Dual citizenship...pros-cons?
Apr 4th 2002, 12:35 am
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Dual citizenship...pros-cons?
My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she wants to have
dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons of this? I don't
think she really knows the difference....thanks.
dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons of this? I don't
think she really knows the difference....thanks.
Apr 4th 2002, 5:05 am
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Re: Dual citizenship...pros-cons?
From what I've seen posted here before you have to renounce your previous citizenship
when you become a US citizen. However the UK does not recognise this renunciation
hence you retain the UK citizenship as well.
I may be wrong and if I am someone more knowledgeable will put me right.
Personally it wouldn't bother me much to lose my UK citizenship. I love it here and
the country that I served and fought for exists in name only now.
"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
when you become a US citizen. However the UK does not recognise this renunciation
hence you retain the UK citizenship as well.
I may be wrong and if I am someone more knowledgeable will put me right.
Personally it wouldn't bother me much to lose my UK citizenship. I love it here and
the country that I served and fought for exists in name only now.
"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
Apr 4th 2002, 6:35 am
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Here's the best site for information on dual citizenship
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/ Take Care. Shelley
"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/ Take Care. Shelley
"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
Apr 4th 2002, 11:35 am
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"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
Pros are pretty obvious - you can choose to live and work in either the EC or the US,
you won't be denied entry to either country, you won't get deported, you can vote,
you'll get proper tax benefits on death of a spouse, etc. Cons? The only one I can
think of is that as a US citizen you will always have to file a US tax return even if
you are living abroad.
Andy.
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
Pros are pretty obvious - you can choose to live and work in either the EC or the US,
you won't be denied entry to either country, you won't get deported, you can vote,
you'll get proper tax benefits on death of a spouse, etc. Cons? The only one I can
think of is that as a US citizen you will always have to file a US tax return even if
you are living abroad.
Andy.
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I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Apr 4th 2002, 1:05 pm
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Uh.....don't several countries allow dual citizenships for children born to a
marriage if one parent is citizen of the US, and the other is say for example,
citizen of the UK? So this isn't really a pro for becoming a US citizen.
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Lisa www.britsintheus.com/marriednhappy/timeline-aos.htm "Stephen Gallagher"
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> Depending on the laws of the countries in question, your children may receive, or
> be entitled to receive, both citizenships.
marriage if one parent is citizen of the US, and the other is say for example,
citizen of the UK? So this isn't really a pro for becoming a US citizen.
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> [email protected] (QWIKHOG) wrote in message
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> Depending on the laws of the countries in question, your children may receive, or
> be entitled to receive, both citizenships.
Apr 4th 2002, 2:05 pm
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"Fishy Baby" <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you have a US passport, and you're supposed to use it for entry and departure to
> the US, I don't know what will happen when I leave the US on a US passport and
> enter England with my Brit passport (which doesn't get any sort of
entry
> stamp in it when entering).
There are no issues with that.
Andy.
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> If you have a US passport, and you're supposed to use it for entry and departure to
> the US, I don't know what will happen when I leave the US on a US passport and
> enter England with my Brit passport (which doesn't get any sort of
entry
> stamp in it when entering).
There are no issues with that.
Andy.
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Apr 4th 2002, 2:40 pm
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Re: Dual citizenship...pros-cons?
You forgot one important Con, once you obtain US Citizenship you don't get to deal with the nice, friendly INS employees, filling out their wonderful forms and yelling at them for being incompetent and unorganized. Doesn't everyone enjoy getting up at 4am to drive to their local INS office just to wait in line for 3 hours? Come on people!
Apr 4th 2002, 6:05 pm
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"QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
It only has pro's in my opinion, providing you can legally keep two citizenships.
The biggest advantage is that if you decide to move from the UK to the US after she
has the dual citizenship, and you decide to return to the UK a few years later you
will not have to go through the hassle of immigration again but you can just hop on a
plane and be there.
Further, it makes settlement in other area's of the European Union a lot easier. For
instance, if a company somewhere in Europe wants to hire a foreigner, European Union
passport holders have to be considered first.
Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries either way,
but it helps. It helps if you want to visit Middle East countries. I know stories
from a friend that visited Jordan with a few friends, anf he was the only one with a
U.S. passport. Guess who was always interrogated the most at border and police
checkpoints. And guess who of the four had his luggage turned upside down. And yes 2
of the four were Brits and not hassled at all. The third one was Dutch.
I think it is very good to have 2 passports, especially if they are U.S. and European
Union based. Just make sure you can do it all legally without losing a citizenship
Maarten
news:[email protected]...
> My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
wants to
> have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
of
> this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
It only has pro's in my opinion, providing you can legally keep two citizenships.
The biggest advantage is that if you decide to move from the UK to the US after she
has the dual citizenship, and you decide to return to the UK a few years later you
will not have to go through the hassle of immigration again but you can just hop on a
plane and be there.
Further, it makes settlement in other area's of the European Union a lot easier. For
instance, if a company somewhere in Europe wants to hire a foreigner, European Union
passport holders have to be considered first.
Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries either way,
but it helps. It helps if you want to visit Middle East countries. I know stories
from a friend that visited Jordan with a few friends, anf he was the only one with a
U.S. passport. Guess who was always interrogated the most at border and police
checkpoints. And guess who of the four had his luggage turned upside down. And yes 2
of the four were Brits and not hassled at all. The third one was Dutch.
I think it is very good to have 2 passports, especially if they are U.S. and European
Union based. Just make sure you can do it all legally without losing a citizenship
Maarten
Apr 4th 2002, 8:35 pm
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Does anyone know whether Germany allows dual citizenship if you become naturalized
in the US?
- Des
in the US?
- Des
Apr 4th 2002, 10:36 pm
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Andy Platt wrote:
> "QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
> wants to
> > have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
> of
> > this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
>
> Pros are pretty obvious - you can choose to live and work in either the EC or the
> US, you won't be denied entry to either country, you won't get deported, you can
> vote, you'll get proper tax benefits on death of a spouse, etc. Cons? The only one
> I can think of is that as a US citizen you will always have to file a US tax return
> even if you are living abroad.
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Hi All!
In my opinion there should be no such thing. You decide to live here you either
become a citizen or go back. No AP either, you leave before you become a citizen, you
start all over. Stop people from coming here just for monetary gain. You come here
because you want to live here, not just work here.
Take care,
Mike
> "QWIKHOG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > My fiancee says once everything is said and done with immigration, she
> wants to
> > have dual citizenship(US & UK). Can anyone tell me the pros and/or cons
> of
> > this? I don't think she really knows the difference....thanks.
>
> Pros are pretty obvious - you can choose to live and work in either the EC or the
> US, you won't be denied entry to either country, you won't get deported, you can
> vote, you'll get proper tax benefits on death of a spouse, etc. Cons? The only one
> I can think of is that as a US citizen you will always have to file a US tax return
> even if you are living abroad.
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Hi All!
In my opinion there should be no such thing. You decide to live here you either
become a citizen or go back. No AP either, you leave before you become a citizen, you
start all over. Stop people from coming here just for monetary gain. You come here
because you want to live here, not just work here.
Take care,
Mike
Apr 4th 2002, 11:35 pm
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Lol. That's the reason I have opted for citizenship. No more INS. Ranjini
"timiny74" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You forgot one important Con, once you obtain US Citizenship you don't get to deal
> with the nice, friendly INS employees, filling out their wonderful forms and
> yelling at them for being incompetent and unorganized. Doesn't everyone enjoy
> getting up at 4am to drive to their local INS office just to wait in line for 3
> hours? Come on people!
>
>
>
> --
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"timiny74" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You forgot one important Con, once you obtain US Citizenship you don't get to deal
> with the nice, friendly INS employees, filling out their wonderful forms and
> yelling at them for being incompetent and unorganized. Doesn't everyone enjoy
> getting up at 4am to drive to their local INS office just to wait in line for 3
> hours? Come on people!
>
>
>
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Apr 5th 2002, 6:35 am
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"Maarten W.G. Andriessen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
> American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries either
> way, but it helps.
<snip>
Even if you are a dual citizen, if US citizens are banned from travel to a specific
location, you cannot use your other passport to travel there because you are
violating US law. EX: My husband is Canadian - he can travel to Cuba, I cannot. If he
becomes a USC he will be a dual citizen, but he will no longer be able to go to Cuba,
even if he used his Canadian passport. I guess a better way of saying it is that he
could go there with his Canadian passport, but he would be violating US law and
subject to the same penalties as all US citizens. Take Care. Shelley
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> Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
> American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries either
> way, but it helps.
<snip>
Even if you are a dual citizen, if US citizens are banned from travel to a specific
location, you cannot use your other passport to travel there because you are
violating US law. EX: My husband is Canadian - he can travel to Cuba, I cannot. If he
becomes a USC he will be a dual citizen, but he will no longer be able to go to Cuba,
even if he used his Canadian passport. I guess a better way of saying it is that he
could go there with his Canadian passport, but he would be violating US law and
subject to the same penalties as all US citizens. Take Care. Shelley
Apr 5th 2002, 2:35 pm
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(snip)
>
> Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
> American passport.
But that would still be a violation of US law. The US doesn't care if you didn't use
a US passport to get there. From their point of view, you are a US citizen who went
to an area where US citizens are not allowed to travel.
I wonder if that is part of the reason that the restrictions on Cuba are not for
travel to Cuba, but rather on spending money there.
Stephen GAllagher
>
> Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to visit) on a
> American passport.
But that would still be a violation of US law. The US doesn't care if you didn't use
a US passport to get there. From their point of view, you are a US citizen who went
to an area where US citizens are not allowed to travel.
I wonder if that is part of the reason that the restrictions on Cuba are not for
travel to Cuba, but rather on spending money there.
Stephen GAllagher
Apr 5th 2002, 3:05 pm
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What about leaving the US,using your US passport, going to a different country, then
leaving that country and going to Cuba on your non-US passport.
I believe the laws are that you have to leave and enter the US with your US passport.
Is there anything said about other travels overseas?
leaving that country and going to Cuba on your non-US passport.
I believe the laws are that you have to leave and enter the US with your US passport.
Is there anything said about other travels overseas?
Apr 5th 2002, 6:05 pm
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Actually permanent residents of the US are similarly covered by the US hang up on
Cuba laws (which as Stephen points out are restrictions on spending money travelling
to Cuba rather than the actual travel themselves).
Andy.
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> "Maarten W.G. Andriessen" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> > Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to
visit)
> > on a American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries
> > either way, but it helps.
> <snip>
>
> Even if you are a dual citizen, if US citizens are banned from travel to a specific
> location, you cannot use your other passport to travel there because you are
> violating US law. EX: My husband is Canadian - he can travel to Cuba, I cannot. If
> he becomes a USC he will be a dual citizen, but he will no longer be able to
go
> to Cuba, even if he used his Canadian passport. I guess a better way of saying it
> is that he could go there with his Canadian passport, but he
would
> be violating US law and subject to the same penalties as all US citizens. Take
> Care. Shelley
Cuba laws (which as Stephen points out are restrictions on spending money travelling
to Cuba rather than the actual travel themselves).
Andy.
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> "Maarten W.G. Andriessen" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> > Last, there are some countries you cannot visit (or are not wise to
visit)
> > on a American passport. Of course it is dangerous to travel to those countries
> > either way, but it helps.
> <snip>
>
> Even if you are a dual citizen, if US citizens are banned from travel to a specific
> location, you cannot use your other passport to travel there because you are
> violating US law. EX: My husband is Canadian - he can travel to Cuba, I cannot. If
> he becomes a USC he will be a dual citizen, but he will no longer be able to
go
> to Cuba, even if he used his Canadian passport. I guess a better way of saying it
> is that he could go there with his Canadian passport, but he
would
> be violating US law and subject to the same penalties as all US citizens. Take
> Care. Shelley