frauded in a fraud marriage

Old Jul 26th 2004, 11:24 am
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I am very disappointed with every single response.

This part of the forum seems to be haunted by a blood thirsty gang of americans ( and wanna-be's who are about to become a part of them).
I am referring to a specific subset of the populace of course.
Realising that it is an absolute waste of my precious time to argue with an innumerable number of morons, I give up.

Feel free to post as many insults/tirades/righteous indignation stuff/ outrageousness/ shock/ rants and raves/ threats/ your racial slurs/ and anything else that escapes my mind at the moment and which I have forgotten to pen down.
And yeah please do take this opportunity to not miss out on trying to degrade Thailand, my country.
Hey maybe you can help get this thread into guiness for being the longest running one!

America needs to flush people like you down the toilet, if it has to retain its natural splendor and glory, which you do not deserve

3 cheers to souls like Michael Moore who try to make you aware of your hypocritic self.

I will not reply.

ta ta

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Old Jul 26th 2004, 12:48 pm
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where you from originally?
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 1:02 pm
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Originally posted by manc1976
where you from originally?

Dave is in Fantasyland, a/k/a a library in Washington State
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 1:19 pm
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>sure that I never return to the States. and I really dont expect
>anything less mean or spiteful from someone like her suffering from
>being bipolar.

From where I see it, you have a few things to think about:

1. You need the lawyer so you need to figure out how to pay for it.
2. From where a lot of folks stand, you DID enter into a marriage fraudulently for immigration purposes. How the relationship ended is irrelevant to that. You signed the papers, and in doing so basically affirmed what happened.
3. Her being bipolar is not going to be any kind of 'defense' for you. Her being bipolar may explain some things, but the way you phrase it you'd think that anyone who is bipolar is mean and spiteful. That is simply ignorant. It won't work, because 1) a lot of people know better and 2) you DID enter into a marriage fraudulently.
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 1:41 pm
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:48:00 +0000, manc1976
<[email protected]_expats.com> wrote:

    >where you from originally?

Obviously not from Yorkshire. Otherwise he would have just shagged
her to keep her quiet..
 
Old Jul 26th 2004, 1:57 pm
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Thats a truly wonderful story ..which a lot of men can relate too..its not easy for men to perform sexually just like that..In my own case I have these young girls, famous actress's and super model calling me constantly because they feel compelled to use my body for their own sexual gratification....oops!! there the alarm clock going off, better wake up now...
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 3:01 pm
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hello_there wrote:

    > This might be one of the weirdest stories that you may hear. I havent
    > come across a similar case, so I would like to ask for advice.
    > Maybe
    > writing as a sequence of steps would be best:
    > 1. I was in the US on an
    > F-1 for studies
    > 2. I finished most of my degree and jumped to an H1-B
    > and started working
    > 3. I got laid off
    > 4. I apply for a change of status
    > back to an F-1
    > 5. The INS rejects the application citing the reason that
    > I filed for the status change after I was laid off.
    > 6. Within 6 months
    > after rejection, I was about to leave.
    > 7. I really did not want to
    > leave, so I spread the word that I would like someone to help me by
    > getting married. Before any of you get disgusted with that thought, my
    > situation in my home country was bad enough to make me want to stay.
    > 8.
    > A lot of my friends consider doing it for me, but they finally cannot
    > for their own reasons.
    > 9. I am about to give up and prepare to leave at
    > the end of 6 months from the above denial of change of status.
    > 10. A
    > girl pops up out of nowhere, someone from one of the classes we took
    > together. I tell her my story like I am telling everyone.
    > 11. She
    > sympathizes with me and says out of the blue that she would like to help
    > me out.
    > 12. I blink my eyes thrice and I do not pause to wonder why she
    > would want to do it. I make it absolutely clear that the marriage is
    > exactly for what it is...which is so I could stay on in the States.
    > 13.
    > We get married. I go about finishing up with my school, and everything
    > seems to be ok. We are living like roomates.
    > 14. Soon, she starts
    > complaining that I am not hanging out with her, and that I am not
    > spending a lot of time with her.
    > 15. And she explicitly warns me that
    > if I "did not improve on making time for her", she might have to rethink
    > on what she did.
    > 16. Over the next couple of weeks, she makes a lot of
    > sexual overtures and I pretend to ignore the fact that she wants me in
    > bed.
    > 17. And one fine day, she says this is it, its over. I do not
    > understand what or why, she later admits to another friend that she
    > really liked me from the very start (she had sort of known me for a year
    > or so from behind the scenes...call her a silent admirer)
    > And that she
    > secretly hoped that the marriage would actually turn into something real
    > after some time. And when she saw that this would never happen, she
    > called it quits.
    > 18. I did find out in the meantime that she was
    > bipolar...and that explained a lot of things.
    > 19. We were preparing to
    > file my papers with the INS, I hired a lawyer to prepare them. But that
    > was cancelled when we parted. Note, that the INS was never in the
    > picture or involved in any way.
    > 20. I move out, she files for an
    > annulment in court citing fraud as the reason. I was the naiive fool
    > and I did not even panick. She assured me that this was the only way to
    > go.
    > And like a fool, I agreed and filed a response agreeing that it was
    > fraud.
    > 21. I stay on for another 3 months in the US, I meet someone and
    > fall in love for real. but I leave, because I dont want to be there
    > illegally.
    > 22. A year zips by, and you know how court things go so
    > slowly. A paper pops up in the mail alleging that the fraud cited was
    > that " I was consistently pushing her to sign immigration papers". You
    > must understand that she was pissed off that things did not go her way
    > and she realised I would never be hers. I think she is trying to make
    > sure that I never return to the States. and I really dont expect
    > anything less mean or spiteful from someone like her suffering from
    > being bipolar.
    > 23 There is no way I could ever afford to hire a lawyer
    > for myself. And while I was worrying about how I would respond plus the
    > postal delay for the notices to reach me, the nullity was granted a few
    > weeks ago. I assume that the reason mentioned above would go on record,
    > since I never appeared to contest.
    > 24. And thus there are 2 things that
    > could become part of my record:
    > The annulment with a reason cited as
    > immigration fraud ; and then the fact that I stayed after that denial of
    > status for a little bit under a year.
    > 25. I have contacted a lawyer and
    > he is willing to open the case up for me. Please note I still stick to
    > my reason for seperating that she was bipolar. If I told my entire story
    > above in court, no one would believe me. And it would always be my word
    > against hers. It stands to reason, that she will never admit that she
    > was equally guilty of getting into the marriage as I was.
    > So I would
    > like to have you voice your thoughts....should I reopen the nullity
    > judgement and try my tact of arguing that the fraud was about her being
    > bipolar. I have no idea if all the evidence is overwhelmingly against
    > me?
    > The lawyer wants a retainer of over $2000. That is no ordinary sum
    > for me at the moment.
    > I would like to return to my love who waits for
    > me in the US someday. And if this will never happen because of the
    > above, we seek to migrate to a third country to live our dreams. Again,
    > I have no idea if the above will come to haunt me in case I apply for
    > immigration elsewhere other than the US.
    > Wow, that was long....thank
    > you for taking the time to read through.
    > Have a good day!
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 3:28 pm
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Originally posted by manc1976
where you from originally?
You still have not answered this question!
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 3:59 pm
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Originally posted by hello_there
Quote: ray6 ---"You still have not answered this question!"
Sorry I cant answer where I come from, simply because my story
You can't say what country you are from!!! your a phoney...
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 4:02 pm
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Originally posted by hello_there
Quote: ray6 ---"You still have not answered this question!"

Sorry I cant answer where I come from, simply because my story is for real.
Just curious what these 2 things have to do with each other. OK, so your story is real, fine. Why can't you say where you come from? It's as simple as saying the name of a country....
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 4:06 pm
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Originally posted by hello_there
And excuse me, what's a troll? I do not use message boards, neither am I a chat/message board junkie; and so I am not familiar with that lingo, sorry.
You need to remember your etiquette, explain it to me politely, and I will stuff an appropriate reply, right back up your ass.
If you don't even know what a "troll" is, how is it you are taking offense?
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 4:18 pm
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Well, seeing as he wants advice for breaking the law and how to commit perjury, if we respond to his posts with real advice, doesn't that make us accessories?

Plus, unless you're a hacker as well, USCIS can track down who you are with the cooperation of bristishexpats.com, which they will probably give. And, since you probably already know that, I tend to think this may not be real.

I'm leaning troll, but he did write an awful lot, and he used correct grammar and spelling. So, I guess I'll have to stay neutral on that point. Regardless, no help for you!

(And BTW, if you think I'm a hypocrite based on my posts in the other thread, remember, that lady didn't seem to mean it, and this guy blatently wants to commit fraud )
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 4:22 pm
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Originally posted by hello_there
Do you think, I will get my answers, if I tell you where I come from? Alright, its Thailand.
Here's your answer... you are full of bullshit and a born liar...
you must learn when you are trolling like this never to use slang words ..they trace back to a particular country or parts..

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Old Jul 26th 2004, 4:58 pm
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Originally posted by hello_there
12. I blink my eyes thrice and I do not pause to wonder why she would want to do it.
Blink your eyes thrice?
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 5:27 pm
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I did not do anything wrong
Really? I thought you just did immigration fraud...

Sorry that we're so appalling in America. Go back to Thailand.
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