Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
#61
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
I am with the posters who suggest that this person wait a long time before trying for another visa. They were previously stuffed back on a plane. The information about what the concerns were are available to the consular officer. The visa applications seem too desperate for just a vacation. Wait until firmly established before trying again.
She could apply again tomorrow, but might as well light the money on fire. Same result, and less impact on future attempts.
Last edited by crg; Aug 17th 2018 at 9:51 pm.
#62
Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
Not forgetting that for much of that time I had no UK fixed address ( until I needed one for CR1 process) and was self employed.
One thing I didn't ever feel the need to do was tell the POE those circumstances, might have been a different outcome had they asked though! So whilst it might be preferable to be a two week tourist with a family in tow, a house in the Surrey Green Belt, wads of cash and be the irreplaceable lynchpin at your place of work, none of those things are necessary.
Presumably now that a B visa has been denied the VWP will not be a future option for the OP?
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
All the information is here.
https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/visa-...r-program-vwp/
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
I made half a dozen trips of just under 90 days with just over 90 days in the UK in between those trips, doubt if I ever had that much cash available for all those trips put together. The POE knew that the I was visiting my girlfriend/ wife and although it was never mentioned they must have guessed that my stated address for those trips was residential as opposed to tourist specific. I have been turned away from quite a few places in the past thanks to the fact that I look like a Soho doorman but never had an issue at American customs points (shame the same couldn't be said for their Spanish and German counterparts!!).
Not forgetting that for much of that time I had no UK fixed address ( until I needed one for CR1 process) and was self employed.
One thing I didn't ever feel the need to do was tell the POE those circumstances, might have been a different outcome had they asked though! So whilst it might be preferable to be a two week tourist with a family in tow, a house in the Surrey Green Belt, wads of cash and be the irreplaceable lynchpin at your place of work, none of those things are necessary.
Presumably now that a B visa has been denied the VWP will not be a future option for the OP?
Not forgetting that for much of that time I had no UK fixed address ( until I needed one for CR1 process) and was self employed.
One thing I didn't ever feel the need to do was tell the POE those circumstances, might have been a different outcome had they asked though! So whilst it might be preferable to be a two week tourist with a family in tow, a house in the Surrey Green Belt, wads of cash and be the irreplaceable lynchpin at your place of work, none of those things are necessary.
Presumably now that a B visa has been denied the VWP will not be a future option for the OP?
The opener is never going to get a visa to visit the United States ever again in my opinion. She is just sending good money after bad with further applications she would have stayed in boston forever with these so called friends she has. She never mentioned how she met them has she and it sounds very shady to me. Her postings are very non descriptive. What do her boston mates bring her that english friends and family don't? I am going for a cruise with father TA on QM2 in 4 days I am not worrying about nothing but I don't think i would get a visa if I got turned back being single and not owning my own home and I am older than she is.
Last edited by andyrebell; Aug 18th 2018 at 12:47 pm.
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
A visa denial does not make you ineligible to use the VWP.
All the information is here.
https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/visa-...r-program-vwp/
All the information is here.
https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/visa-...r-program-vwp/
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...ration-benefit
Last edited by zzrmark; Aug 18th 2018 at 3:28 pm. Reason: Aargh, why it not post what I type???
#71
Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
Had you been turned back from one of those trips things would have been different you would have been in her situation.
The opener is never going to get a visa to visit the United States ever again in my opinion. She is just sending good money after bad with further applications she would have stayed in boston forever with these so called friends she has. She never mentioned how she met them has she and it sounds very shady to me. Her postings are very non descriptive. What do her boston mates bring her that english friends and family don't?
The opener is never going to get a visa to visit the United States ever again in my opinion. She is just sending good money after bad with further applications she would have stayed in boston forever with these so called friends she has. She never mentioned how she met them has she and it sounds very shady to me. Her postings are very non descriptive. What do her boston mates bring her that english friends and family don't?
Some of the boats I lived on would make the average property appear to look like a slum dwelling!!
And as several have already pointed out, the OP will have a better chance if she waits a while before reapplying.
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
Just because someone is shy on details does not make them shady. Presumably you immediately assumed that I was one of the ''great unwashed' because I had no fixed address?
Some of the boats I lived on would make the average property appear to look like a slum dwelling!!
And as several have already pointed out, the OP will have a better chance if she waits a while before reapplying.
Some of the boats I lived on would make the average property appear to look like a slum dwelling!!
And as several have already pointed out, the OP will have a better chance if she waits a while before reapplying.
I made that statement based also upon the fact that you say you are self employed ergo having a business you may be able to run from anywhere in the world or do the same business in americaa depending upon what it is and they would know that.
And I made my statement based upon my friend of mine from my NYC days in the mid 00s (I had 18 months. He is english lad who got a girl pregnant did the 90 day in out visa waiver a few times worked when he was in new york worked illegally of course during that time which I don't think they knew. Eventually he got knocked back that was 10 years ago and he has never been able to get a visa since to my knowledge.
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
She may not be shady but the people she is going to meet sound a bit shady to me like a cult or something.
I made that statement based also upon the fact that you say you are self employed ergo having a business you may be able to run from anywhere in the world or do the same business in americaa depending upon what it is and they would know that.
And I made my statement based upon my friend of mine from my NYC days in the mid 00s (I had 18 months. He is english lad who got a girl pregnant did the 90 day in out visa waiver a few times worked when he was in new york worked illegally of course during that time which I don't think they knew. Eventually he got knocked back that was 10 years ago and he has never been able to get a visa since to my knowledge.
I made that statement based also upon the fact that you say you are self employed ergo having a business you may be able to run from anywhere in the world or do the same business in americaa depending upon what it is and they would know that.
And I made my statement based upon my friend of mine from my NYC days in the mid 00s (I had 18 months. He is english lad who got a girl pregnant did the 90 day in out visa waiver a few times worked when he was in new york worked illegally of course during that time which I don't think they knew. Eventually he got knocked back that was 10 years ago and he has never been able to get a visa since to my knowledge.
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
It seems strange to me they give a visa to the other poster who may or may not have come close to grooming a teenager online and persons with criminal records who have been in jail and yet deny a visa in these cases.
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Re: Denial at entrance and subsequent B visa application
Per 22 CFR 41.2
" (2) An alien denied admission under the Visa Waiver Program by virtue of a ground of inadmissibility described in INA section 212(a) that is discovered at the time of the alien's application for admission at a port of entry or through use of an automated electronic database may apply for a visa as the only means of challenging such a determination. "