Gov't snoop e-mail
Mar 28th 2005, 5:48 pm
#61
Maño-Americano
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: In the heart of the Ozarks
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Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
Got that right
Viva España
Mar 28th 2005, 6:10 pm
#62
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 86
Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
Originally Posted by ironporer
Irony. After our (sucessful) initial DCF interview at the Madrid Embassy we went outside happy as 2 larks. In the post 9-11 world of uber security at all Gov't and especially Immigration functions, we felt we should ask the Spanish Guardia Civil (who guard the outside perimiter) if we could take a picture of the State Dep't Seal on the wall outside the Embassy... to which he responded (with typical Spanish sarcasim- "Of course, out here you are in a Free Country"!!
Viva España
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lol
May 3rd 2005, 11:38 am
#63
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Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
I think there is not enough time for the government. But if they are doing
this then they need to do it for people with extreme suspicion of terrorism.
WHich can be anyone. So there is no telling.
War against terror is fairly hard to pinpoint an individual terrorist.
"USA & Pakistan" <member26954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Heh, I hope they never check my Hotmail account. They'd probably
> > think I'm in desparate need of a loan consolidation, that I like hot
> > teenagers, and that I need "member enhancement". ;)
> >
> > On a side note, though, does anyone know if someone has refused? What
> > have the consequences been?
> >
> > The easy way out, of course, is to lie and say you don't have webmail.
> > But I see this just like any of the intimidation tactics used by law
> > enforcement. I still love to watch "Cops" when the officer asks the
> > stoner he just pulled over for a broken tail-light if he can check the
> > trunk. THE STUPID STONER ALWAYS SAYS YES, and then acts surprised and
> > upset when they find drugs in there. Just like people that get bullied
> > into a confession during interrogation. I just don't think people are
> > aware of what their 4th amendment rights are.
> >
> > That said, I'm not sure how much the 4th amendment helps out foreign
> > citizens who I suppose are technically not on American soil yet.
> > Still, if these people are voluntarily logging in, there's not much
> > they can really complain about. It still sucks, though :(
> Ha! Ha! Good One!
> I am surprised that the agents even bother to ask permission. Doesnt
> the "Patriot Act" give them all the permission they need to do anything
> they want?
> "Government agents now have access to any person's business or personal
> records. These include library records, book-buying habits, medical,
> marital counseling or psychiatric files, business records, Internet
> habits, and credit reports." (website quote)
> Here is a site about phase 2 of the patriot act:
> http://www.alternet.org/story/15541
> Marnee
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
this then they need to do it for people with extreme suspicion of terrorism.
WHich can be anyone. So there is no telling.
War against terror is fairly hard to pinpoint an individual terrorist.
"USA & Pakistan" <member26954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Heh, I hope they never check my Hotmail account. They'd probably
> > think I'm in desparate need of a loan consolidation, that I like hot
> > teenagers, and that I need "member enhancement". ;)
> >
> > On a side note, though, does anyone know if someone has refused? What
> > have the consequences been?
> >
> > The easy way out, of course, is to lie and say you don't have webmail.
> > But I see this just like any of the intimidation tactics used by law
> > enforcement. I still love to watch "Cops" when the officer asks the
> > stoner he just pulled over for a broken tail-light if he can check the
> > trunk. THE STUPID STONER ALWAYS SAYS YES, and then acts surprised and
> > upset when they find drugs in there. Just like people that get bullied
> > into a confession during interrogation. I just don't think people are
> > aware of what their 4th amendment rights are.
> >
> > That said, I'm not sure how much the 4th amendment helps out foreign
> > citizens who I suppose are technically not on American soil yet.
> > Still, if these people are voluntarily logging in, there's not much
> > they can really complain about. It still sucks, though :(
> Ha! Ha! Good One!
> I am surprised that the agents even bother to ask permission. Doesnt
> the "Patriot Act" give them all the permission they need to do anything
> they want?
> "Government agents now have access to any person's business or personal
> records. These include library records, book-buying habits, medical,
> marital counseling or psychiatric files, business records, Internet
> habits, and credit reports." (website quote)
> Here is a site about phase 2 of the patriot act:
> http://www.alternet.org/story/15541
> Marnee
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
May 3rd 2005, 12:30 pm
#64
Mrs. Yank
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 352
Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
Originally Posted by Noorah101
Or, like my husband, is totally computer illiterate and has never had an email address at all.
Rene
Rene
May 3rd 2005, 12:49 pm
#65
Mrs. Yank
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 352
Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
Originally Posted by Andrew DeFaria
All the more reason to get a bona fide digital signature and encrypt
your email. I have a digital signature myself (they are free
@thwarte.com, a little complicated to set up though) and can exchange
encrypted email with anybody else that has a digital signature.
It's funny but all y'all complain, ooh and ah about conspiracies and
government prying yet the tools exist to encrypt your communications and
I know precious few people who use them. One cannot encrypt an email to
another unless that other has a digital signature and you have exchanged
public keys (which can easily be done by any sophisticated email program
with relative ease). I had, through much prodding, gotten a fellow
worker of mine to obtain a digital signature, exchange public passwords
and prove that encrypted email does actually work. What I'm saying is
that you all moan about privacy yet take no steps to protect yourselves!
your email. I have a digital signature myself (they are free
@thwarte.com, a little complicated to set up though) and can exchange
encrypted email with anybody else that has a digital signature.
It's funny but all y'all complain, ooh and ah about conspiracies and
government prying yet the tools exist to encrypt your communications and
I know precious few people who use them. One cannot encrypt an email to
another unless that other has a digital signature and you have exchanged
public keys (which can easily be done by any sophisticated email program
with relative ease). I had, through much prodding, gotten a fellow
worker of mine to obtain a digital signature, exchange public passwords
and prove that encrypted email does actually work. What I'm saying is
that you all moan about privacy yet take no steps to protect yourselves!
May 3rd 2005, 1:05 pm
#66
Mrs. Yank
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 352
Re: Gov't snoop e-mail
Originally Posted by Bob
well it was one of those liberal european countries, probably holland then *lol*
*LOL*
