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Old Mar 16th 2016, 11:26 pm
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Hi,

Recently me and my wife came to Toronto, Canada for a family function and since our previous was expired we had to go to the US Consulate for the stamping. But the consular denied the visa based on the Section 214(b) which states that the visa is being denied since we were not able to show enough evidence that we will leave United States after our visa will expire.

We were actually not asked enough questions to show the ties back home otherwise we would have shown property assets, FDs and bank statements. But what's done is done and our visa was denied.

Now we are planning to apply again and our dilemma is should we go to Australia or apply again in Canada?

If we go to Australian consulate then then will be a question from the Consular that am I coming to Australia for the stamping just because my visa was denied.

Please guide us.

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... since our previous was expired we had to go to the US Consulate for the stamping.
Where are you right now? What have you told your E-3 sponsor? Why didn't you renew before you left the US?


Now we are planning to apply again and our dilemma is should we go to Australia or apply again in Canada?
All things considered... if it was me, I'd go to Australia. Regardless, you are obligated to disclose the prior visa denial.


If we go to Australian consulate then then will be a question from the Consular that am I coming to Australia for the stamping just because my visa was denied.
The Consular Officer may very well ask that question. If he does, give him an honest answer.

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Thanks for quick reply Ian.

We are currently in Canada and we came here for just a family function. We have told the same thing to the E-3 sponsor and he is in the process of providing more documents.

The E-3 was renewed within US and is valid until Aug, 2016. Since to re-enter we need a valid visa that's why we went to US Consulate. We were not expecting stamping anything beyond Aug, 2016.

My wife doesn't have Aus visa and if I go to Aus then she would have to go to India for the renewal.

I have strong ties to India in terms of property and family (parents and in-laws). In Australia I am still in process of buying a property. The offer has been accepted and in terms of ties with the family just my uncle and cousins.
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What ties did show originally?
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OP's version of events simply does not tie together. Why did he need a new visa? On the facts as described, it appears to me that he didn't need a new visa.

Who was his lawyer and what advice was given?

Curious minds wonder.
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OP's version of events simply does not tie together. Why did he need a new visa? On the facts as described, it appears to me that he didn't need a new visa.
I wondered about this also. My understanding (which could very well be incorrect) is that his visa expired, but he renewed his status within the US... but was then land locked. Once he left the US, wouldn't he have needed a new visa to re-enter?

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I wondered about this also. My understanding (which could very well be incorrect) is that his visa expired, but he renewed his status within the US... but was then land locked. Once he left the US, wouldn't he have needed a new visa to re-enter?

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Could have revalidated it.
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Could have revalidated it.
Perhaps that's what he should have done. Instead, it seems that he applied for a new visa.

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Could have revalidated it.
Is there any reason that re-validation wouldn't work now? ie, does having the refusal impact the ability to do that?

(I'm presuming they didn't cancel the old visa)
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They have been refused a visa.
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Hey there everyone,

thanks to all of those who showed interest and provided feedback.advise.

Based on the forum and discussing the scenario with my company's lawyer I came to US Consulate in Perth, Australia. Over here they have told me that it's pending for Administrative Processing and will let me know once they have made a decision. They took LCA, Original Offer Letter, Continuity of Employment, Copy of my Australian Masters Degree but they gave me back my passport.

Any idea how long this Admin process will take? I asked the consular and he said it could be 30 days, could be less could be more. But no definite time period.
Also in this time period is it safe to travel outside Australia? Can they hold my processing if I'm outside of Australia?

Any idea what happens during Admin processing?
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Seems a fair comment, travelling is just likely to delay matters, more to check.
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Also in this time period is it safe to travel outside Australia?
Travel will likely delay you getting the visa, because they'll then have to check your travel history between now and then.


Can they hold my processing if I'm outside of Australia?
They probably can, but they won't.


Any idea what happens during Admin processing?
Mostly, they're checking to confirm that you are who you say you are. Unless you've done something really stupid, it's a fairly straight-forward process - although, after events today in Brussels, they're likely to be even more cautious.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
I wondered about this also. My understanding (which could very well be incorrect) is that his visa expired, but he renewed his status within the US... but was then land locked. Once he left the US, wouldn't he have needed a new visa to re-enter?

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On the "landlocked" comment -- as described, OP was NOT "landlocked" by a departure to Canada for less than 30 days. The State Department Regulations provide that an extension of status and a change of status modify the underlying visa for such a trip. That said, once he applied for a new visa, he lost that privilege.
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Old Mar 22nd 2016, 5:00 pm
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Default Re: E3 visa refused per Section 214(b)

So if they take about 2-3 mons then should I stay in Australia and then wait for their result?
Because I don't have much here and probably won't be able to stay that long. Maybe 2-3 weeks max.
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