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hey guys. i have a friend who's wondering if applying for food stamps will affect her application for a permanent green card (she's currently on conditional status). what do you think?

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hey guys. i have a friend who's wondering if applying for food stamps will affect her application for a permanent green card (she's currently on conditional status). what do you think?
Isn't that means tested? I thought the means tested one's were the ones that had to be repaid by the sponsor....I could be wrong in that again.
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hey guys. i have a friend who's wondering if applying for food stamps will affect her application for a permanent green card (she's currently on conditional status). what do you think?
Is her marriage bona fide? Where is the sponsor?
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Is her marriage bona fide? Where is the sponsor?
she and the sponsor (her husband) are both, unfortunately, unemployed.
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Isn't that means tested? I thought the means tested one's were the ones that had to be repaid by the sponsor....I could be wrong in that again.
i really dont know, that's what im trying to find out...
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i really dont know, that's what im trying to find out...
I believe food stamps are one of the things the alien won't be eligible for. The USC might still be eligible, I'm not sure. This is one of the reasons the alien has a sponsor, so that there will be someone to "support" him/her if it gets to that point. It is still the responsibility of the person who completed and signed the I-864 to come up with a way to be financial responsible for him.

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I believe food stamps are one of the things the alien won't be eligible for. The USC might still be eligible, I'm not sure. This is one of the reasons the alien has a sponsor, so that there will be someone to "support" him/her if it gets to that point. It is still the responsibility of the person who completed and signed the I-864 to come up with a way to be financial responsible for him.

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thanks Rene. I'm trying to find out if she or her husband will get in trouble in any way if she applied for food stamps. thanks for your reply...
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thanks Rene. I'm trying to find out if she or her husband will get in trouble in any way if she applied for food stamps. thanks for your reply...
OK, I looked up the information.

The sponsor and alien are both able to collect food stamps if the sponsor qualifies for food stamps. No liability to repay the means-tested benefits are required while the sponsor is collecting food stamps.

"Final regulations published by FNS on November 21, 2000 (65 FR 70169) clarified that a
State agency cannot request reimbursement from the sponsor during any period of time
that the sponsor receives food stamps. If a sponsor subsequently stops receiving food
stamps, the sponsor is still not liable for benefits issued to the sponsored immigrant
during the period of time the sponsor received food stamps."

You can read all about it here: http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/rules/Le...n_Guidance.pdf

As for removing conditions, I think the only standard is that the marriage was entered into in good faith. I don't think financial considerations come into it.

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thanks Rene. I'm trying to find out if she or her husband will get in trouble in any way if she applied for food stamps. thanks for your reply...
I don't think the USC will get in trouble for applying for food stamps. It's the alien that is not allowed to apply. At least, that's my take on it.

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OK, I looked up the information.

The sponsor and alien are both able to collect food stamps if the sponsor qualifies for food stamps. No liability to repay the means-tested benefits are required while the sponsor is collecting food stamps.

You can read all about it here: http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/rules/Le...n_Guidance.pdf

As for removing conditions, I think the only standard is that the marriage was entered into in good faith. I don't think financial considerations come into it.
Interesting! So what is it that the alien cannot apply for, and thus needed the I-864 for?
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Interesting! So what is it that the alien cannot apply for, and thus needed the I-864 for?
HI

My husband applied for food stamps late last year when he was unemployed...the fact that I was an alien had nothing to do with the fact that my hubby applied...if it is a USC applying...all they take into account is the size of the household and everyones ssn#'s and their status...at the time I wasn't in a legal status...so I didn't exisit...at least on the books...so they just counted him and our son

I think it is the case that the alien cannot be the one applying...but if they are the dependant of a USC who applys then it is a different matter, as they aren't the one applying they are just classed as a dependant.
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Interesting! So what is it that the alien cannot apply for, and thus needed the I-864 for?
The I-864 states the following. It doesn't say the alien can't apply for means-tested benefits. It says that the sponsor must repay the government for them.

"By signing this form, you, the sponsor, agree to support the intending
immigrant and any spouse and/or children immigrating with him
or her and to reimburse any government agency or private
entity that provides these sponsored immigrants with Federal,
State, or local means-tested public benefits."
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The I-864 states the following. It doesn't say the alien can't apply for means-tested benefits. It says that the sponsor must repay the government for them.

"By signing this form, you, the sponsor, agree to support the intending
immigrant and any spouse and/or children immigrating with him
or her and to reimburse any government agency or private
entity that provides these sponsored immigrants with Federal,
State, or local means-tested public benefits."
Aha, got it. Thanks.
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Noorah101 wrote:

    >> i really dont know, that's what im trying to find out...
    > I believe food stamps are one of the things the alien won't be
    > eligible for. The USC might still be eligible, I'm not sure. This is
    > one of the reasons the alien has a sponsor, so that there will be
    > someone to "support" him/her if it gets to that point. It is still the
    > responsibility of the person who completed and signed the I-864 to
    > come up with a way to be financial responsible for him.

It may be and it probably was all well intentioned. However what happens
if the sponsor loses employment as seems to be the case here. Can't the
husband apply for the food stamps?
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The sponsor and alien are both able to collect food stamps if the sponsor qualifies for food stamps. No liability to repay the means-tested benefits are required while the sponsor is collecting food stamps.
thanks S... so there's liability only if the sponsor doesn't qualify to collect food stamps?
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