It also says (my bolding):
What The Law Says
Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states, "Every alien in the United States . . . shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations . . ." It also says, "Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him . . .. Any alien who fails to comply with [these provisions] shall be guilty of a misdemeanor..." The specific requirements and procedures for applying to renew an expiring green card are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations [CFR] at 8 CFR section 264.5.
Rene
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