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Old May 17th 2003, 3:53 pm
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Tamara
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Hi,
I have a few questions about the diversity visa b/c my dad has
received a letter saying he's eligible for further processing.
1- he has to include his wife (my mom) and his children under 21 (my
brother and sister), my sister goes to school in the US, where should
he say he wants his visa to be processed, i assumed in our country of
nationality and perhaps my sister should go there for the interview.
is this correct? or should he say the US (is it possible though?)?
and then they could come here for the interview?
2- there is a question that asks: what kind of job will you be
performing in the US? he's not sure, he is doing property business
right now in our home country, should he put that still for what he's
going to do in the US, or can he say he's not sure or shouldhe put
N/A? he says his whole purpose of immigrating is so to be close to us
(my sister and I), he's not necessarily looking to work. could he say
he wants to keep his business back home until he settles in the US?
3- at the end it asks if anyone assisted him in filling out the forms,
well i am assiting him but it's only because i like to fill out forms,
he is fully capable of doing that on his own, so will it look bad if
he put assisted by daughter?

thank you for your help.

t.
 
Old May 17th 2003, 4:00 pm
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Ingo Pakleppa
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On Sat, 17 May 2003 20:53:01 -0700, Tamara wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I have a few questions about the diversity visa b/c my dad has
    > received a letter saying he's eligible for further processing.
    > 1- he has to include his wife (my mom) and his children under 21 (my
    > brother and sister), my sister goes to school in the US, where should
    > he say he wants his visa to be processed, i assumed in our country of
    > nationality and perhaps my sister should go there for the interview.
    > is this correct? or should he say the US (is it possible though?)?
    > and then they could come here for the interview?

It is possible for your sister to be adjudicated in the US, but is usually
a very bad idea. The problem is that processing absolutely must be
completed by September 30, and many BCIS offices are just too slow and
don't care enough to ensure that this happens.

The best way is always to use consular processing.

    > 2- there is a question that asks: what kind of job will you be
    > performing in the US? he's not sure, he is doing property business
    > right now in our home country, should he put that still for what he's
    > going to do in the US, or can he say he's not sure or shouldhe put
    > N/A? he says his whole purpose of immigrating is so to be close to us
    > (my sister and I), he's not necessarily looking to work.

Well, rule number 1 is to be honest. Rule number 2 is that he needs to be
able to show that he will have enough funds to survive. Most people of
course do that by showing that they have plans to work. If he has enough
money to retire, then he can write "retire" in that box.

    > could he say he wants to keep his business back home until he settles in
    > the US?

No. The question is about what job he wants to do AFTER he settles in the
US. Also, running a foreign business makes it more likely that his
immigrant visa would be denied because he needs to intend to live in the
US.

    > 3- at the end it asks if anyone assisted him in filling out the forms,
    > well i am assiting him but it's only because i like to fill out forms,
    > he is fully capable of doing that on his own, so will it look bad if
    > he put assisted by daughter?

That is really only for professionals, such as attorneys, who help. You
can put your name there if you want, but it's not necessary. Either way it
doesn't look bad.

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Old May 18th 2003, 6:15 am
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Tamara
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Now I understand. Thanks for your help. One last question though
that I forgot to ask is about names!

under name, the second box asks to scribe the name in our native
alphabet. We write from right to left, so when he writes his name
should he just write it from right to left and assume that they would
understand which name is first which one is last? Actually, for the
English version they're asking for: family, first name, middle name
(in this sequence specifically) but for the native language they don't
specify blocks for each, what do you think?


Another thing, is that most people their middle names are their
FATHER's names, so for a female for example, should we still do that?
like "Daughter Father Family." Even though now that I think of it I
think it is possible since when I came here and used my dad's name as
my middle name nothing happened.


Also, in our language they tend to make things longer that what they
really are. For example, if your name is ABC DEF XYZ, they'll write
it down as ABC The Son of DEF the XYZ. Is it okay to eliminate those
extra stuff even though they are in the passport? And I mean since
your middle name is yor father's name the list goes on forever and you
have a lot of your grandfathers listed behind your name and finally
they write the family name (and this is true, you should look at one
of our passports!). But I'm assuming we can skip and we should just
put 3 names (first, middle (=fahter), and family). Is this correct or
will it lead to problems later when they see that not all of what's
written in the passport as a name is written on the application?
Because again, I have done that before for myself when I came to the
US and it hasn't given me any problems, but I don't know about the new
rules and regulations.

Again, thank you so much for your help.
T.


"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    > On Sat, 17 May 2003 20:53:01 -0700, Tamara wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > > I have a few questions about the diversity visa b/c my dad has
    > > received a letter saying he's eligible for further processing.
    > > 1- he has to include his wife (my mom) and his children under 21 (my
    > > brother and sister), my sister goes to school in the US, where should
    > > he say he wants his visa to be processed, i assumed in our country of
    > > nationality and perhaps my sister should go there for the interview.
    > > is this correct? or should he say the US (is it possible though?)?
    > > and then they could come here for the interview?
    >
    > It is possible for your sister to be adjudicated in the US, but is usually
    > a very bad idea. The problem is that processing absolutely must be
    > completed by September 30, and many BCIS offices are just too slow and
    > don't care enough to ensure that this happens.
    >
    > The best way is always to use consular processing.
    >
    > > 2- there is a question that asks: what kind of job will you be
    > > performing in the US? he's not sure, he is doing property business
    > > right now in our home country, should he put that still for what he's
    > > going to do in the US, or can he say he's not sure or shouldhe put
    > > N/A? he says his whole purpose of immigrating is so to be close to us
    > > (my sister and I), he's not necessarily looking to work.
    >
    > Well, rule number 1 is to be honest. Rule number 2 is that he needs to be
    > able to show that he will have enough funds to survive. Most people of
    > course do that by showing that they have plans to work. If he has enough
    > money to retire, then he can write "retire" in that box.
    >
    > > could he say he wants to keep his business back home until he settles in
    > > the US?
    >
    > No. The question is about what job he wants to do AFTER he settles in the
    > US. Also, running a foreign business makes it more likely that his
    > immigrant visa would be denied because he needs to intend to live in the
    > US.
    >
    > > 3- at the end it asks if anyone assisted him in filling out the forms,
    > > well i am assiting him but it's only because i like to fill out forms,
    > > he is fully capable of doing that on his own, so will it look bad if
    > > he put assisted by daughter?
    >
    > That is really only for professionals, such as attorneys, who help. You
    > can put your name there if you want, but it's not necessary. Either way it
    > doesn't look bad.
    >
    > --
    > Remember, I am strictly a layperson without any legal training. I encourage
    > everybody to seek competent legal counsel rather than relying on usenet
    > newsgroups.
    >
    > Please visit my new FAQ at http://www.kkeane.com with a list of interesting
    > immigration links.
    >
    > My email address in usenet posts is now invalid for spam protection.
    >
    > Please feel free to enjoy some of my photographs at my new Web site
    > http://www.ingopakleppa.com ! Comments are welcome.
 
Old May 18th 2003, 9:02 am
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Ingo Pakleppa
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On Sun, 18 May 2003 11:15:28 -0700, Tamara wrote:

    > Now I understand. Thanks for your help. One last question though that
    > I forgot to ask is about names!
    >
    > under name, the second box asks to scribe the name in our native
    > alphabet. We write from right to left, so when he writes his name
    > should he just write it from right to left and assume that they would
    > understand which name is first which one is last?

Yes. Actually, I don't think this field is used for much. The only time it
would be used is if some official needs to verify things like signatures
or foreign documents, or of course your passport, just so he has a sample
of what the name is supposed to look like.

    > Actually, for the English version they're asking for: family, first
    > name, middle name (in this sequence specifically) but for the native
    > language they don't specify blocks for each, what do you think?

Write in whatever order the name would be "naturally" written.

    > Another thing, is that most people their middle names are their FATHER's
    > names, so for a female for example, should we still do that? like
    > "Daughter Father Family." Even though now that I think of it I think it
    > is possible since when I came here and used my dad's name as my middle
    > name nothing happened.

Use whatever the actual legal name is. If your country doesn't have the
concept of a legal name, then use whatever your passport says.

    > Also, in our language they tend to make things longer that what they
    > really are. For example, if your name is ABC DEF XYZ, they'll write it
    > down as ABC The Son of DEF the XYZ. Is it okay to eliminate those extra
    > stuff even though they are in the passport?

See above. I'm not familiar with the customs in your country, so I can't
really tell you. Worst case, you could simply write "see attached" and
attach a separate paper that gives all the various versions of the name in
your native alphabet (I would recommend including English translations of
each version)

This is one case where it doesn't hurt to give too much rather than too
little information.

    > And I mean since your middle name is yor father's name the list goes on
    > forever and you have a lot of your grandfathers listed behind your name
    > and finally they write the family name (and this is true, you should
    > look at one of our passports!).

Yes, there are quite a few "strange" customs in the world (strange
meaning, very different from what we are used to in the US). There are
also some countries that only have first names and don't use last names at
all, yet others don't have middle names, and in some parts of Europe,
first and last names alternated between generations. That's where names
such as "Johnson" came from; it is actually "Son of John" At least in
parts of Germany, if the father was named Peter Peterson, the son would be
named Peterson Peter. And the grandson would be named Peter Peterson
again...

Well, the custom of naming successive generations Senior, Junior, III, IV
and V etc. is pretty common in the US, and just as "strange" if you think
about it...

    > But I'm assuming we can skip and we should just put 3 names (first,
    > middle (=fahter), and family). Is this correct or will it lead to
    > problems later when they see that not all of what's written in the
    > passport as a name is written on the application? Because again, I have
    > done that before for myself when I came to the US and it hasn't given me
    > any problems, but I don't know about the new rules and regulations.

I don't think any rules and regulations come into play here; this kind of
thing probably hasn't changed much. It may well be up to the individual
officer's discretion, though.

    > Again, thank you so much for your help. T.
    >
    >
    > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On Sat, 17 May 2003 20:53:01 -0700, Tamara wrote:
    >>
    >> > Hi,
    >> > I have a few questions about the diversity visa b/c my dad has
    >> > received a letter saying he's eligible for further processing. 1- he
    >> > has to include his wife (my mom) and his children under 21 (my
    >> > brother and sister), my sister goes to school in the US, where should
    >> > he say he wants his visa to be processed, i assumed in our country of
    >> > nationality and perhaps my sister should go there for the interview.
    >> > is this correct? or should he say the US (is it possible though?)?
    >> > and then they could come here for the interview?
    >>
    >> It is possible for your sister to be adjudicated in the US, but is
    >> usually a very bad idea. The problem is that processing absolutely must
    >> be completed by September 30, and many BCIS offices are just too slow
    >> and don't care enough to ensure that this happens.
    >>
    >> The best way is always to use consular processing.
    >>
    >> > 2- there is a question that asks: what kind of job will you be
    >> > performing in the US? he's not sure, he is doing property business
    >> > right now in our home country, should he put that still for what he's
    >> > going to do in the US, or can he say he's not sure or shouldhe put
    >> > N/A? he says his whole purpose of immigrating is so to be close to
    >> > us (my sister and I), he's not necessarily looking to work.
    >>
    >> Well, rule number 1 is to be honest. Rule number 2 is that he needs to
    >> be able to show that he will have enough funds to survive. Most people
    >> of course do that by showing that they have plans to work. If he has
    >> enough money to retire, then he can write "retire" in that box.
    >>
    >> > could he say he wants to keep his business back home until he settles
    >> > in the US?
    >>
    >> No. The question is about what job he wants to do AFTER he settles in
    >> the US. Also, running a foreign business makes it more likely that his
    >> immigrant visa would be denied because he needs to intend to live in
    >> the US.
    >>
    >> > 3- at the end it asks if anyone assisted him in filling out the
    >> > forms, well i am assiting him but it's only because i like to fill
    >> > out forms, he is fully capable of doing that on his own, so will it
    >> > look bad if he put assisted by daughter?
    >>
    >> That is really only for professionals, such as attorneys, who help. You
    >> can put your name there if you want, but it's not necessary. Either way
    >> it doesn't look bad.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Remember, I am strictly a layperson without any legal training. I
    >> encourage everybody to seek competent legal counsel rather than relying
    >> on usenet newsgroups.
    >>
    >> Please visit my new FAQ at http://www.kkeane.com with a list of
    >> interesting immigration links.
    >>
    >> My email address in usenet posts is now invalid for spam protection.
    >>
    >> Please feel free to enjoy some of my photographs at my new Web site
    >> http://www.ingopakleppa.com ! Comments are welcome.

--
Remember, I am strictly a layperson without any legal training. I encourage
everybody to seek competent legal counsel rather than relying on usenet
newsgroups.

Please visit my new FAQ at http://www.kkeane.com with a list of interesting
immigration links.

My email address in usenet posts is now invalid for spam protection.

Please feel free to enjoy some of my photographs at my new Web site
http://www.ingopakleppa.com ! Comments are welcome.
 

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