Dual Citizenship, Naturalization and all that
#16
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- Leave 24+ months - you'll struggle to get back and will probably need lawyers to get involved.
- Leave 13-24 months - you'll need a re-entry permit to get back (see here) or returning resident visa (see here),
- Leave 6-12 months - absence of more than 6 months "resets" the continuous residency clock, which means you'll have to stay in the US a further 5 years before you are eligible to apply for citizenship (despite having been here for 20 years).
- Leave 1-6 months - should not be an issue.
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Re: Dual Citizenship, Naturalization and all that
Beware the returning resident visa. If an LPR (foolishly) ends up outside the US for more than 12 months without a reentry permit, they should definitely seek legal advice. Applying for a returning resident visa could be a very bad move in that situation, despite the friendly language on the State dept website.
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There hasn't been a draft since 1973 and will unlikely be reactivated. However 18-26 year olds should register for the Selective Service in case the draft is reactivated. Although the penalty for not registering can be severe, usually nothing is done (never heard of anyone being charged or prosecuted for not registering). However if they don't register, they likely will not be eligible for federal job training, most federal employment, and student financial assistance.
#20
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There hasn't been a draft since 1973 and will unlikely be reactivated. However 18-26 year olds should register for the Selective Service in case the draft is reactivated. Although the penalty for not registering can be severe, usually nothing is done (never heard of anyone being charged or prosecuted for not registering). However if they don't register, they likely will not be eligible for federal job training, most federal employment, and student financial assistance.
#21
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I think the draft pretty much exists in both countries. It's just not something that's brought to your attention under normal circumstances!
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
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Re: Dual Citizenship, Naturalization and all that
I think the draft pretty much exists in both countries. It's just not something that's brought to your attention under normal circumstances!
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
#23
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Exactly, considering we are in a never ending war on terror, who knows what will come to pass in the future.
As far as leaving the country for extended lengths, would you have to re-apply for a green card or do you get one shot to live here and if you check out then thats your lot?
Having read Bill Bryson’s Notes From A Small Island and I’m A Stranger Here Myself, then A Walk In The Woods it made me think I could in fact return home after 20 years here to give my family a taste of what it is like to live in the UK, just as old Bill does when he returns to the US after 20 years in England.
Is it easier from the ‘other direction’? Or maybe Bill Bryson has dual citizenship. Anyone know?
As far as leaving the country for extended lengths, would you have to re-apply for a green card or do you get one shot to live here and if you check out then thats your lot?
Having read Bill Bryson’s Notes From A Small Island and I’m A Stranger Here Myself, then A Walk In The Woods it made me think I could in fact return home after 20 years here to give my family a taste of what it is like to live in the UK, just as old Bill does when he returns to the US after 20 years in England.
Is it easier from the ‘other direction’? Or maybe Bill Bryson has dual citizenship. Anyone know?
#24
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I think the draft pretty much exists in both countries. It's just not something that's brought to your attention under normal circumstances!
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
As far as taxation is concerned, you will NOT be double-taxed. As a USC, you are required to file taxes in the US if you live and work elsewhere, but if you are taxed in that country, usually, you will not have to pay again.
In answer to your question about 'special procedures' for dual citizens, no, there's no difference. The UK does not recognize your naturalization and you are not renouncing your UK citizenship when you gain USC status. The only time you can lose the British side of things is if you apply to the British government specifically and renounce.
The only time anyone would need to renounce UK citizenship would be for certain 'sensitive' federal jobs. I think for the most part, you would have to renounce for a military appointment, for example.
#25
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Boris Johnson is still a US citizen. As of 2010 Bill Bryson is too pussy to take the Life in the UK test.
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Boris publicly asserts different: http://www.boris-johnson.com/2006/08...ican-passport/
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A former PM had an American born mother and under the proper constitutional interpretation of the US law in effect at the time, he was a US citizen at birth. However, he never claimed it. In fact, he addressed the US Congress and declaimed any citizenship, otherwise he would have been a US Congressman.
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Re: Dual Citizenship, Naturalization and all that
A former PM had an American born mother and under the proper constitutional interpretation of the US law in effect at the time, he was a US citizen at birth. However, he never claimed it. In fact, he addressed the US Congress and declaimed any citizenship, otherwise he would have been a US Congressman.
#29
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Boris publicly asserts different: http://www.boris-johnson.com/2006/08...ican-passport/
A former PM had an American born mother and under the proper constitutional interpretation of the US law in effect at the time, he was a US citizen at birth. However, he never claimed it. In fact, he addressed the US Congress and declaimed any citizenship, otherwise he would have been a US Congressman.
#30
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Interesting, he did rather make a big show of relinquishing it (or at least made it look that way). Do you have a citation that he kept it?